Jake Coker

[Reign Blood]

BA loves his system...and in the end the guy who knows his system best will be the guy who sticks in most cases. Barkley has the advantage over both Coker and Rivers.... he also has a relationship with the current starter.
I see it as most likely that Barkley starts the season as #3 while Coker starts the season on the PS

I hope you're right. It sure beats Thomas at #3. Thomas had his chance and went thru a camp under BA. Barkley comes in as a pedigree as opposed to a potential starter.

But however you can't help but be a little excited with Coker and Rivers coming in.

 

[Mitch]

Nick Saban on Jake Coker:

“I think Jake has got a lot of upside,” Alabama coach Nick Saban said of Coker during Alabama’s pro day. “Jake only has one year when he really played and was ‘The Man.’ I think one reason Jake didn’t get invited to the combine wasn’t because of Jake. I think it is because there were 97 juniors who came out. I think that’s an issue and a problem we need to address with the NFL because it’s unfair to some of the seniors because all those guys (juniors) get invited and some of them are not ranked as high as some of the seniors who they know more about. But I think Jake is going to do just fine. I think he’s going to need to continue to develop. He’s got a great arm and can make all the throws. For his size, he is very athletic, and I think a lot of people are going to like that.”

 

[cardfaninfl]

In one of the Youtube highlight videos of Coker an announcer says, "Coker pumps once...", but it wasn't a fake throw - it was just him slapping the ball prior to his windmill-like wind up. His predictable trigger, combined with a extremely slow release will have savy, swift DBs excited to pad their INT stats. Or get receivers injured, when 7 pros are practically sent a text message which target he is throwing to.

Mitch brings up valid attributes, so I'm rooting for the young man. But if this one very noticeable flaw (to an average fan) can not be fixed, he is a liability on the field.

 

[unseenaz]

He's got a strange throwing motion, can't put my finger on what looks off about it

 

[MrYeahBut]

I'll be surprised if he even makes the practice squad.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Nick Saban on Jake Coker:

“I think Jake has got a lot of upside,” Alabama coach Nick Saban said of Coker during Alabama’s pro day. “Jake only has one year when he really played and was ‘The Man.’ I think one reason Jake didn’t get invited to the combine wasn’t because of Jake. I think it is because there were 97 juniors who came out. I think that’s an issue and a problem we need to address with the NFL because it’s unfair to some of the seniors because all those guys (juniors) get invited and some of them are not ranked as high as some of the seniors who they know more about. But I think Jake is going to do just fine. I think he’s going to need to continue to develop. He’s got a great arm and can make all the throws. For his size, he is very athletic, and I think a lot of people are going to like that.”

This is what I looked at which gave a possible reason his decision making was not up to speed, since he only really had one year when he played. If a guy is making an effort to run the proper scheme and be efficient, he is not going to add lib and make quick decisions which could turn the ball over when he is not overtly familiar with the offense and one has to play in game time situations to really be exposed to making those decisions. If the guy is also respectful of the coach, he is also going to do what he can under the current learning curve to be efficient. I am not saying he has a great chance to be another Tom Brady because that is rare but the circumstances are similar to me and we just do not know till he is given time to show the Cardinals. We can talk about the negatives but it sure is not arm strength, accuracy or not being able to handle pressure, it is his ability to assimilate his decisions quickly... all I am saying is that he has a chance too

 

[Mainstreet]

He's got a strange throwing motion, can't put my finger on what looks off about it

I used to watch baseball a lot years ago but not much anymore. However, if Coker were a pitcher, I would say he has a hitch in his delivery. The ball looks a bit deceptive when he is throws it. This might actually help confuse defensive backs.

Also, great job Mitch.

 

[WisconsinCard]

How then did he thrive in Bama's pro system offense? Why then was he voted a captain? How could he play so poised, error-free and super efficiently in the three make or break games versus Florida, Michigan St. and Clemson under the intense coaching of Lane Kiffen and Nick Saban?

I ask these questions in all due respect because i always value your opinions, WCard. I am eager to read your answers.

I didn't mean it to be an insult, I just think that why he wasn't drafted or invited to the combine. This along with his long delivery. If I remember correctly he was benched for a bit as well due to his lack of anticipation on his throws.

It seems to me as if he locked in on one receiver and waited until he got open. I saw a lot of single read throws. Playing with the talent he had at Bama he could get away with that. Which is why I stated I think he could improve on that with film study, and why I mention KW would be a great mentor. Needs to improve his accuracy, but I think he was getting there IIRC he was the MVP of the cotton bowl, and played well in big games.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I'll be surprised if he even makes the practice squad.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him on our PS. In fact I would say that would benefit him greatly. Let Tom Moore work with him for a year and see what we got. I'm not sold on his arm strength just yet and look forward to him play in the preseason. I think the kid has a shot, but IMO it's 3 years or so from now.

 

[WisconsinCard]

If this really is the problem, this is not fixable. If he can't process info fast enough in college, the speed of the game in the NFL will destroy his prospects.

Maybe yes, maybe no....Kurt Warner could read defenses so well at the LOS that he knew what they were doing before they did. So did Joe Montana and why he is one of the best to ever play and he didn't have what people would call an "NFL arm".

 

[Mitch]

Maybe yes, maybe no....Kurt Warner could read defenses so well at the LOS that he knew what they were doing before they did. So did Joe Montana and why he is one of the best to ever play and he didn't have what people would call an "NFL arm".

Kurt Warner wasn't drafted either. I agree with you---Warner would be a superb mentor for Coker. Warner learned how to read defenses from Dick Vermeil. It will be interesting to see what Byron Leftwich can do with him and then of course what BA and TM can do for him. Coker plays tough---and he doesn't go down easy---two of the traits BA loves in his QBs.

 

[oaken1]

Kurt Warner wasn't drafted either. I agree with you---Warner would be a superb mentor for Coker. Warner learned how to read defenses from Dick Vermeil. It will be interesting to see what Byron Leftwich can do with him and then of course what BA and TM can do for him. Coker plays tough---and he doesn't go down easy---two of the traits BA loves in his QBs.

curious as to which QB Warner has tried to teach that actually played well afterwards?

 

[Zeno]

curious as to which QB Warner has tried to teach that actually played well afterwards?

Well it seemed to actually work the complete opposite way for Colin Kaepernick, Warner works with him he has his worst season ever. I wonder if Warner was on our payroll at the time

 

[WisconsinCard]

curious as to which QB Warner has tried to teach that actually played well afterwards?

I didn't way KW should coach the kid, I said I think he would be a good mentor. In other words teach JC what it's like to be an NFL QB and the prep that goes with it.

There was a great article written last year by someone who followed Carson Palmer for a few days that just showed the prep work CP and all good NFL QBs go through on a regular basis.

I said this because KW worked so well with the OC. They watched film together and I believe that KW may be one of the best film study QBs to ever play. By that I mean he understood what he saw and knew how to counter it. I think that instilled a great deal of confidence in KW and why he played so well in big games.

 

[Cardiac]

I didn't way KW should coach the kid, I said I think he would be a good mentor. In other words teach JC what it's like to be an NFL QB and the prep that goes with it.

There was a great article written last year by someone who followed Carson Palmer for a few days that just showed the prep work CP and all good NFL QBs go through on a regular basis.

I said this because KW worked so well with the OC. They watched film together and I believe that KW may be one of the best film study QBs to ever play. By that I mean he understood what he saw and knew how to counter it. I think that instilled a great deal of confidence in KW and why he played so well in big games.

Good Post.