Jake Plummer was one win from the Super Bowl

[Lefty]

Do you think he can get the Broncos to the Super Bowl this year?

 

[Pariah]

He finally matched his Arizona playoff wins in Denver.

No, I don't think they can win. As good as Denver is, they're not as good as Pittsburgh or Indy--especially Indy AT Indy.

 

[ajcardfan]

Do you think he can get the Broncos to the Super Bowl this year?

Sure. If they recover a couple of muffed fumbles and return an INT 100 yds again they can win.

 

[AzCards21]

I think I would kill to see him with a Q and Fitz receiver corp.

Jake was never our problem it was coaching and surrounding him with talent.

And guess what, Denver doesn't seem to worry about who is the backup. We didn't either when he was here. Because it doesn't matter you won't see him anyway.

 

[Shane]

He finally matched his Arizona playoff wins in Denver.

No, I don't think they can win. As good as Denver is, they're not as good as Pittsburgh or Indy--especially Indy AT Indy.

They can def beat Pitt especially in Denver. But you are prob right about indy.

 

[BigRedArk]

Colts gotta come thru now.

 

[jstadvl]

I agree that they can beat the Steelers.
Jake had no running game today and turn overs are part of the game.
If it was the donkies that turned it over, no one would cut Plummer any slack.
I, for one, am very happy for him and the donkies. Just as the Seahags did, they finally got a monkey off their backs.

 

[rtjim]

I agree that they can beat the Steelers.
Jake had no running game today and turn overs are part of the game.
If it was the donkies that turned it over, no one would cut Plummer any slack.
I, for one, am very happy for him and the donkies. Just as the Seahags did, they finally got a monkey off their backs.

I totally agree if it had been the other way around EVERYONE would be talking about how great New England was, and how they completely man handled Denver . But insteed we get to hear how lucky Denver was? Did anyone stop to think that just maybe Denver took New England out of thier game?

 

[CardShark]

Denver has been building to match up aganst Indy for the last 2 years and to get home field. It was the wrong team, time and place for NE to take on. Whoever the Broncos face next week, it should be a wail of a game. I actually think they are better off going against Indy there than they are taking on Pittsburgh at home. Like I said, they've been building with Indy in mind. Pittsburgh might be too physical for them.

Congratulations to Jake! Aside from the Pats turnovers (caused by Denver), he was the difference in the game. His abilities make Denver the best play action pass team in the league. He's what Vick can only hope to be at this point.

 

[az jam]

Denver's defense really looked good. The offense led by Jake played a nice steady game. Turnovers were the difference and the Patriots had five. I think that the Bronco's would beat the Steelers in Denver but feel they would lose to the Colts in the Indy Dome.

 

[Stout]

Well, I hear the Denver defense played so well, notice Anderson had two scoring runs, and then I take a look at Plummer's stat line, and I'm pretty sure they won IN SPITE of the Fake.

Denver Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
J. Plummer 15 26 197 57.7 7.6 2 7 1 1


Plummer is what he is: A weak-armed QB with legs, who often makes abysmal decisions, who can win IF and ONLY IF he has a complete complement of talent around him to hold him up by the bootstraps. Oh, he'll pull a win or two out of nowhere in a comeback, but it's usually in a game where he dug the hole all by his lonesome. He's average at best, and cannot lead a team to the Super Bowl. All Pittsburgh will have to do, if they play, is to force Plummer to bet them. And he won't.

 

[Pariah]

Well, I hear the Denver defense played so well, notice Anderson had two scoring runs, and then I take a look at Plummer's stat line, and I'm pretty sure they won IN SPITE of the Fake.

Denver Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
J. Plummer 15 26 197 57.7 7.6 2 7 1 1

That's not a bad day, but they didn't win on his arm.

They also didn't win on Anderson's legs. Yeah, he had two TD runs ...buth from a yard out set up by TOs and bogus penalties.

They won on the strength of the defsense and the TOs they created.

 

[Billy Flynt]

Well, I hear the Denver defense played so well, notice Anderson had two scoring runs, and then I take a look at Plummer's stat line, and I'm pretty sure they won IN SPITE of the Fake.

Denver Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
J. Plummer 15 26 197 57.7 7.6 2 7 1 1


Plummer is what he is: A weak-armed QB with legs, who often makes abysmal decisions, who can win IF and ONLY IF he has a complete complement of talent around him to hold him up by the bootstraps. Oh, he'll pull a win or two out of nowhere in a comeback, but it's usually in a game where he dug the hole all by his lonesome. He's average at best, and cannot lead a team to the Super Bowl. All Pittsburgh will have to do, if they play, is to force Plummer to bet them. And he won't.

Stout:

Glad to hear that you harbor no ill feelings about Jake.

I only got to watch the 4th Quarter of the game, but Jake made several plays that sealed the win for Denver. Say what you will but I would rather have Jake Plummer than any of the other QBs that we have carted out there to play since he left. An aging Warner is the only one that comes close and he can't avoid a sack to save his life (and it may come down to that if we don't get some OL help).

 

[blindseyed]

I think Jake plyed good. He made plays when they needed to be made. That Def of Denver stepped up big time tho. They really were tough. That being said, Jake came thru when the D gave him the ball back. I know if Plkummer is being asked to 'lead' them to the SB..he has talent around him.
I'm just happy the Pats lost...

 

[Scott MS]

Give the guy a break. He's made tremendous strides since he was running for his life in Arizona. I'm cheering for him. Broncos are #2 in the AFC behind Indy. They would beat Pittsburgh in Denver, but it will be a tough game in Indy . . .

although I have to wonder how rusty Indy will be. Peyton hasn't played in a month. They were a great team for the first 13 weeks of the season but that team hasn't made an appearance since early December. I think Pittsburgh may take them today.

 

[ajcardfan]

They won on the strength of the defsense and the TOs they created.

Yes, that's primarily why they won. They made the big plays, NE didn't. Plummer was okay. The best thing about his game last night was he made very few mistakes. He didn't really do anything special either. He's much more boring now than when he played here.

 

[BigRedFan]

The Broncos deserved to win, they made the plays that counted and played a good physical game, but they will need to play better to beat Indy. (Im assuming). The running game was subpar and Brady was able to find ways to beat the blitz, but the turnovers were too much for the Patriots to overcome. This game could have easily gone the other way.

 

[rtjim]

Well, I hear the Denver defense played so well, notice Anderson had two scoring runs, and then I take a look at Plummer's stat line, and I'm pretty sure they won IN SPITE of the Fake.

Denver Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
J. Plummer 15 26 197 57.7 7.6 2 7 1 1


Plummer is what he is: A weak-armed QB with legs, who often makes abysmal decisions, who can win IF and ONLY IF he has a complete complement of talent around him to hold him up by the bootstraps. Oh, he'll pull a win or two out of nowhere in a comeback, but it's usually in a game where he dug the hole all by his lonesome. He's average at best, and cannot lead a team to the Super Bowl. All Pittsburgh will have to do, if they play, is to force Plummer to bet them. And he won't.

I think that is why it's a team game Jake played well as did the entire team. As for his stats he had several drops, and made several key plays

 

[BigRedFan]

So far, Plummer has had better stats and winning percentage than Elway had in Denver. Plummer had among the fewest turnovers of any QB in the league this year. Elway couldnt win a Superbowl until the team had the complete package of defense, pass, and run. You could say the same thing about Peyton Manning. Great stats but hasnt won the big game; now that they have a good D they have a good chance.

Well, I hear the Denver defense played so well, notice Anderson had two scoring runs, and then I take a look at Plummer's stat line, and I'm pretty sure they won IN SPITE of the Fake.

Denver Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
J. Plummer 15 26 197 57.7 7.6 2 7 1 1


Plummer is what he is: A weak-armed QB with legs, who often makes abysmal decisions, who can win IF and ONLY IF he has a complete complement of talent around him to hold him up by the bootstraps. Oh, he'll pull a win or two out of nowhere in a comeback, but it's usually in a game where he dug the hole all by his lonesome. He's average at best, and cannot lead a team to the Super Bowl. All Pittsburgh will have to do, if they play, is to force Plummer to bet them. And he won't.

 

[football karma]

For the Pats --- that game was Cardinal-esque

totally outgain the Broncos in yards -- except that:

1. Two lost fumbles on special teams
2. Getting screwed on a pass interference call
3. A horrific decision by the QB inside the 10 yard line

 

[jstadvl]

Whoa Stout

at first, they relied on the passing game, almost exclusively. The QB in that situation is bound to make some mistakes, intended and not, that will effect his line.
Secondly, your way off on the strwength of his arm. Ask anyone who, in the league, can compare him to other QBs that's simply not factual.
They didn't bootleg or roll him out until the second half!
C'mon my man, that TD pass was golden honey, right on the money.
No dis to you but Jake played a great game for the a game of these types of implications. This is usually when he DOES turn back into the "old" Jake. He didn't this day.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I don't know if I could handle Jake riding that stupid float around Disneyland and the nonstop commericals that go with it. Being a Cardinals fan is torture enough, but that image might send me over the edge.

 

[az jam]

Can you believe Indy losing at home against the Steelers! Steelers now play Denver in Denver. It would be nice to see Jake and the Broncos beat Pitt and go to the Super Bowl!

 

[BigRedArk]

He finally matched his Arizona playoff wins in Denver.

No, I don't think they can win. As good as Denver is, they're not as good as Pittsburgh or Indy--especially Indy AT Indy.

I hope you are right Pariah but....the Broncos will be hard to beat in Denver and all of that thin air. The Steelers will likely be sucking on oxygen masks like there is no tommorow. I am afraid it is Denver to the SB. Hope I am wrong. And to think just last April lots of people were saying what fools they were for signing the entire Cleveland starting DLine and for drafting that overwieght and slow dude from Ohio State in the 3rd round ( his name escapes me right now). Who woulda thunk it?

 

[Stout]

at first, they relied on the passing game, almost exclusively. The QB in that situation is bound to make some mistakes, intended and not, that will effect his line.
Secondly, your way off on the strwength of his arm. Ask anyone who, in the league, can compare him to other QBs that's simply not factual.
They didn't bootleg or roll him out until the second half!
C'mon my man, that TD pass was golden honey, right on the money.
No dis to you but Jake played a great game for the a game of these types of implications. This is usually when he DOES turn back into the "old" Jake. He didn't this day.

Hey, I didn't see the game, so I'm mainly going on what I know about Jake, but when you put up stat lines like his, you'd better have lots and lots of help around you, which he certainly did. Jake is simply the kind of QB I hate. Unless you surround him with top-level talent, gameplan a system that babies him down to the smallest minutea (sp?), and take off all pressure, he'll lose a lot of the games he plays. He's a QB that can only rarely take the team on his back. Remember, most of his comebacks were from deficits he himself created. I want a QB that CAN carry his team, like Marino could. I mean, Marino had his team competing every year, with what exactly on offense to work with?