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But to live your life ignorant of facts is just plain stupid..

I sometimes have wondered, but have never said anything.. But your posts are very strange.. Do you live on the same planet as us?

What your just basically said is this.. Your throwing facts out the window.. It will never happen to you since it hasnt happen to you yet.. Way to take precautions..

I have nothing for you then.. Except.. Good luck..

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You are a wise man.
 

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Harrison was at first skeptical of sending his son to the children's hospital, saying:

"This is how I feel -- if you want to see James Harrison III, invite him when he isn't attacked by a pit bull. As far as I'm concerned, they [Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh] would've invited Elijah Warner if he had been bitten by a pit bull."

That is one very sick man. Baker act his ass.
 

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This is a simple issue for me and I make no attempt to pursuade anyone else because the effort is always wasted. Between my own experiences and reading, where pit bulls are concerned, I live by simple rules.

  1. I will not visit any person's house where there is a pit bull.
  2. Anyplace I go and unexpectedly find a pit bull, I leave imediately. This includes everywhere. Friend's homes, parks and beaches.
  3. I left a Card's Flagstaff practice when a loose pit bull ran across the fields when the team was practicing.
  4. No pit bull is allowed on my property or in my house or in my vehicle.

Those are very good rules to live by. I would go one step further,... but it might be too extreme.
 

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Actually, I think it is because of how they were bred , a few thousand years ago. They will snap. They do snap. They are bred to snap. Attempting to modify their behavior, which was bred into them, never works. Sure they are extremely loyal, to their owner. It is the rest of us that they are not loyal to. Everyone else is their potential target.
Not trying to sound rude but that isn't even remotely close to an accurate description of an AMSTAF at all. They are not extremely loyal at all and one of the biggest knocks on them is that they dont value their owners much more than they do a regular joe walking down the street, thus making them less than stellar watchdogs.

These dogs were also NEVER bred to snap. That statement is pure ignorance at it's finest. They were trained to be in control at all times and to never lose their coll. Again, their handlers have their hands on the dogs' rear for most of the matches, so why on earth would they want the dogs to snap?

When a Pit Bull snaps, it is a byproduct of one of three things: (1) inbreeding (2) cross breeding with other breeds of dogs and (3) poor ownership.

FWIW, I have been in close contact with THOUSANDS of fighting and house-dwelling Pit Bulls and have been bitten by 4 dogs:
1 Maltese
1 German Sheppard
1 Rottweiler
1 "Benji" dog (I dont know what those things real name is)
 

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Not trying to sound rude but that isn't even remotely close to an accurate description of an AMSTAF at all. They are not extremely loyal at all and one of the biggest knocks on them is that they dont value their owners much more than they do a regular joe walking down the street, thus making them less than stellar watchdogs.

These dogs were also NEVER bred to snap. That statement is pure ignorance at it's finest. They were trained to be in control at all times and to never lose their coll. Again, their handlers have their hands on the dogs' rear for most of the matches, so why on earth would they want the dogs to snap?

When a Pit Bull snaps, it is a byproduct of one of three things: (1) inbreeding (2) cross breeding with other breeds of dogs and (3) poor ownership.

FWIW, I have been in close contact with THOUSANDS of fighting and house-dwelling Pit Bulls and have been bitten by 4 dogs:
1 Maltese
1 German Sheppard
1 Rottweiler
1 "Benji" dog (I dont know what those things real name is)

The technicalities be damned. It is defending the indefensible. They serve no purpose except to please someone's fantasy or hobby. What is the point of owning a destructive animal, that was historically bred to be what it is?

I have made myself clear as a victim. I have no tolerance for someone's hobby that has the potential to invoke the highest level of trauma. I would suggest that a large proportion of a random audience would be either dead, mauled or traumatized by the Rot that went after me. It killed 2 other dogs prior to attacking me. It mauled a blind illegal immigrant, who refused to report the incident for fear of deportation. South Florida newspapers report, minimally 2 to 3 major incidents per week of unprovoked Pit attacks per week. Last week a cop shot and killed a Pit that attacked him while making a routine domestic disturbance call.

What I find especially disturbing is that James Harrison didn't kill his own dog.
 

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The dog was always locked up. Harrison wasn't at home. His wife, who does not live at the home, was at the home and let the dog out near their son. Strange home life.

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Where did it say that the woman was his "wife"? She was the child's mother.
 

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, you would find out that the pitbull terrier isn't the villian that the media makes it out to be.
You act like the media created this. They report when pit bulls attack. They happen to attack moreso than others and the ferocity is what makes them newsworthy, especially when it invloves children. If cocker spaniels starting attacking kids at a high rate,and with such visciousness, you would hear about them as well. It's not like the media went out of their way to single out pit bulls.
 

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The technicalities be damned. It is defending the indefensible. They serve no purpose except to please someone's fantasy or hobby. What is the point of owning a destructive animal, that was historically bred to be what it is?

By technicalities, you do mean facts right? What do you know about these animals that gives you any idea what they are good for and that they are nothing more than someones hobby? That is just a ridiculous post.

I had my Pits because they were fast and fun and great swimmers. I live on the water and loved going for swims in the morning with my dogs. Is that really so horrible? Was I getting some sick satisfaction from it? I thought it was cool that my dog could run and jump straight over my head or hang from a tree branch by it's teeth until I told it to stop.

I guess as sports fans we should consider ourselves to be sick and the players are nothing more than something for us to gawk at because we appreciate their amazing athleticism?


I have made myself clear as a victim.

No you haven't. You said you were attacked by a Rotty. What the hell does that have to do with a Pitt Bull. I guess we should put down all of the poodles too becuase you were bit by a Rottweiler?

On top of this, you want to justify your hate for a species because of one memeber of it that wronged you? Wow, what word comes to mind when I read over this?

I have no tolerance for someone's hobby that has the potential to invoke the highest level of trauma. [.quote]

Who is asking you to? Nobody is supporting the fighting of these animals.

I would suggest that a large proportion of a random audience would be either dead, mauled or traumatized by the Rot that went after me. It killed 2 other dogs prior to attacking me. It mauled a blind illegal immigrant, who refused to report the incident for fear of deportation.

Again, what doew this have to do with a Pit Bull?


South Florida newspapers report, minimally 2 to 3 major incidents per week of unprovoked Pit attacks per week. Last week a cop shot and killed a Pit that attacked him while making a routine domestic disturbance call.

Thank you for proving my point. First though, let me just say that any police officer will tell you that they are prdered to shoot any dogs that are in their way when they madke a domestic violence call.

Now, you are obviously talking about some crappy individuals here. They are beating each other up and the police had to be called. Would you expect them to raiser any sort of healthy-minded creature???? If this guy beats his wife, what do you think he does to the dog?

Also, if the dog was normal, picture the scenario: It's owners are fighting and acting crazy so he must already be really spooked and then this stranger comes into their home yelling at his owners and him.

What I find especially disturbing is that James Harrison didn't kill his own dog.

I agree, though I dont recall reading anything about whether he was havbing it put down or not. It should have been put down on the spot IMO.
 

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You act like the media created this. They report when pit bulls attack. They happen to attack moreso than others and the ferocity is what makes them newsworthy, especially when it invloves children. If cocker spaniels starting attacking kids at a high rate,and with such visciousness, you would hear about them as well. It's not like the media went out of their way to single out pit bulls.
Actually Pit Bulls do not attack more than other dogs. In fact, I am pretty sure they are not even in the top 10. Normally, the beloved German Sheppard or Poodle tops the list.

To say that the media doesn't take advantage of these situations is just nonsense man. I would think a guy with such a fantastic avatar would know this :). They know that people are all-ears when the words "Pitt Bull attack" are uttered. It's the same thing with shark attacks.

The bottom lines is that the Pitt Bull, or mixes involving it are the most popular dog in this country. Every species, race and culture has bad seeds and examples of poor surroundings leading to bad behavior. MS13 is the fastest growing and most violent gang in the world and it is estimated they will be 100,000 strong in the US by 2010. Should all San Salvadorans (where the gang originates) be killed because of the scumbags that share a homeland and ancestry with them?
 

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By technicalities, you do mean facts right? What do you know about these animals that gives you any idea what they are good for and that they are nothing more than someones hobby? That is just a ridiculous post.

I had my Pits because they were fast and fun and great swimmers. I live on the water and loved going for swims in the morning with my dogs. Is that really so horrible? Was I getting some sick satisfaction from it? I thought it was cool that my dog could run and jump straight over my head or hang from a tree branch by it's teeth until I told it to stop.

I guess as sports fans we should consider ourselves to be sick and the players are nothing more than something for us to gawk at because we appreciate their amazing athleticism?




No you haven't. You said you were attacked by a Rotty. What the hell does that have to do with a Pitt Bull. I guess we should put down all of the poodles too becuase you were bit by a Rottweiler?

On top of this, you want to justify your hate for a species because of one memeber of it that wronged you? Wow, what word comes to mind when I read over this?

I have no tolerance for someone's hobby that has the potential to invoke the highest level of trauma. [.quote]

Who is asking you to? Nobody is supporting the fighting of these animals.



Again, what doew this have to do with a Pit Bull?




Thank you for proving my point. First though, let me just say that any police officer will tell you that they are prdered to shoot any dogs that are in their way when they madke a domestic violence call.

Now, you are obviously talking about some crappy individuals here. They are beating each other up and the police had to be called. Would you expect them to raiser any sort of healthy-minded creature???? If this guy beats his wife, what do you think he does to the dog?

Also, if the dog was normal, picture the scenario: It's owners are fighting and acting crazy so he must already be really spooked and then this stranger comes into their home yelling at his owners and him.



I agree, though I dont recall reading anything about whether he was havbing it put down or not. It should have been put down on the spot IMO.

Your entire post is self serving crap. You and others have animals that have the ability to do monstrous damage and your reasons for having them are purely selfish. Next time I encounter one of these marauding beasts I'll be sure to ID their breed to keep your kind happy. Or maybe I will just cap him on the spot and figure it out later. There is absolutely no sense in threads like these. Owners of these animals have little respect for others and a misplaced right of superiority and are usually as flawed as their prized puppies. They do not belong in general society.

They have jaws that could bite through a 2 x 4 and when on a leash, it must be capable of lifting about a thousand pounds. How about those 6 foot fences around the yard they prowl in? Now I am sure the owners will all tell you those restrictions are unfairly mandated by law. We have all heard the same line of defense.

The ridiculous nature of defending a breed by comparing it to other breeds is shallow. It is nothing more than drivel.

I am done. As a dog attack victim, I don't need to defend myself.
 

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By technicalities, you do mean facts right? What do you know about these animals that gives you any idea what they are good for and that they are nothing more than someones hobby? That is just a ridiculous post.

I had my Pits because they were fast and fun and great swimmers. I live on the water and loved going for swims in the morning with my dogs. Is that really so horrible? Was I getting some sick satisfaction from it? I thought it was cool that my dog could run and jump straight over my head or hang from a tree branch by it's teeth until I told it to stop.

I guess as sports fans we should consider ourselves to be sick and the players are nothing more than something for us to gawk at because we appreciate their amazing athleticism?




No you haven't. You said you were attacked by a Rotty. What the hell does that have to do with a Pitt Bull. I guess we should put down all of the poodles too becuase you were bit by a Rottweiler?

On top of this, you want to justify your hate for a species because of one memeber of it that wronged you? Wow, what word comes to mind when I read over this?



Your entire post is self serving crap. You and others have animals that have the ability to do monstrous damage and your reasons for having them are purely selfish. Next time I encounter one of these marauding beasts I'll be sure to ID their breed to keep your kind happy. Or maybe I will just cap him on the spot and figure it out later. There is absolutely no sense in threads like these. Owners of these animals have little respect for others and a misplaced right of superiority and are usually as flawed as their prized puppies. They do not belong in general society.

They have jaws that could bite through a 2 x 4 and when on a leash, it must be capable of lifting about a thousand pounds. How about those 6 foot fences around the yard they prowl in? Now I am sure the owners will all tell you those restrictions are unfairly mandated by law. We have all heard the same line of defense.

The ridiculous nature of defending a breed by comparing it to other breeds is shallow. It is nothing more than drivel.

I am done. As a dog attack victim, I don't need to defend myself.

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Nothing you have said is anywhere near the truth and I dont even own a dog right now. You are hilarious.

No dog on the planet can even bite halfway through a 2X4. I cant believe I actually tried to reason with someone of such small brain capacity. I wont make the same mistake twice.
 

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Actually Pit Bulls do not attack more than other dogs. In fact, I am pretty sure they are not even in the top 10. Normally, the beloved German Sheppard or Poodle tops the list.

To say that the media doesn't take advantage of these situations is just nonsense man. I would think a guy with such a fantastic avatar would know this :). They know that people are all-ears when the words "Pitt Bull attack" are uttered. It's the same thing with shark attacks.

The bottom lines is that the Pitt Bull, or mixes involving it are the most popular dog in this country. Every species, race and culture has bad seeds and examples of poor surroundings leading to bad behavior. MS13 is the fastest growing and most violent gang in the world and it is estimated they will be 100,000 strong in the US by 2010. Should all San Salvadorans (where the gang originates) be killed because of the scumbags that share a homeland and ancestry with them?
my point was if Poodles or Germans shepherds were doing the mauling on such a ferociuos level that you wuld hear about them as well. It's not like the media decided they were going to single out the pit bull.It just so happens that Pitbulls, when they do go off, take it to another level. I'll agree that, in today's media, pitbull attacks are somewhat sensationalized. But that has come over time due to the fact that their attacks are usually pretty gruesome and many times unprovoked.
 

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Easy dos it, guys. Time to move on? This is not an issue where people can be swayed from strongly held opinions.
 
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