Jason Richardson Accused Of DUI

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Regardless of the laws, inforcement of them, and inaccuracy of the equiptment, many people get behind the wheel drunk and roll the dice with the attitude of "it wont happen to me". Many comments in this thread have even pointed towards doing so. Its no so difficult to designate a driver or arrange a cab or other form of transportation. I am not talking about the guy who goes out and has a beer or two but the people that hang all evening drinking and blindly hop behind the wheel with no regard to their state of inebreation. In my opinion, it's an ignorant attitude and shows no respect for your fellow citizens.
 

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im not saying u should, im just admitting i have. i think, if we're honest and not alcohol abstainers, we've all had a drink and gotten behind the wheel. Im not saying absolutely hammered and gone driving all over the road. im saying 2 beers at the sports bar and drove home after the game. thats still a dui. especially with the large beers they serve u at applebee's. shoot, one of those would put u over the limit. most people dont realize how easy it is to be over the limit. id say most people (non alcohol abstainer) have done something like this. of course, not the noble, sinless, blameless, infallible, disciples of purity that post on this site.

once again, im not saying u should. im just saying most of us, if being honest, have at one point. it just drives me nuts when people cast stones and have done the same bs

The key is to hang around a drink water until it's safe to drive home. If you've had more than that, get a cab.
 
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Lets ignore the decades of Urban Sprawl abuse and wide open roadways this city's govt has let happen without any regulation, and instead put speedtraps everywhere in the city. Then every time we pull someone over for going 65 in the quarter mile of freeway thats 55, we will ask them if they have been drinking. That way we can rack up the most DUIs per pullover in the world.

Phoenix has been on lockdown and its going to get more and more ridiculous and then something is going to snap. The biggest roads with the most medians and lanes ANYWHERE in the nation, with the most strict speeding laws ever.

I lived in the Phoenix area most all my life and have a good driving record. However, a few years back I moved elsewhere in Arizona. Now I am totally paranoid when I return to the Valley. There are the speeding cameras just about everywhere, hidden speed zones and photo radar at just about every intersection. Also I have found some school zones, especially in Scottsdale, to be almost hidden.

Now I fear I am becoming too distracted by all the different rules and gotchas to give my entire focus on just being a good driver. I've come to believe the cities are more worried making money rather than promoting safety.
 
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I lived in the Phoenix area most all my life and have a good driving record. However, a few years back I moved elsewhere in Arizona. Now I am totally paranoid when I return to the Valley. There are the speeding cameras just about everywhere, hidden speed zones and photo radar at just about every intersection. Also I have found some school zones, especially in Scottsdale, to be almost hidden.

Now I fear I am becoming too distracted by all the different rules and gotchas to give my entire focus on just being a good driver. I've come to believe the cities are more worried making money rather than promoting safety.
I moved to LA this year, and drive back for holidays. It is clear that Big Brother completely dominates the streets of Phoenix now.
 

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In a free society, the law must be practiced with a high degree of caution so the innocent are not conviced and punished wrongly. If a measurement device error is +/- 50% at the threshold, the probability of wrongly convicting someone reading 0.11% is way too high. it is the job of government to make sure that the innocent are not wrongly punished. Drunk driving is a big problem, but convicting the innocent to be sure you get the guilty is not the answer. The problems with device accuracy suggest the threshold limit should be higher than 0.08% to limit this problem.

The use of such monitoring devices to determine a 0.08% threshold is irresponsible regardless of the desirability of DUI law enforcement. Only in phoenix, where a mother is shot and killed trying to evade arrest for attempting to buy drugs with an improper prescriptiuon is that possible. Yeah you heard, shot dead in front of her 2 yr old while trying to drive off from the pharmacy drive through, and the cop didnt even lose his job. But you know he did tell her to stop and she didnt and did run over his big toe. This kind of excessive behavior is not perimtted anywhere back east or california.
 
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I watched a report on the "cruelest sheriff in the US" a few weeks ago, some ******** sheriff from Phoenix who pretty much tortured the prisoners (and killed some apparently), but he still gets elected every time.

Pretty much changed my opinion of possibly moving to the Phoenix area sometime in the future.
 
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio is his name. Good thing is, he's in his 70's (i think mid-late), so he can't possibly last much longer as Sheriff. Maybe one more term?

He does win big every time. But that's probably because 90 percent of the valley isn't patrolled by Sherrif Joe's boys. It's usually in the smaller towns like Ftn. Hills and such that they patrol. (So he patrols those little areas and then also is in charge of the jail/prison facilities) I've seen them on other streets, but it's like once a year. So in other words, you have a bunch of people that elect someone that they never really run into. This imo allows him to be a complete donkey to a select few people and terrorize them, but it has only limited negative effect on his popularity. Think of it like Shaq's free throws. Even if he hits 100 percent the rest of the year, his career average will still suck. So basically Sherrif Joe and his boys can violate everybody's rights they run into, and it'll only impact a few percent of the population, and thus he gets elected time after time.

He is imo the worst civil rights offender in the nation, not on the federal level. You're supposed to protect and serve the public, not terrorize them. He's all into the mind games of power, and it's just so sick and twisted imo....and you can tell he gets his jollies from doing so to. (it's all over his nonverbal communication)

It's just so funny how he looks the other way from all of what I've read on his own people, and even himself, but he treats everyone in his jail no matter the crime like they are murderer's looking to kill anyone in sight.

Tent city is a crime against humanity. Especially in our heat.

He is the type to forget the laws and try to bust everyone just so you get one extra jaywalker on a saturday afternoon.

I remember when I was 18, I still had friends in high school. One of my friends I took to a homecoming dance (girl ofc lol), and the dance got out at like midnight. On the way home, we were pulled over for one of the license plate lights being out (lame). Since she wasn't 18 they gave her a curfew ticket. On the way home from a hs dance. A sanctioned event. Not to mention, the guy was giving me the third degree, like I was trying to prey upon her. She was a friend, nothing more, nothing desired to be more. But that's what you get from these guys. Obviously I haven't met everyone, so I won't lump them all into one category, but generally speaking, it seems he only tries to hire the hard line type of person.

I've actually never seen one of his posse actually be legit. They all act as hard as drill Sargeants (sp), happy about having a gun and some power. But again, I'm sure I haven't met 90 percent of them, so yeah. But I can compare and contrast my experiences with actual city police departments...and although every police force has it's over the top people, I've actually met nice ones in the various city departments.

The use of red-light cameras is such bull. When the first ones appeared in Scottsdale I did a couple of college papers on them. It's a cash grab, nothing else. Saves lives, puhleeze. I wonder how many crashes occurred because someone slammed on the breaks during heavy traffic when they saw they hadn't noticed the speed camera until they were right up on it....the deaths on the 101, remember those weren't from speeding, they were from cars going into oncoming traffic. Which for the most part ceased when they added the temporary barriers, and now with the permanent ones they never occur again. But ofc, they try to act like it's the cameras that cause the reduction. I can't remember the number but it was an insane amount of people they caught for speeding on the 101 with those cameras once they turned them on.

It's gotten to the point where people are vandalizing the things, spray painting them, putting stickers on them, en masse. So as you can see, it actually creates crime. Also if you are speeding big time over, they'll arrest you, even though no cop ever saw you speed.

They'll send basically P.I.'s over to serve you if you try to ignore that speeding ticket, which is just asinine imo.

Same thing with Red light cameras, you see people slam on the breaks in front of you all the time, even though it would be 10x safer just to have them run the red light by .1 of a second.

Just wait, it won't be long until they have the cameras everywhere, and catching everything. Not using turn signals, etc, etc. It's not hard they are already working on cameras that look at a person's face and tries to determine if they are about to engage in criminal actions and such. I mean it's really getting Orwellian.

Blood alcohol isn't a perfect measure, even if you could accurately measure it. Tolerance comes into play. Think of a 21 year old woman that doesn't drink. Two beers might not get her to the limit, but she may be 10x as drunk as a 220 pound guy that blew a .08. But only he gets busted, she won't.

The real way is probably to measure the release of endorphins in the brain. It's the brain chemistry that will lead to accuracy, not blood alcohol level. As each body will absorb and brain be influenced by alcohol in different ways. The real only way to be fair is make it a .000 limit. When an endorphin test is invented, it would be the fair way.

Of course people say blood, but there are times where you alcohol level hasn't peaked. You can take 5 shots in 5 minutes, and drive (ofc don't) and be sober until it hits you an hour or two later, but by the time you get to the station your BAC has gone over the limit. These people should NOT be charged, but they will be.

Again I'm not one who wants 1000 laws restricting our freedom just because one girl jaywalked and died 20 years ago. Basically that's where we are headed, and it's just sick.

Of course we also have for-profit prisons that need to be filled, so we have to fill them some way so somebody can make 2 cents dividend on the shares. I remember one of my friends half brother was shipped off to Texas to a private prison. An Arizona prisoner, with family in Arizona, with the crimes committed in Arizona, and a debt to Arizona, served out his term hundreds maybe even close to a thousand miles away. That's so wrong on so many levels.

Not to mention all the waste spent on these extra laws adds an entire level of bureaucracy on everything, which in turn makes everything less efficient and more expensive. (not to mention clogging the courts up)

It's not about justice and keeping law and order anymore. It's about fear, power, and profit. Anyways back to how it relates to the Suns.

I remember JC used to have a 24 hour limo service on call for Suns players if they got drunk. Hopefully Sarver kept that, and let Richardson know for next time.
 

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Sheriff Joe is an attention seeking, cruel, miserable upholder of the law, and Arizona has the oddest voting tendencies of any state.
 

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Although you proffered a reason, but year after year Arpaio is re-elected. I dislike the dude and detest his attitude. I have ran into his "Posse" once during their stupid crime-watch (cough,cough illegal immigration stops) and their attitude is bordering on violation of human rights. It is obvious all this A-Hole want is fame judging by his comments and smug attitude when he is on TV.
The Law in Phoenix is one of the reason i may be leaving AZ.
 

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You know that b-rated movie with the rock? He takes back his town from drug people and takes down the entire sherrif's office cause they are dirty, I mean he shoots and kills them, and then ends up being the sherrif.
 

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You are suggesting that someone on this board attempt that? That isn't very sound advice.
 

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You know that b-rated movie with the rock? He takes back his town from drug people and takes down the entire sherrif's office cause they are dirty, I mean he shoots and kills them, and then ends up being the sherrif.


Is Stifler in that movie?
 

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A and B are like grades.

A movies are good, awesome movies that win awards...

B movies are decent movies that get minor attention....

Then C, D, and F...
 

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