Jeff Blake (height)
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Shouldn't you be counting all the money you saved by not renewing your season tickets? You won't be there to see any batted passes so what do you care?
Now why would you say that? Talk about sour grapes.
I've said a number of times that we will pick what games we want to see and get tickets from a broker or buy them outside SDS.
We are still Card fans but I must say I have not seen any moves, as yet, that will get the Cards to 9/7 or as some of you have stated 10/6.
In my view the loss of Boston and, yes, Plummer and Grutts have weakened this team. Further, if Kendall goes down in week 3 or 4 our QB's could very well end up on the IR list.
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Not current.
In 2000 he had 2.3% of his passes "hit at the line" per Stats INC, Jake had 1.3% hit at the line. Since Blake still manages to complete a higher % with less picks I'm not all that worried. Stats says Jake had only 6 balls hit at the line in 2000, seemed to happen a lot more in the last 2 years but I don't have a book for those years.
Blake is definitely shorter than Jake, always has been.
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Blake is definitely shorter than Jake, always has been.
What were their Wunderlics, I wonder?
What were their Wunderlics, I wonder?
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I think Jake locked on the first question and never finished (-:
I guess I was being facetious if we were drafting Blake to replace Jake his height and potential for passes being batted down would be a valid concern. For a guy who's been in the league as long as Blake I think you can safely assume he can throw the ball over his OL.
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
If memory serves, back around '94 or '95 I saw a piece on "Inside The NFL" about Blake. He's actually 5'10" without spikes, closer to 6'0" with (but in the grass, more like 5'11"). His short game is his only problem. He still sees the field well, but his height causes a lot of "bat-downs".
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
I doubt that Jake took the Wunderlich test...as evidenced by his inability to read defenses shows, he just can't read at all...
Plummer is gone and it does not make any difference if Blake is 5'5" or 6'5". Time will prove if the Cards are weaker. Plummer it appeared to me had an enormous number of batted balls. That of course be the result of poor offensive line play. You take a back handed swipe at Blake and he has not even started his first game. We had 6 years to look at Plummer and have a good idea of what he produced. Who are you going to watch Denver or the Cards when they are both playing at the same time?
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I can see it now - Jeff Blake standing on a wooden crate like Alan Ladd - taking a direct snap, with the cameras shooting upward from his knees - to make him look taller.
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Not that big of a problem
Isn't Jeff Garcia about 6' and though you can't measue Vick because of what else he brings to the game, but Vick is about 6' too (right?).
Isn't Jeff Garcia about 6' and though you can't measue Vick because of what else he brings to the game, but Vick is about 6' too (right?).
Re: Not that big of a problem
Your not suggesting.......Naw.
You guys are beautiful, for years you have lambasted Jake for being too short in a world of 6-4 or 6-5 QB's. Now.....it doesn't make any difference. Boy, that says alot.
Your not suggesting.......Naw.
You guys are beautiful, for years you have lambasted Jake for being too short in a world of 6-4 or 6-5 QB's. Now.....it doesn't make any difference. Boy, that says alot.
Yes it does John. I would hate to have to count the posts that complained about Jake being too short and now, you of all people, say it doesn't make any difference.
John, I answered your question once before about being a Card fan. We probably have attended more Cardinal games then anyone on this board.
I will watch the Cards, thank you.
Now if you think that I'm going to let up on you guys for running Jake out of town you have another guess coming. If he suceeds in Denver saying you were wrong will not be good enough. You and your cohorts will have hurt the Cardinals more then the Bidwills ever did. Saying you wish him well is a bunch of crap. It would be better to say we hope he fails so FJM will shut up.
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Funny, I thought we lambasted him for committing about 150 turnovers and completing under 60% of his passes.
Funny, I thought we lambasted him for committing about 150 turnovers and completing under 60% of his passes.
Lars the Red
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Thank you, I'm feeling quite attractive today.
I would still rather have a taller QB. The point you seem to be ignoring is some QB's adapt to their lack of height better. Flutie gets passes batted down, but not to the degree you would think based on his altitudinally (yes, I made that word up) challenged stature. He see's defenders well and finds the gaps to throw between. Not everyone does that.
For what it's worth, Jake's lack of height was only one of the plethora of things we lambasted him for. His two cent head, three cent arm, blind man's vision, need I go on? Enjoy the Broncos, it may work out well for him, but I'm so glad I don't have to see him on the field again.
Thank you, I'm feeling quite attractive today.
I would still rather have a taller QB. The point you seem to be ignoring is some QB's adapt to their lack of height better. Flutie gets passes batted down, but not to the degree you would think based on his altitudinally (yes, I made that word up) challenged stature. He see's defenders well and finds the gaps to throw between. Not everyone does that.
For what it's worth, Jake's lack of height was only one of the plethora of things we lambasted him for. His two cent head, three cent arm, blind man's vision, need I go on? Enjoy the Broncos, it may work out well for him, but I'm so glad I don't have to see him on the field again.
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Are you suggesting that 50 people on a message board ran Jake out of town?
It wasn't the coaching staff? It wasn't management? It wasn't his play on the field?
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That's just silly people mention Jake is short but nobody ever said they want him out because he's not 6'4". If Jake was a better QB, higher %, less turnovers, like say Jeff Blake, nobody would care about his height.
Blake has a long history in the NFL if his height was going to be a a problem he wouldn't have lasted this long, you brought up his height to get around to your latest post complaining about people attacking Jake's height. It's just silly, Blake is not a rookie we already know what to expect from him based on past career.
That's just silly people mention Jake is short but nobody ever said they want him out because he's not 6'4". If Jake was a better QB, higher %, less turnovers, like say Jeff Blake, nobody would care about his height.
Blake has a long history in the NFL if his height was going to be a a problem he wouldn't have lasted this long, you brought up his height to get around to your latest post complaining about people attacking Jake's height. It's just silly, Blake is not a rookie we already know what to expect from him based on past career.
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You've carried your non-sexual man-crush on Jake a wee bit far, don't chya think?
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Yes, or to better phrase it I think Jake was not Mac's choice as his starting QB next year. Mac was willing to keep him if Jake accepted our terms which were quite clearly structured for Jake to be one of many QB's with no guarantee of PT.
Mac didn't tell Graves that's my guy we gotta keep him, that's pretty clearly not a ringing endorsement of his opinion of Jake.
Look at Denver's contract with Jake, it's essentially a 2 year deal, only if Jake plays really well will he ever see that 2nd bonus and salary in year 3. If Denver could get him to sign such a deal you don't think the Cards could have tried to if we'd wanted to? Quite honestly it's obvious we were willing to keep Jake as a stopgap or insurance if McCown isn't ready or we couldn't sign someone else, jake didn't want to be that guy so he went to a team willing to promise him a starting role.
Look if Jake leads the Broncos to the Super Bowl next year you can gloat all you want I'll readily admit I was wrong about him. But complaining now that Jake is gone and it's our fault is silly, you spent the last year telling us our complaints were pointless that it was up to the coaches to decide who should play, suddenly all my posts about Jake's deficiencies are to blame?
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Yeah, absolutely.
Did he enjoy it after becoming friends with the guy? No.
Did he realize that 150 turnovers in 5.5 years is bad for his team? Yes.
Lars the Red
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I don't wish him well for one second. I hope the skinny little squid gets crushed like a bug, plays to his usual standard, gets bench in grandest, most publically humiliating way, and is never heard from again. He has 30, well I guess now 40 million that he can go buy friends with. He sure hasn't earned any in my book.
As for you and your lovefest with a guy that never held up his end of the bargin, get some therapy. Your posts will go unanswered soon enough.
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I don't know about everyone else...but I'm just scared to death at thought of you posting "I told you so" posts.
Geez, who gives a crap what you post? Are that arrogant to think we really care you were right and we were wrong? I haven't seen anyone this full of himself since NEM. In fact, you should change your handle to the "Anti-Nem".I don't give a Rats how Jake does in Denver. He was below average here. His red zone turnovers and first quarter 14 point holes hurt this team far more than anything some fan did on a message board.
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I don't know about everyone else...but I'm just scared to death at thought of you posting "I told you so" posts.
I don't give a Rats how Jake does in Denver. He was below average here. His red zone turnovers and first quarter 14 point holes hurt this team far more than anything some fan did on a message board.
and he did this all by himself............
