jim hart

[HeavyB3]

Show's his ignorance of football. So many rules that opened up the passing game didn't exist in the 60's and 70's. Short passes were much harder to come by because receivers would get mugged going across the middle. Obviously his only point was to inflame some of the poster of the board that actually know something about football before this decade.

This was all before my time, but I know much about the game in the earlier years and Jim Hart was a good QB.

 

[Buckybird]

My all time favorite Cardinal who thanks to Bill Bidwill Jr I was able to meet.

awesome!!! I got to carry his helmet as a kid at training camp in St. Charles.

 

[anks106]

Show's his ignorance of football. So many rules that opened up the passing game didn't exist in the 60's and 70's. Short passes were much harder to come by because receivers would get mugged going across the middle. Obviously his only point was to inflame some of the poster of the board that actually know something about football before this decade.

This was all before my time, but I know much about the game in the earlier years and Jim Hart was a good QB.

Or maybe he is just a young Card's fan who wanted to point out who special our team is this year. no need for all this negativity on this amazing day.

 

[Totally_Red]

Didn't Jim and Dan Dierdorf own a restaurant in St. Louis at one time?

 

[Spielman]

Didn't Jim and Dan Dierdorf own a restaurant in St. Louis at one time?

Yeah. They've still got a location in the outskirts of St. Louis, but the main one that was within a stone's throw of old Busch Stadium is gone.

 

[RonF]

Those Cardinal heros of ours who played in the 70s didn't get paid the big bucks you see flying around today. Most of these guys worked in the off season as insurance agents and such to get some extra income on their name recognition. Many opened up restaurants when they retired. I'm glad the Cards gave Hart some special recognition, he was one of the greats in his day. How many great games did we see (hear) played between the Cowboys, Giants, or Redskins of that era.

 

[Wildfire]

Being an old timer, I remember when Jim Hart was an undrafted rookie out of Southern IL, if my merory serves me right.

He was, and will always be, one of my favorite Cardinals.

Those were the days, but now we have a NEW day, a day that is way overdue, as we are the NFC West Champs.

 

[Wildfire]

My other all timer favorite Cardinal, Conrad Dobler, who was truely OLD SCHOOL.

 

[JeffGollin]

My Take on #17...

Back in the day, I was thrilled when the Cardinals signed Canadian Football League QB hero, Sam Etcheverry and devestated when he went down with a leg injury and was replaced by Charley Johnson.

Johnson and Browns QB Jim Ryan (formerly of Yale) were considered to be the mental geniuses of the NFL; however (though Johnson had a few pretty good seasons) being a great thinker and a terrific QB don't necessarily go hand in hand. I do remember Charley connecting with Sonny Randle 16 consecutive times against the late Giant CB Dick Lynch.

But a year or three later, I also remember Johnson scrambling down the left sideline and breaking his leg against the Giants.

I'm pretty sure his replacement was Jim Hart, a raw country kid from (I think it was) So. Illinois U. who could throw the ball through a barn door.

It didn't hurt that he had Don Coryell as his HC and an explosive crew of receivers to throw to. It also didn't hurt that he had a Pro Bowl offensive line blocking for him and an unheralded running attack (featuring T Metcalf and J Otis) to take the some of the pressure off him (Check the stats on rushing yards during that period).

The only two negatives that stopped the Cardiac Cards from flying even higher were (a) a propensity to turn over the ball and (b) a less than dominating defense (the roster was dotted with defensive stars, but also lacked talent or had thin depth at other positions).

But when you put the whole deal together, you had a team that perennially challenged Washington and Dallas for the division championship and was respected. It was a fun team to follow.