JJax's increased role

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Tim Duncan is the Donald Trump of the NBA, pure business. Just get the job done right, let everyone else do the promoting.

you do know that the donald had to experience bankruptcy . . . right?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

What do you mean its not his fault, we all can chase any woman we want. I don't give a damn who he dates or marries but who he does indicates what he wants and what he wants is attention.

uh, brandy approached q. q didn't chase brandy. are you telling me if you were single and brandy approached you that you'd be like, "naw, i don't want to date you b/c people will talk" . . . ?!? you crazy.

 

[Cheesebeef]

hating on Q because he happens to date a stunning woman with natural talent and because he displays emotion on the court just screams one thing and one thing only to me... a rac - (ah ha - just kidding!) - OLD TIMER!

Damn coloradosun - stop being such a stick in the mud - did you dislike Barkley because of his emotion or Amare because of his emotion as well?

 

[Chaplin]

Maybe since he's so into having his sports idols be conservative, he should turn to golf.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe since he's so into having his sports idols be conservative, he should turn to golf.

oh man - can you imagine how much his temples would burn when Tiger does that fist pump thing?!

 

[Chaplin]

oh man - can you imagine how much his temples would burn when Tiger does that fist pump thing?!

Not to mention the hot girl he's with just for looks...

 

[coloradosun]

hating on Q because he happens to date a stunning woman with natural talent and because he displays emotion on the court just screams one thing and one thing only to me... a rac - (ah ha - just kidding!) - OLD TIMER!

Damn coloradosun - stop being such a stick in the mud - did you dislike Barkley because of his emotion or Amare because of his emotion as well?

There is one thing I am not and that is a racist. If someone is qualified they should be entitled to anything they work for and let the market determine their value. I grew up on a farm and know the meaning of hard work. I have also made it in the business world because I got along with people not because I did self promoting. I have always been in commission sales and had to earn my money, none of it was guarenteed.

I started following the Suns when they made it to the finals in 1976, the game was played more like a team game back then. That was basketball not basketbrawl. Your generation has grown up on in IN YOUR FACE journalism, music, advertising and sports. You don't have anything to compare this to and that is why you are criticizing me for being an OLD TIMER. You can call me what you want but just give me civility.

Barkley was entertaining the crowd, Q is just entertaining himself. And Amare has toned down his antics, I think he is taking a lead from Duncan instead of Garnett and with good reason. Duncan has a couple of titles, KG can't keep himself in the playoffs.

Isn't there another thread regarding A Q and A with Q and Cutie. Isn't that just fluff for the tabloids.

 

[coloradosun]

Maybe since he's so into having his sports idols be conservative, he should turn to golf.

I am a 1 handicap, if you want to meet me on the links I'll be happy to give you strokes. That is what explains my conservative nature. And yes, I can't stand Tiger's fist pump. It is the in your face attitude that does not display sportsmanship and I think that is what is missing in sports. Just play the damn game. Tiger brought the NBA to the PGA, just give me Fred Couples any day.

 

[coloradosun]

you do know that the donald had to experience bankruptcy . . . right?

Yeah, there are risks in business and it takes more guts to do what he does than getting guarenteed money in the NBA. The Donald picked himself up and got rewarded for it. The producer of Survivor approached him with an idea that has Trump becoming a brand name instead of just a person. Great businss move. I admire that more than what anyone has accomplished in the NBA.

 

[BC867]

Sports are entertainment, just as much as movies and music are.

Exactly. Always have been. Always will.

Sports always competes for the consumer dollar with movies and live entertainment.

It all requires talent (as a sport), but the owners require revenue (business) and that requires drawing a crowd (entertainment).

The Suns and the Jazz have done well for years as conservative teams, being the only game in town.

The Jazz can continue that philosopy and prosper. The Phoenix (Valley of the Sun) market doesn't allow the Suns to do that anymore.

 

[playstation]

coloradosun-
i am glad Q is the way he is and i hope for more of it. in addition, it looks like the people that agree with me far outnumber those who don't, so more of the same

what's more is i'm different in that i'll give Q the benefit of the doubt. I don't even think he's a self-promoter (not that i would mind if he was), but that's because i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, like i would hope others would give to me. it saddens me to know that you can't do the same.

keep in mind, you don't know him at all. to me, it is the height of arrogance to assume you know what other people are thinking and then judge them for that. then you throw your success in business as some sort of justification for your thoughts. granted i'm not a millionaire businessman, but i learned in kindergarten that you don't judge people you don't know. i'm not judging you for saying what you are saying, just trying to give you some food for thought...

 

[Drop D]

At least Q doesn't refer to himself as "The Quentin."

I not sure how anyone can say that "The Donald" is not a self-promoter. He is the Don King of the business world, complete with funny looking hair. He seems to relish the role of a hatchet man. Not the trait of someone with class. (Duncan has always had a reputation of having class)

"The Donald" is married to a supermodel, a celebrity.

"The Donald's" penthouse has more "bling" than a rap star's.

The corporation that declared bankruptcy was a publicly traded co. By that point, he was playing with other people's money.

"The Donald" does shameless self-promotion; it is good business.

Q does his head banging thing; it is hot dogging. Not good business?

I'm sure that Trump's show has improved moral at his business. But, has Q's thing not pumped up his teammates? It pumps up the fans. It is part of the entertainment experience, which translates to putting butts in the seats. That's business. I would argue that business has hurt the sport. The slick marketer, David Stern has focused more on the net profits and less on the product.

I also feel that "basket-brawl" would be more up Trumps alley based on the few episodes of his show that I have had to endure (my wife watches the show).

I believe that I understand what ColoradoSun was saying, though the comparison of Duncan with Trump was not accurate (and an insult to Duncan IMO). They have completely different styles and personalities. Maybe Duncan should have his own catch phrase, like "your shot is rejected" or "your eliminated (from the playoffs)."

As far as the Quote:

"I admire that more than what anyone has accomplished in the NBA."

I would say that I admire Manute Bol and KJ more.
Sorry for the Trump rant, ColoradoSun. It is just a hot button for me. (Don't get me started on Starbucks, unless you want to see the venom spew.)

I do agree that some players take the celebration too far, such as Mutumbo's finger wag. That is taunting, pure and simple.

Don't mean to gang up on you ColoradoSun. We still luv ya!

Go SUNS!

-Dennis

 

[Treesquid PhD]

wow what is this post about?

Anyway, JJ was in the game more because D'Antoni wants to minimize the chance that the Suns fail to dictate tempo. While Leandro is very fast he does play a different PG than Nash, more in the mold of Stephon Marbury, put your head down drive to the hole and kick it out to the 3 point line.

This has by my observations lead to too many quick 3 pts with guys shooting out of their prefered spots. Coach knows no defense is going to shut them down in 7 games, maybe one game or 2 but not a whole series...He knows it is the Suns who slump themselves with poor shot selection. So when Nash is out Coach feels better with JJax and JJ in running the O. Personally I agree, LB seems like a good kid but he is not a point gaurd in the mold the Suns want to have.

I'll bet a coke the Suns sign Breven Knight to a mid level next year to come in and play back up

 

[coloradosun]

Here is where I am coming from, I am from a small town in Iowa. We did not have people who got on their own high horse.

As far as Duncan was concerned, my comparison was made to show that they do their business on an even keel, keeping their emotions in check. It's just business.

I had made a vow not to talk about Q until this summer but cheesebeef brought this up. I now will not even post in regards to him again, I hope that will prevent these threads from getting off topic again.

BTW, I don't patronize Starbucks.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Here is where I am coming from, I am from a small town in Iowa. We did not have people who got on their own high horse.

As far as Duncan was concerned, my comparison was made to show that they do their business on an even keel, keeping their emotions in check. It's just business.

I had made a vow not to talk about Q until this summer but cheesebeef brought this up. I now will not even post in regards to him again, I hope that will prevent these threads from getting off topic again.

BTW, I don't patronize Starbucks.

dude - relax - I said "just kidding" about the racist thing - was just having a little fun with you. But seriously - thwe fact that you made a "vow" not to talk about Q until the summer - even while he's being a eky part of a playoff run should tell you maybe you're taking this whole thing a little too seriously, no?

It's okay to admit that you're wrong - hell - just see Mao's old signature line where I proclaimed Josh McNown to be the SAVIOR - holy great googly moogly was I wrong on that one - or see my reaction to us signing Nash - being able to change your mind doesn't make you look stupid or foolish - it's a sign of intelligence!

 

[TopGamer]

That is what I am saying, it has gone away from being a sport to becoming entertainment.

I understand your point but sports has crossed over to the mainstream. Sports IS entertainment. Dwyane Wade was featured in People Magazine's Most Beautiful list, Kobe has been on the cover of GQ, etc. I think its unfair to relegate these athletes as only basketball players because in essence they are entertainers. I don't care who he is dating and what he wears, as long as it doesn't affect what he does on the court and so far it hasn't. I could care less about headbanging as long as he doesn't get so consumed with showboating that it takes him out of the game. Athletes play into what the fans want. They like to see players show emotion. I understand his style may be an acquired taste but in no way is it cancerous to the team so I don't see why it should be a problem. I think you are being way too nitpicky when you go from criticizing his headbands (who DOESN'T wear those in the NBA?) and socks.

 

[TopGamer]

What do you mean its not his fault, we all can chase any woman we want. I don't give a damn who he dates or marries but who he does indicates what he wants and what he wants is attention.

His personal decisions has nothing to do with his job and its none of our business or place to analyze. I think you are taking it too far and too seriously when you criticize the choices he makes as a man.

 

[Chaplin]

I find it ludicrous that the fact that he's engaged to Brandy makes him out to be some self-promoting fool. I don't think Q made Brandy popular. And I don't think he put a gun to the heads of all her fans. Besides, who he's engaged to has nothing to do with the odds of a shot going through a basket.

 

[Drop D]

Glad to hear that you don't patronize Evil Empire Starbucks, ColoradoSun.

Pls forgive my Adult ADD for getting off topic.

I will save my Starbucks rant if by some miracle we face Seattle.

The Starbucks topic detour in the Cards portion of this site was pretty funny.

By the way, Spurs appear to be taking care of business so far in Game 1.

Radmanovic looks to be out for the playoffs. He turned his ankle and had to be carried off the floor. It looked about the same as Duncan's injury late in the regular season......but this is the playoffs, so maybe not.

-Dennis