Nelson is over rated. Last time he played Julio he had 113 yards at 16 yards per catch.
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Nelson is over rated. Last time he played Julio he had 113 yards at 16 yards per catch.
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I bet you actually think he got all of those yards on Nelson a whole 5 years ago too.
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It's going to be a very tough week 1.
Nope. Most of them though for about 80 of those yards, because I watched them before I posted. What's your point?
Nelson IS over rated. Massively so. He's been a league average CB his whole career. He's had 2 seasons out of 6 with a PFF grade over 70. He allowed a 97 passer rating last year on the 3rd best defense in the league for a team that cut him with a year left on his deal.
When he signed a 3 year contract in 2019 it was for $7.5m per year when top CB's were getting $16m+.
By any metric he's average at best yet there must be 100 "We should sign Steve Nelson" posts here as if he's a sure fire CB1. He's a decent CB2 at best.
I don't really mind it. If I'm going to play vs the Titans with Julio I'd rather do it in week 1 before he has much chemistry with Tannehill and is fully to grips with the playbook.
And I have a feeling this is going to be one of those moves that upsets the balance of the team, at least at first. Titans had a pretty simple ethos before. Run it with Henry, when we throw it, throw it to Brown. Now they have to find 150 targets for Julio. That's going to mean less targets for Brown and less carries for Henry.
Plus, as some have said here before, this Titans team was already a team that got worse this off season on paper. Their defense still ain't great. If we are going to be a playoff contender we have to beat teams with players like Julio Jones.
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Of course the Titans 1st vs. Cards. Henry + Jones + east coast early start = certain death.
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I just wanted to make sure because you have a habit of not doing this.
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Nice trade for Tennessee. Julio is a solid #2
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Lol that gm gonna be like 48 41 like a pro bowl gm... should be entertaining at least lol pray for cards corners
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I would be a bit more worried by the presence of Julio had the Titans managed to retain Cory Davis who went to the Jets in FA. At age 25 in 2020 his stats were as follows: 65/984 - 5 TDs and 14 catches over 20 yds in 14 games (12 starts).
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Have the Titans done anything to improve their pathetic D? We need to score 35+ & I think we can!
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Having played his entire career in the AFC South, I think Watt will be almost a coach for week 1.
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Miami had no line. Tannehill was always running for his life. The Cards will need to muster a rush that makes him feel like he’s back there. He played very controlled last year. The Cards can’t afford to allow that in this game. They need to get to him early & often.
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I think the Cardinals will get to him often. The question is will often be enough?
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I don't see how having two pretty top-tier WRs is a bad thing. Corey Davis got his last year, and Henry could use a bit of a breather as the primary option anyways.
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Q was a great a WR, no matter the sour grapes at his leaving... nobody looks at the Raves as mediocre, so how is that take legit
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This is a QB driven league. Kyler in his third year better be better than freaking Tannyhill... if we lose (remember we play in the NFC West, and frankly fear them less than our divisions foes), it will probably be about Kliff and not our talent IMO
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I was referring to the current Ravens with Jackson as QB. The Ravens are a run driven team. Until Jackson proves he can beat you with his arm, the great WR’s are hesitant to sign with Baltimore.
I didn't say it was a bad thing. I said it doesn't really concern me. I'm not clutching my pearls and shouting "Oh lordy, lordy. Julio Jones in game 1 with a new QB, new playbook, coming off injury to a team with the 3rd highest run rate in the league means sure fire defeat".
Good teams beat teams with good players. If we can't beat them with Julio odds are we wouldn't beat them without.
I'd also remind you we beat the Falcons with Julio in Kliff's first year with a CB trio of Murphy, Kevin Peterson and Tramaine Brock and a receiving core of Larry, Byrd, Sherfield and Cooper.
I'll take Hopkins, Green, Kirk and Moore vs Janoris Jenkins, Caleb Farley, Breon Borders and Kevin Byard all day, every day over Julio, Brown, Reynolds and Fitzpatrick vs Butler, Murphy, Dennard/Alford and Budda.
In fact I kinda like they added Julio. It put's the spotlight on this game in week 1. It will have national attention because of Julio. If we win, it put's the Cards in the spotlight for once.
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Why the Julio Jones trade to Titans happened - Sports Illustrated
interesting tidbit from SI on the Jones trade :
"The Falcons did wind up talking to all four NFC West teams about a Jones trade, but never got a real offer from any of them."
if you dont want to click through: a complicating factor in acquiring Jones was that at least twice since signing an extension with the Falcons (and maybe a third) -- Jones went to the Falcons and wanted more money within 12 months of doing a new deal. Teams were concerned that the contract value they are acquiring is the floor money wise
interesting tidbit from SI on the Jones trade :
"The Falcons did wind up talking to all four NFC West teams about a Jones trade, but never got a real offer from any of them."
if you dont want to click through: a complicating factor in acquiring Jones was that at least twice since signing an extension with the Falcons (and maybe a third) -- Jones went to the Falcons and wanted more money within 12 months of doing a new deal. Teams were concerned that the contract value they are acquiring is the floor money wise
I guarantee Jones asks for money next off season.
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Does this make any sense?
The Titans go into their first game with a plan to fool the Cardinals and plant seeds of doubt for their upcoming opponents. They know, as do all teams, that when you pass the ball only three things can happen, with two of them bad. So, they game plan for their bread and butter, running the ball with DH. But those sneaky Cardinals have planned for this possibility by playing Hicks and Collins at ILB and moving IS to OLB. Of course if Hicks is let go before the season starts, you can excuse the question.
One other thing. There is bound to be a great deal of interest in our opening game, and I'm wondering if the NFL changes the time from 1PM ET. Is it possible?
The Titans go into their first game with a plan to fool the Cardinals and plant seeds of doubt for their upcoming opponents. They know, as do all teams, that when you pass the ball only three things can happen, with two of them bad. So, they game plan for their bread and butter, running the ball with DH. But those sneaky Cardinals have planned for this possibility by playing Hicks and Collins at ILB and moving IS to OLB. Of course if Hicks is let go before the season starts, you can excuse the question.
One other thing. There is bound to be a great deal of interest in our opening game, and I'm wondering if the NFL changes the time from 1PM ET. Is it possible?
2 small market teams one coming off a losing season. no way that time gets changed.
