Jurecki Wed AM

[MadCardDisease]

Notice that all four guys that are mentioned come from the areas of greatest depth on the Cardinals:

CJ = Already have Boldin, Fitz and Johnson
AP = Already have Edge, Shipp, Arrington
Branch = Already have Watson
Landry = Already have Wilson, Holt and Francisco

Poker my friends! The Cardinals are leaking this "info" in hope of landing a big trade should some team really want one of these guys.

 

[Heucrazy]

This is going to be an intresting draft. Hoping for Thomas but if he gets taken then having no idea what we're going to do is going to be exciting. Plus if he gets taken the agnst over whether or not Ugoh or Staley will be there in the 2nd. I love the Draft.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I assume Lawrence (Larry) Fitzgerald.

 

[lobo]

The more I read about Levi Brown the more he reminds me of Leonard Davis. Good run blocker, inconsistent, lacks aggresiveness, probably better suited to Right Tackle, once he locks on the defender is done...

Brown even started as a Defensive lineman before being switched to LT in college just like BIGG.

You may be right, albeit I don't really see that. I will hold steadfast and hope that if Thomas is gone (boo) we should look to trade into the late single digits if possible and go for Brown. We need LB very badly as well, however the draft is deep there and we will get value in 2/3 at that spot. I would wait until 3 and take another lineman in round 2. i

One thing only one person knows..what is in Brown's head and heart.

 

[lobo]

Notice that all four guys that are mentioned come from the areas of greatest depth on the Cardinals:

CJ = Already have Boldin, Fitz and Johnson
AP = Already have Edge, Shipp, Arrington
Branch = Already have Watson
Landry = Already have Wilson, Holt and Francisco

Poker my friends! The Cardinals are leaking this "info" in hope of landing a big trade should some team really want one of these guys.[/quote


Good Call. I give you cred for this, as I feel the same way. The problem is every team knows what we need and who we want, so we ain't goona' fool nobody. Any team in front of us can take anyone, albeit Oakland need a QB very badly, but even they can fool us and take (say) Johnson who is without doubt the best player available.

I believe when you unscramble the eggs (boo) Detroit is going to take Thomas and we will have to figure out the best way to max our value and still get Brown.

 

[football karma]

Notice that all four guys that are mentioned come from the areas of greatest depth on the Cardinals:

CJ = Already have Boldin, Fitz and Johnson
AP = Already have Edge, Shipp, Arrington
Branch = Already have Watson
Landry = Already have Wilson, Holt and Francisco

Poker my friends! The Cardinals are leaking this "info" in hope of landing a big trade should some team really want one of these guys.

I doubt it.

If you really wanted to place a "leak" that would might influence other teams, you would do it to Peter King, or at least the AZ Republic -- not a local morning sports talk host.

Also -- FWIW-- given that the teams scouts have just showed up in Tempe this week for purposes of putting together the draft board, I dont think the Cards have an "official" consensus yet.

 

[jefftheshark]

If you really wanted to place a "leak" that would might influence other teams, you would do it to Peter King, or at least the AZ Republic -- not a local morning sports talk host.

Or you post it here, and it gets picked up by PFT.

The Shark

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The more I read about Levi Brown the more he reminds me of Leonard Davis. Good run blocker, inconsistent, lacks aggresiveness, probably better suited to Right Tackle, once he locks on the defender is done...

Brown even started as a Defensive lineman before being switched to LT in college just like BIGG.

I look at Brown the same way you do .. but is that so bad .. ?? with good coaching early in his career it could make a big difference in motivating him ..

 

[JeffGollin]

I look at Brown the same way you do .. but is that so bad .. ?? with good coaching early in his career it could make a big difference in motivating him ..

I agree with the original point and Bullhead's response. While the signing of Gandy was far from earthshattering, I do feel it gives us enough wriggle room depth-wise to pass on Brown if the coaches are as leery as we are. (Note - that doesn't apply to Thomas. If he's there at #5, I think we grab him).

I also agree that Branch is a serious option based on previous Wiz comments. It would be ironic that we drafted him on the heels of his teammate and linemate predecessor Watson, but if he's three rounds better, why not grab him at #5 if he's that good? Also - there's nothing wrong with a little depth at a physically demanding position where you need a couple of quality guys to spell one another.

 

[BACH]

Watson is never going to be a guy that's going to play 35 snaps a game. That's why he was still available on the second day of the draft. If you want him to be an impact player, you only put him in the lineup 20-25 times a game. That's just how he is, and he'll likely always be that way, no matter how much quality time he spends with John Lott.

Branch is a guy who can play 35+ snaps a game, especially at NT. If Whis looks at Branch and sees Casey Hampton, it's hard to disagree with him. A 3-4 set (if we take Branch at 5 it's almost a guarantee that this is Pendy's last season in Arizona and the team will be switching to a 3-4 base in the next two years) with Branch in the middle, Watson/Dockett on one end and Clancy on the other would be very stout, especially if you could sub in someone like Jonathon Lewis and Dockett on obvious passing downs, since they can be disruptive.

But Casey Hampton's former back-up Clancy is already on the roster. Isn't he good enough to fill in behind Watson?

 

[NuttinButTDs]

For what its worth-- Jurecki is talking Cardinal draft this morning on 910--

he says that the Cardinals have identified four guys who they think will be outstanding players at their position:

Calvin Johnson
Adrian Peterson
Alan Branch
Leron Landry

He said it doesnt mean they dont like or wouldnt draft Joe Thomas if he was there, but those were the four names he heard they really like.

Mis-information at best. Trade Bait

 

[kerouac9]

But Casey Hampton's former back-up Clancy is already on the roster. Isn't he good enough to fill in behind Watson?

No. Mainly because Clancy is playing defensive end in that alignment.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that Watson isn't a starter and likely never will be.

 

[lobo]

I agree with the original point and Bullhead's response. While the signing of Gandy was far from earthshattering, I do feel it gives us enough wriggle room depth-wise to pass on Brown if the coaches are as leery as we are.

We never spent the money on staff, that includes quality assistant and a "real" scouting department. Those days are gone, and a non emoitional look at the staff certainly indicates a solid group is in place today.

My point. I have never sat in a draft preparation meeting with the Cardinals, but I have to feel that with the number of scouts, assisants etc that we now have, our ability to evaluate a Levi Brown should not take on the look of the Manhattan Project. We are looking at about 40 football people to draw upon. It is ultimately the decision to say who we will take comes from one person, albeit input from staff. If Brown is the choice, I have to feel it was done with all the due dilligence one might expect.

 

[Captain Matt]

So who did Jurecki marry this morning?

Another dude.........

 

[john h]

I didn't hear the segment, but from the original post the phrasing "guys they think will be outstanding at their positions" doesn't necessarily mean they're targeting them.

I think everyone in the world thinks the Georgia Tech receiver is the guy who will have the bigest and most immediate impact in the draft. Peterson is certainly going to be the first RB taken. No news here so putting that info out is not going to fool anyone. The Cards sometimes fool themselves ala trading down for a guy they did not get. Who fooled who.

 

[kerouac9]

This morning Jurecki and LaCava were saying that the Cards were "discussing" and "considering" trading down. Sounds like big news. I wonder if they'd even bother having a conversation if the Cards were "discussing" and "considering" exercising the 5th pick in the draft. Even I don't think that Arizona should be closing any doors at this point.

 

[vinnymac]

Having Watson and Branch team up again sounds pretty good to me.

 

[Duckjake]

Having Watson and Branch team up again sounds pretty good to me.

One question. I've heard talk that both those guys are supposed to have problems with motivation/taking plays off. If thats true would it be a good idea to have them back together?

 

[vinnymac]

One question. I've heard talk that both those guys are supposed to have problems with motivation/taking plays off. If thats true would it be a good idea to have them back together?

The reason why i like the idea is because they played together and have that chemistery already. I am not going to jump on the Branch bandwagon. I won't be disappointed eithier if the cardinals did draft Branch.