Just how many injuries did we have last season?

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A Bears fan on NFL World just posted this...


Yes, I am completely saying that the Bears had more injuries than the Cardinals. By a long shot.

I'm only going to list the starters.

Offense:
QB Jim Miller - missed 6 games
QB Chris Chandler - Replaced Miller due to injury, missed 2 games
TE John Davis - missed 6 games
OT Marc Colombo - missed 5 games
C Olin Kreutz - missed 1 game
TE Dustin Lyman - missed 4 games
FB Stanley Pritchett - missed 4 games
WR David Terrell - missed 11 games
RB Anthony Thomas - missed 4 games
OG Rex Tucker - missed 5 games
WR Marcus Robinson - missed 1 game

Defense:
LB Warrick Holdman - missed 12 games
DE Phillip Daniels - missed 4 games
CB RW McQuarters - missed 7 games
DE Bryan Robinson - missed 2 games
DT Keith Traylor - missed 2 games
DT Ted Washington - missed 15 games

Total: 91 games missed by starters in 2002, 49 by offense, and 42 by defense.

This isn't even including the players that "start" on special teams.

So yes, the Bears had MANY more injuries than the Cardinals or any other team in football.
 

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I think the Bears did have more injuries than the Cardinals, but I don't think you can say by a "long shot."
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
A Bears fan on NFL World just posted this...


Yes, I am completely saying that the Bears had more injuries than the Cardinals. By a long shot.

I'm only going to list the starters.

Offense:
QB Jim Miller - missed 6 games
QB Chris Chandler - Replaced Miller due to injury, missed 2 games
TE John Davis - missed 6 games
OT Marc Colombo - missed 5 games
C Olin Kreutz - missed 1 game
TE Dustin Lyman - missed 4 games
FB Stanley Pritchett - missed 4 games
WR David Terrell - missed 11 games
RB Anthony Thomas - missed 4 games
OG Rex Tucker - missed 5 games
WR Marcus Robinson - missed 1 game

Defense:
LB Warrick Holdman - missed 12 games
DE Phillip Daniels - missed 4 games
CB RW McQuarters - missed 7 games
DE Bryan Robinson - missed 2 games
DT Keith Traylor - missed 2 games
DT Ted Washington - missed 15 games

Total: 91 games missed by starters in 2002, 49 by offense, and 42 by defense.

This isn't even including the players that "start" on special teams.

So yes, the Bears had MANY more injuries than the Cardinals or any other team in football.

Dont know exacts on # of games but I think we compare to the Bears. This is from memory only mind you, All of these guys missed some real time:

TJ
Boston (8 games)
Gilmore ( a bunch)
Jenkins (a bunch)
Clement (whole season)
Dishman
Kendall ( a few)
Shipp (2 games)

Fisher (whole season)
Davis
Fredrickson (a bunch)
Starks (8 games)

I know theres more too!
 

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We had it pretty bad!
 

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Barrett could be added to my list too I just think I remember him missing a couple of games with back problems????
 

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I'm guessing here on the Number of games missed.

Offense

David Boston 9 games
Martay Jenkins 5 games
Bryan Gilmore 9 games
Josh Scobey 16 games
Marcell Shipp 4 games
Thomas Jones 5 games
Chris Dishman 3 games
John Fina 7 games
Mike Gruttadauria 7 games
Anthony Clement 15 games
Leonard Davis 2 games
Pete Kendall 2 games
LJ Shelton 1 game(had bad ankle sprain the entire season)

Defense

Duane Starks 9 games
Alton Moore 16 games
Rob Fredrickson 7 games
Levar Fisher 10 games
Russell Davis 5 games
 

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Interesting Homework.

I've only looked at the offense, as that is where we got injured the worst.

Thomas Jones - 7 games
Marcell Shipp - 1 game
David Boston - 8 games
Frank Sanders - 4 games
MarTay Jenkins - 8 games (per NFL.com)
Anthony Clement - 15 games
Leonard Davis - 1 game
Gruttadaria - 7 games (estimate, haven't found exact number yet)
Pete Kendall - 4 games.

All these guys were legit starters on offense last year. That is 55 games, just on Offense, and I'm sure I'm probably missing someone else that deserves mention.

Give 'em Hell Sec.

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Originally posted by MadCardDisease
I'm guessing here on the Number of games missed.

Offense

David Boston 9 games
Martay Jenkins 5 games
Bryan Gilmore 9 games
Josh Scobey 16 games
Marcell Shipp 4 games
Thomas Jones 5 games
Chris Dishman 3 games
John Fina 7 games
Mike Gruttadauria 7 games
Anthony Clement 15 games
Leonard Davis 2 games
Pete Kendall 2 games
LJ Shelton 1 game(had bad ankle sprain the entire season)

Defense

Duane Starks 9 games
Alton Moore 16 games
Rob Fredrickson 7 games
Levar Fisher 10 games
Russell Davis 5 games

Good list although I would count scobey or Moore since they werent even on the 53 man roster. Plus LJ was the only o-lineman to not miss any time. I think Big only missed one game but I cant remember why???? Didnt roundtree have to play T that game???
 

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Originally posted by Capital Card
Interesting Homework.

I've only looked at the offense, as that is where we got injured the worst.

Thomas Jones - 7 games
Marcell Shipp - 1 game
David Boston - 8 games
Frank Sanders - 4 games
MarTay Jenkins - 8 games (per NFL.com)
Anthony Clement - 15 games
Leonard Davis - 1 game
Gruttadaria - 7 games (estimate, haven't found exact number yet)
Pete Kendall - 4 games.

All these guys were legit starters on offense last year. That is 55 games, just on Offense, and I'm sure I'm probably missing someone else that deserves mention.

Give 'em Hell Sec.

Go Cards!!!

I forgot about Grutts and Sanders!

Im sorry Section 11 but the more I look at it we were just as bad if not even worse on O!
 

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I had read something during the offseason that mentioned the Bears lost the most games due to injury but the Cards had the most players land on IR which of course ends seasons.

If you are going to compare, you have to list only starters (Scobey and Alton Moore wouldn't count). Also I though Shelton didn't miss a game last year but maybe he did miss one.

Washington technically only missed 14 games since he was injured in the game week 2. Some would also argue that Pritchett isn;t a starter since he only started 2 games all last year but he did play in all 16.

In the end though, clearly injuries KILLED both teams last year. That much cannot be disputed.
 

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Nah the Bears are gonna win 11 games...Kordell is gonna be a Pro Bowler this year...Blah, Blah, Blah...I swear all these preseason opinions drive me nuts sometimes...everyone is going to the super bowl! Atleast years of mediocrity and failure have humbled most Cardinal fans...we're usually pretty honest in our predictions for the team....
 

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Again it depends on how it is really figured but info here shows the Cards lost 95 games to injury:

http://www.azcardinals.com/team/coachdetails.php?cid=11

Last season, the undaunted Sullivan, faced with the unprecedented loss of his top four receivers (David Boston, Bryan Gilmore, MarTay Jenkins, and Frank Sanders) for 29 of the team’s Last season, the undaunted Sullivan, faced with the unprecedented loss of his top four receivers (David Boston, Bryan Gilmore, MarTay Jenkins, and Frank Sanders) for 29 of the team’s 95 starter games lost to injury, cobbled together an unheralded yet representative corps of inexperienced receivers—Jason McAddley, Kevin Kasper, Arnold Jackson, Nathan Poole, Jake Soliday. McAddley—that caught 62 passes for 731 yards and six touchdowns. starter games lost to injury, cobbled together an unheralded yet representative corps of inexperienced receivers—Jason McAddley, Kevin Kasper, Arnold Jackson, Nathan Poole, Jake Soliday. McAddley—that caught 62 passes for 731 yards and six touchdowns
 

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Originally posted by AZCB34

Last season, the undaunted Sullivan, faced with the unprecedented loss of his top four receivers (David Boston, Bryan Gilmore, MarTay Jenkins, and Frank Sanders) for 29 of the team’s Last season, the undaunted Sullivan, faced with the unprecedented loss of his top four receivers (David Boston, Bryan Gilmore, MarTay Jenkins, and Frank Sanders) for 29 of the team’s 95 starter games lost to injury, cobbled together an unheralded yet representative corps of inexperienced receivers—Jason McAddley, Kevin Kasper, Arnold Jackson, Nathan Poole, Jake Soliday. McAddley—that caught 62 passes for 731 yards and six touchdowns. starter games lost to injury, cobbled together an unheralded yet representative corps of inexperienced receivers—Jason McAddley, Kevin Kasper, Arnold Jackson, Nathan Poole, Jake Soliday. McAddley—that caught 62 passes for 731 yards and six touchdowns

Where's my medication. I seem to have lost the ability to comprehend what I read. :confused:

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Here is the best info I could find on Bears injuries. Unfortunately no link available since it isn;t in archives any longer. FYI Mike Mulligan is a Bears beat writer for the SunTimes:

Bears looking to gain from '02 pain

July 27, 2003

BY MIKE MULLIGAN STAFF REPORTER


Injuries in the NFL are as inevitable as death and taxes. Expectations for success aren't supposed to change when players go down, and injuries are never to be used as an excuse for failure. But with the Bears looking to shake off the emotional trauma of last season's 4-12 campaign--a nine-game slide from the 13-3 season of 2001--the return of injured players is regarded as tangible evidence that this season will be different.

Defensive coordinator Greg Blache acknowledged as much on Friday in Bourbonnais at the opening of Bears training camp.

"I am totally convinced we will be a better football team because of all our injuries last year,'' Blache said. "The young guys that had to go on the field and play got better. The guys that missed the season will have some hunger coming back. The lack of success we had as a unit is going to create some want and give you an edge. That's the gist of what I'm telling these guys: 'Whatever happens to you, use it as a springboard, as a stepping-stone.'''

The hangover from last year's injuries still clouds the minds of many in the organization, even if no one wants to admit it. Offensive tackle Marc Colombo still isn't cleared to play after undergoing a second offseason surgery, and tight end John Davis is still nursing the sore back that ended his season with five games to play.

All told, the Bears ended the 2002 season with 17 players out because of injuries, including 11 on injured reserve. The defense couldn't stop the run after losing defensive tackle Ted Washington in Week 2. The offense stopped scoring when wide receiver David Terrell went down in Week 5 and stopped running the ball when guard Rex Tucker was lost the same day.

"By the end of the year, we were like an NFL Europe team out there,'' center Olin Kreutz said. "I didn't know half the guys in the huddle. Not a knock on [Henry] Burris, but he was calling some wrong plays at times against Tampa Bay [in the season finale]. It got really ugly.''

Forty-seven players started, and only five players--Jerry Azumah, Brian Urlacher, Mike Green, Mike Brown and Big Cat Williams--started every game. Williams, who was waived in the offseason, played through injuries all season. And he wasn't alone. Defensive end Phillip Daniels and cornerback R.W. McQuarters were injured in the season opener, missed three games and played hurt all year. Defensive tackle Bryan Robinson injured both his wrists in a household fall before the season started and never regained top strength.

The Bears used 15 different starting lineups on offense and 11 on defense. Three quarterbacks started, and four played by the time the season ended. Quarterback Jim Miller finally went on injured reserve for the last two games, but he played most of the year with a bad shoulder--so bad that he couldn't throw in practice or even warm up before games.

"Every Monday when you came in, you'd check the training room first to see who was in there and who wouldn't be available the next week,'' Brown said. "We were losing someone every week. A lot of core guys.''

It was an extraordinary number of injuries. In the entire NFL, just over 150 players ended the season on injured reserve, just over five players per team. The Bears more than doubled that because of many factors, from old-fashioned bad luck to an entire schedule on the road with eight regular-season games in Champaign at Memorial Stadium while Soldier Field was rebuilt.

"I didn't feel like it was a safe surface to play on,'' Brown said. "It was good in the sense that it's not like regular Astroturf, but in Champaign sometimes the field would actually move. The carpet would move under you, then it was like it grabbed you.''

None of the Bears was enthralled with the AstroPlay surface at Memorial Stadium, which Brown said is inferior to Field Turf, the surface used in some NFL cities and one that Brown played on during his days at Nebraska.

The Bears played their first 11 games and 13 total on some form of artificial surface a year ago. With the return to Soldier Field this year--after two preseason "home'' games in Champaign--the Bears will play only four of their 16-game schedule on artificial surfaces--two in domes in Minnesota and New Orleans and two on Field Turf in Detroit and Seattle.

Blache dismisses the turf talk as irrelevant, pointing out that the Green Bay Packers suffered plenty of injuries last year despite playing their home games on grass. But Blache admits that it's a slippery slope when the injury bug bites.

"Continuity goes, confidence goes and it snowballs on you,'' he said.

That's why it's better to have a positive thought in your head. There might be no legitimate evidence to support the feeling, but the general attitude among players seems to be that the team suffered through its share of bad luck a year ago and clear sailing is now ahead. The odds, if not the football gods, are now in their favor.

"It hit us bad last year,'' Terrell said. "It was like we were in the middle of the ocean and tornados hit us and hurricanes got us. ... It was the perfect storm, and we were sinking. But we're floating now. It's behind us.''

Terrell wasn't supposed to be on the board when the Bears picked him with the eighth overall selection in 2001, but teams passed on him early because of concerns about a stress fracture in his foot, the same foot he finally broke last year.

"I just played through it because that's what you do in football, but now it's fixed and it's no longer in the back of my mind,'' Terrell said.

Tight end Dustin Lyman blew out his knee while blocking on the punt team. He had surgery on the knee in college and figures now that he was playing all along on a knee that needed another procedure without even knowing it.

"I was wearing a knee brace, and I figured that was just how your knee was supposed to feel after [the earlier] surgery,'' Lyman said. "But after the second surgery, it helped me so much. For the first time, both my knees felt good. I feel like I am running faster, my routes are better and my blocking is better.''

KNOCKED OUT

The health and good fortune of the 2001 season were nowhere to be found in 2002. The Bears used 47 different starters last season and had only five players start every game. Here's a look at the 11 players who went on injured
reserve in 2002, the six whose season was ended by injury and the other key starters who missed time.


INJURED RESERVE

*With games

missed

T. Washington 14

Bobby Gray 13

W. Holdman 12

David Terrell 11

Rex Tucker 11

Reggie Austin 7

Marc Colombo 6

Todd McMillon 6

Jim Miller 6

Dustin Lyman 4

A. Thomas 4

SEASON ENDED BY INJURY

*With games

missed

Damon Moore 10

Chris Chandler 7

John Davis 6

Christian Peter 4

Bryan Knight 1

Keith Traylor 1

MISSED STARTS

R.W. McQuarters 7

Phillip Daniels 4

Olin Kreutz 1

Chris Villarrial 1
 

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Anthony Clement* - 14(one DNP and one as a substitute)
Tom Burke* - 10
Bryan Gilmore* - 9
Lavar Fisher* - 9
David Boston* - 8
John Fina* - 8
Mike Gruttadauria* - 8
Martay Jenkins* - 8
Thomas Jones* - 7(One early and 6 after the hand incident)
Rob Fredrickson* - 6
Duane Starks - 6
Joel Makovicka - 4?(3 injured one INA)
Dennis McKinley - 4
Frank Sanders* - 4
Pete Kendall* - 3(plus one DNP due to shortage of bodies)
Dave Barrett - 2
Renaldo Hill - 2
Adrian Wilson - 2(First and Last)
Leonard Davis* - 1
Chris Dishman - 1(plus one DNP due to shortage of bodies)
Barron Tanner - 1
Lavar Woods - 1

Total - 116 games.

*(ended season on IR)

Also Alton Moore, Josh Scobey, Anthony White, Andrew Bowers started last season on the IR.
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It was compilation from the Gamebooks from NFL.com.

It should be close to true, except we know the Gamebooks
contain errors.
 

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Both teams were obviously hurt BIGTIME. But the one aspect I haven't see yet so I'll mention is how many players of the SAME POSITION get hurt.

What I mean by this, it seems the bears injuries were balanced throughout their lineup more so than the cards. The cards were decimated by injuries. Losing you top 4 wr's...and wasn't it 5 of top 6 really hurts. The dropoff from Boston to Nathan Poole is 100X greater than miller to chandler to whoever. We were decimated at wr and ol (but played amazingly well at ol considering),

The bears starting 3 qb's were all basically the same talent level imo or at least not too far from each other. Losing those 2 doesn't really hurt your football team too much because neither was really going to be any good to begin with.

Warrick holdman and washington were huge losses for the bears, and I don't know the drop off, but it was probably pretty huge.

But imagine if about half the bears defense was either fighting to not be on the practice squad at the beginning or were on the practice squad at some point during the season and that is what the cards offense was last year. Our practice squaders were starting!

Both teams were hit hard, but I really think the losses the cards had hurt worse. But anyways its in the past and here's to having an relatively injury free season to both our squads.
 
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