Just say NO to Bulger!!!

[vinnymac]

I will just stick with my opinion and you can stick with yours. name me 60

 

[Zeno]

I will just stick with my opinion and you can stick with yours. name me 60

Is comprehension really that difficult for you? I never said 60 better than Bulger, I said JUST BECAUSE BULGER IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE DOESN'T MAKE ME WANT HIM...there are about 60 QBs out there better than what we currently have and I don't want most of them either.

About any starter in the CFL, Arena League, UFL, multiple incoming rookies, and probably every NFL back up is better than DA, Hall & Skelton...you can find your own 60.

 

[desertdawg]

Is comprehension really that difficult for you? I never said 60 better than Bulger, I said JUST BECAUSE BULGER IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE DOESN'T MAKE ME WANT HIM...there are about 60 QBs out there better than what we currently have and I don't want most of them either.

About any starter in the CFL, Arena League, UFL, multiple incoming rookies, and probably every NFL back up is better than DA, Hall & Skelton...you can find your own 60.

Quit lumping Skelton in with those guys, every thing else , ...carry on. (just bad juju)

 

[Fiasco]

2009 Rams are not much different than the 2010 Rams

Bulger 2009 5 TDs 6 INTs 56% YPA 5.9 (9 Games because he is brittle)
Bradford 2010 18 TDs 15 INTs 60% YPA 6.0

Leading rusher in 2009 Jackson Leading rusher in 2010 Jackson
Leading receiver in 2009 Avery(Amendiola #2) Leading Receiver in 2010 Amediola

Coach the same both seasons.

Its not like Bulger hasn't played football since 2006 he just hasn't played GOOD football since 2006

Bulger was aleady beat down by the seasons leading up to 2009.

I'd take him for depth in a heartbeat.

 

[mojorizen7]

Bulger was aleady beat down by the seasons leading up to 2009.

This.
Bulger was taking hits as far back as his pro bowl year in 2004. A Martz QB gets hit...period.

After Martz left and the groceries ran out after years of poor drafting Bulger just flat out got battered and a little shell shocked. The dude's tough,and he still has one of the quickest releases i've ever seen. His deep ball was never pretty,but he was accurate with just about everything else he threw.

A year off(in Baltimore) has surely done his body some good, i would think.
He has the talent to be a quality stop-gap QB somewhere....but IMO Arizona needs to stay away from the word's stop-gap solution at QB.

just my 2 cents on that.

 

[desertdawg]

This.
Bulger was taking hits as far back as his pro bowl year in 2004. A Martz QB gets hit...period.

After Martz left and the groceries ran out after years of poor drafting Bulger just flat out got battered and a little shell shocked. The dude's tough,and he still has one of the quickest releases i've ever seen. His deep ball was never pretty,but he was accurate with just about everything else he threw.

A year off(in Baltimore) has surely done his body some good, i would think.
He has the talent to be a quality stop-gap QB somewhere....but IMO Arizona needs to stay away from the word's stop-gap solution at QB.

just my 2 cents on that.

I am almost positive you said some where in here not to take Bulger (maybe sabtotage). Don't make me look for it homie, not my strong suit.
I think Bulger would make it a couple games, start to look good and then get smashed.

 

[Hypothesis]

There was a report awhile ago that the Cardinals are not very high on his list anyhow. He stated that he wanted to go to a team that ran the ball a lot and had a powerful defense, the two things we're lacking at the moment.

 

[desertdawg]

There was a report awhile ago that the Cardinals are not very high on his list anyhow. He stated that he wanted to go to a team that ran the ball a lot and had a powerful defense, the two things we're lacking at the moment.

Dang, if we get Harbaughed by Bulger, we suck bad.

 

[mojorizen7]

I am almost positive you said some where in here not to take Bulger (maybe sabtotage). Don't make me look for it homie, not my strong suit.
I think Bulger would make it a couple games, start to look good and then get smashed.

Its a tricky situation in AZ. There's some outstanding veteran talent here that you make risk losing if you go with drafting a rookie QB #5,or giving Skelton the job......thus rebuilding somewhat.

The flip side is if you bring in a stop-gap guy like McNabb,Bulger,Vince Young(who's not so young anymore ),Kolb(who's thrown only 11 TD's in 19 career games)......what is that going to accomplish? It may allow you to keep your vets interested but is that whats best for the franchise in the long run?

Tough situation.

Honestly,i do like what i've seen from Skelton. I think he's a very worthy project,but are Fitz,Wilson,Dockett and friends willing to endure a young QB?...whether it be Skelton or drafting a QBOTF with the #5 pick?

 

[desertdawg]

Its a tricky situation in AZ. There's some outstanding veteran talent here that you make risk losing if you go with drafting a rookie QB #5,or giving Skelton the job......thus rebuilding somewhat.

The flip side is if you bring in a stop-gap guy like McNabb,Bulger,Vince Young(who's not so young anymore ),Kolb(who's thrown only 11 TD's in 19 career games)......what is that going to accomplish? It may allow you to keep your vets interested but is that whats best for the franchise in the long run?

Tough situation.

Honestly,i do like what i've seen from Skelton. I think he's a very worthy project,but are Fitz,Wilson,Dockett and friends willing to endure a young QB?...whether it be Skelton or drafting a QBOTF with the #5 pick?

Right on, truth is you don't want Bulger on your team for a reason, same reason why I don't want him here. He would give Skelton or what ever draft pick some time, but that could end in the first game. He is smart but so is Kitna, I am hoping for a better vet to go with Skelton and said rookie. Not McNaab or Young either, I don't buy into the anything is better than last year (thank God it is last year now).

 

[vinnymac]

Is comprehension really that difficult for you? I never said 60 better than Bulger, I said JUST BECAUSE BULGER IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE DOESN'T MAKE ME WANT HIM...there are about 60 QBs out there better than what we currently have and I don't want most of them either.

About any starter in the CFL, Arena League, UFL, multiple incoming rookies, and probably every NFL back up is better than DA, Hall & Skelton...you can find your own 60.

If you can't name 60 then don't say you can.

 

[vinnymac]

Its a tricky situation in AZ. There's some outstanding veteran talent here that you make risk losing if you go with drafting a rookie QB #5,or giving Skelton the job......thus rebuilding somewhat.

The flip side is if you bring in a stop-gap guy like McNabb,Bulger,Vince Young(who's not so young anymore ),Kolb(who's thrown only 11 TD's in 19 career games)......what is that going to accomplish? It may allow you to keep your vets interested but is that whats best for the franchise in the long run?

Tough situation.

Honestly,i do like what i've seen from Skelton. I think he's a very worthy project,but are Fitz,Wilson,Dockett and friends willing to endure a young QB?...whether it be Skelton or drafting a QBOTF with the #5 pick?

That is a good question. Anymore a rookie qb has 3 years to proove themsleves. The annoucers for the last Cardinals game accuatully said that the Cardinals coaching staff said that Skeleton reminded them of Rosthlerburger. Skeleton did get better every week he played. How much better is for the Arizona coaching staff to determine. I believe he earned himself another tryout this offseason.

All Fitzgerald, Dockett and Wilson want is to win games and get back to the Super-Bowl. They don't care who is behind the center as long as they are getting the job done. With that said, I believe a "stop gap qb" is exactly what the Cardinals need. They just want to win. All we as fan want is to win. I remeber everybody on this board complaining about Warner when the Cardinals signed him, except me and grads 82. Also everyone was complaining when the Cardinals signed Gandy at the Left Tackle position, except me. Both of those players worked out well for us. Stop gap players, but they were part of the reason why the Cardinals won two Nfc West titles, Nfc championship, and a trip to the Super-bowl. So a stop gap Qb isn't a bad idea or a bad situation to be in as long as the Cardinals winning. We will be happy and saying that the the front office got it right and how wonderful that coaching staff is.

Marc Bulger isn't a bad idea. He will be a good qb to have with this offense.

 

[Zeno]

If you can't name 60 then don't say you can.

What are you even talking about? Do you think there aren't 60 QBs better than DA & Hall? (Skeltons name omitted as per Desert Dawg's request)

I don't know every QB in Arena football, Canadian Football, UFL or the CFL nor can I name every back up QB in the NFL or rookies who will be coming in to the NFL this year--and I won't make the effort to get the list for you...if you can't find 60 guys better than those 2 then the QB position is in worse shape than I thought.

 

[Sunryze88]

I say take Bulger. He was good and probably is still good but he had no talent besides Stephen Jackson when he sucked. The o-line just killed him. I think he is our best option because we can get him dirt cheap. He is accurate and can get rid of the ball quickly. I think he would do great for our team. Maybe not Super Bowl Champs but he can mentor Skelton or any other rookie we decide to pick up. I am not saying he is the future or Kurt Warner but a great fill in for the situation now. We need every pick we can get in draft. Who else do we got?

 

[Derm]

Friends
vinnymac has not made any friends yet

I wonder why?

 

[conraddobler]

If you had stones that clanked you could go into next year with Skelton as the QBOTF then if it fails you could draft Luck.

Honestly from what I've seen of the kid, with a complete camp and OTA's under his belt along with the experience he did get, it wouldn't be completely insane to do that.

You'd have to sign a vet though for backup duty and possibly to start if you had a complete Skelton meltdown or injury.

The thing is if it takes hold and Fitz can see the kid getting better and gets more rapport with him that would be enough even if we don't make the playoffs again.

There's a ton of legit ways to go on this one, most if not all of it rides on our QB options and evaluations.

If you thought a guy was in the draft that was a QBOTF then I'd take him too, but like I've said many times before, we're going to go hard after a vet like Bulger because that's what's in Whiz's immediate term best interest.

Case is closed on that one, we won't start Skelton and we won't draft a 1st round QB we'll simply sign a vet and draft defense probably with the 5 and that's not a terrible idea either to be honest.

 

[BigRedFan]

I think he would be perfect to bring as a veteran. Though a long time ago, he actually took the position away from a Super Bowl winner and MVP and had a good period of consistency. I think he has a few good years left and has as good a chance as any to resurrect his career. I'm not sure what you guys expect, top QBs are in high demand and low supply, you either have to get them in the draft or find a has been in a recent slump. And using the reason about the poor offensive line to not bring him in, well then you might as well just draft Cam Newton and scratch all other plans, since it will make it difficult for any nonscrambling QB. McNabb is the other option but he is a bit of a headcase, I'd say edge to Bulger, but still draft a QB for the long term. And his stats really werent that bad for a 5-30 team during that timespan, maybe even somewhat better than you would have expected given the record.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Quote:

Friends
vinnymac has not made any friends yet

I wonder why?

Are we really going to judge people by their friends list? Can't we go back to judging them based on hairstyles, fashion choices and how much money they earn? I have a buzz cut, I think sweat pants are formal wear and I made like 12 dollars last year so I figure I'm safe.

Steve

 

[mojorizen7]

Are we really going to judge people by their friends list? Can't we go back to judging them based on hairstyles, fashion choices and how much money they earn? I have a buzz cut, I think sweat pants are formal wear and I made like 12 dollars last year so I figure I'm safe.

Steve

Stevo, i have to ask......did you lose a bet sporting that avatar?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Stevo, i have to ask......did you lose a bet sporting that avatar?

I thought it was appropriate. As a Cards fan, I often feel like someone's just chewed off half my face. Besides, I have an avatar bet with someone foolish enough to guarantee the Suns would not only make the playoffs but be seeded in the top 5. I would have dumped this avatar once the Cards season ended but now I figure I'm stuck with it till the other guy concedes.

Steve

 

[vinnymac]

What are you even talking about? Do you think there aren't 60 QBs better than DA & Hall? (Skeltons name omitted as per Desert Dawg's request)

I don't know every QB in Arena football, Canadian Football, UFL or the CFL nor can I name every back up QB in the NFL or rookies who will be coming in to the NFL this year--and I won't make the effort to get the list for you...if you can't find 60 guys better than those 2 then the QB position is in worse shape than I thought.[/q

Hall yes, Derick Anderson no.

You don't even have to go to the UFL, CFL or your own back yard to find a better qb than Hall. Just look at any back-up qb in the NFL and you will find a better one. Lets start with Marc Bulger.

 

[TopGun]

According to XTRA 910 Phoenix's Mike Jurecki, impending free agent Marc Bulger is seeking an opportunity to start on a team with a strong rushing attack and a quality defense.
Bulger wants to stay in Baltimore if he's going to be limited to backup work, but he's expected to draw interest as a veteran stop-gap elsewhere. Per Jurecki, the Cardinals are on the list of team's Bulger likes, but "may not be his top choice." Arizona doesn't meet Bulger's rushing attack/defense requirements, but it might be his best chance to start.
Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter

 

[Mulli]

According to XTRA 910 Phoenix's Mike Jurecki, impending free agent Marc Bulger is seeking an opportunity to start on a team with a strong rushing attack and a quality defense.
Bulger wants to stay in Baltimore if he's going to be limited to backup work, but he's expected to draw interest as a veteran stop-gap elsewhere. Per Jurecki, the Cardinals are on the list of team's Bulger likes, but "may not be his top choice." Arizona doesn't meet Bulger's rushing attack/defense requirements, but it might be his best chance to start.
Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter

Ya, Bulger hasn't played well since 2006, he will take what he can get.

 

[AzCardzFan]

According to XTRA 910 Phoenix's Mike Jurecki, impending free agent Marc Bulger is seeking an opportunity to start on a team with a strong rushing attack and a quality defense.
Bulger wants to stay in Baltimore if he's going to be limited to backup work, but he's expected to draw interest as a veteran stop-gap elsewhere. Per Jurecki, the Cardinals are on the list of team's Bulger likes, but "may not be his top choice." Arizona doesn't meet Bulger's rushing attack/defense requirements, but it might be his best chance to start.
Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter

I have a bad feeling that Bulger ends up with the Niners.......

 

[PJ1]

I have a bad feeling that Bulger ends up with the Niners.......

That would be good for us.