Karlos Dansby thinks the Dolphins are going to the SuperBowl

[Gee!]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nks-the-dolphins-are-going-to-the-super-bowl/

Ya ok haha they can't even get a QB ha

 

[Darkside]

You gotta believe though. Why even play otherwise? Besides the paychecks and chicks I mean. Oh wait.

 

[ARZCardinals]

positive attitude...that's good.

not likely to even make the playoffs

 

[splitsecond]

Well yeah, I am pretty sure all players get allotted super bowl tickets right?

 

[Bodha]

Ya ok haha they can't even get a QB ha

We're not one to talk.



When did Dansby become so vocal. I dont remember him being so outspoken during his tenure here.

 

[Darkside]

We're not one to talk.



When did Dansby become so vocal. I dont remember him being so outspoken during his tenure here.

I thought the same thing. He wasn't that vocal here, but he didn't need to be. He has to be with his current team because they have few vets of any significance and no leadership at all.

People hate on Dansby because he left, but he was a loss for us, and we still haven't recovered, no matter how good DWash is. We're close to it, but we haven't yet. Imagine if Dansby had a year under Horton. He was our dude calling out the plays and lining ****'s up before Horton got here. Just imagine how badass he'd be after. Our defense wouldn't have had such a learning curve last year in the beginning of the year had Dansby been here. That's like 3/4/5 years-and-game worth of knowledge in integrating the system. That changes games and maybe changes our year, who knows. I love Wash, but he still isn't Dansby leadership material on defense. Nor should he be, he's still young and learning, but Dansby was like our Ray Lewis when it came to calling out plays, barking out commands, and lining dudes up.

Dansby has to be vocal with the Dolphins. He looks around at all that lack of talent and figures he has to say something. You can't just be bums in the locker-room and think you're going to suck, or think your offseason sucked (which theirs did, they still couldn't land a QB). I totally understand it, it's coming from a desperation standpoint when he's on a bad team. It's the only thing he can do when they have no other leader on that team.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The grass is always greener until its not...

 

[kerouac9]

Dansby was vocal here--he was named team captain, called the plays, ran the pre-game hype huddle, etc.

The problem Dansby had here is that he never felt he was promoted by the coaching staff and front office. He wasn't allowed to be the out front leader of the team. When Wolf is coming on here to bash Dansby's effort, it's pretty damning.

I'm interested to see if Daryl Washington gets named a captain this year following camp. It's probably time if he's the player that truly will replace Karlos Dansby rather than a really good athlete.

 

[Darkside]

Dansby was vocal here--he was named team captain, called the plays, ran the pre-game hype huddle, etc.

The problem Dansby had here is that he never felt he was promoted by the coaching staff and front office. He wasn't allowed to be the out front leader of the team. When Wolf is coming on here to bash Dansby's effort, it's pretty damning.

I'm interested to see if Daryl Washington gets named a captain this year following camp. It's probably time if he's the player that truly will replace Karlos Dansby rather than a really good athlete.

Totally agree. But in your opinion is DWash as vocal as Dansby on the field, as far as a leadership standpoint in games? I don't think vocal leadership is such a huge deal before games, in practice, or outside of a game, but I think it's huge once you hit the field and are actually playing. I don't see Wash doing a lot of that during games (and like I said, he's young and I think it's hard to do when you're so young).

Dansby, in my opinion, got more shafted than either Rolle or Boldin, when it comes to money. They just kept franchising him instead of reaching out.

What do you mean by Wolf coming on here to bash Dansby's effort? You mean from the Doug and Wolf radio show? Not sure what you're referring to.

 

[kerouac9]

Totally agree. But in your opinion is DWash as vocal as Dansby on the field, as far as a leadership standpoint in games? I don't think vocal leadership is such a huge deal before games, in practice, or outside of a game, but I think it's huge once you hit the field and are actually playing. I don't see Wash doing a lot of that during games (and like I said, he's young and I think it's hard to do when you're so young).

Dansby, in my opinion, got more shafted than either Rolle or Boldin, when it comes to money. They just kept franchising him instead of reaching out.

What do you mean by Wolf coming on here to bash Dansby's effort? You mean from the Doug and Wolf radio show? Not sure what you're referring to.

I think it's exactly the opposite when it comes to leadership. I want a guy that's vocal all the time, and makes plays when the lights are on and they're needed. Dansby made plays that changed games, and backed it up with leadership on the field. I think that guys like Wilson and Fitz have to be encouraged to take a more vocal role, and that never had to happen with Dansby.

It's widely believed that the poster under the handle Hardy Brown was Ron Wolfley. You can see the hatchet job that Wolfley came on to this board to perform here: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/big-red-huddle-dansby-76228.html?highlight=huddle

Wolfley said pretty much the exact same things for two years on the air, as well.

 

[Darkside]

I think it's exactly the opposite when it comes to leadership. I want a guy that's vocal all the time, and makes plays when the lights are on and they're needed. Dansby made plays that changed games, and backed it up with leadership on the field. I think that guys like Wilson and Fitz have to be encouraged to take a more vocal role, and that never had to happen with Dansby.

It's widely believed that the poster under the handle Hardy Brown was Ron Wolfley. You can see the hatchet job that Wolfley came on to this board to perform here: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/big-red-huddle-dansby-76228.html?highlight=huddle

Wolfley said pretty much the exact same things for two years on the air, as well.

Totally agree with everything you said. I especially agree with you saying guys like Wilson and especially Fitz have to be encouraged to take a more vocal role and Dansby did it all on his own. Natural leader. So agree.

Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen/read that.

(Edit: My favorite line from one of Hardy Brown's posts: Football has been my life for a long, long time and when you know the game - because it was your job to know the game - you don't have to seek validation from posters on a message-board. Understand?

Is a fun read.)

 

[Crimson Warrior]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nks-the-dolphins-are-going-to-the-super-bowl/

Ya ok haha they can't even get a QB ha

Poor karlos. You should have stayed put man. If you had, you'd be part of a defense that's trying to take the next step to the "dominant" level. Instead, you'll most likely finish your career in anonymity.

 

[40yearfan]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nks-the-dolphins-are-going-to-the-super-bowl/

Ya ok haha they can't even get a QB ha

The guy robbed us blind. He took all those Cardinal dollars, had a chance to stay here, but figured he'd have a better chance getting recognized with Florida. He left and now he is cooking in his own stew. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

 

[Duckjake]

The guy robbed us blind. He took all those Cardinal dollars, had a chance to stay here, but figured he'd have a better chance getting recognized with Florida. He left and now he is cooking in his own stew. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

40 that's ridiculous. Were you taking a nap on January 10th 2010? Dansby earned almost every penny the Cards paid him in 2009 for that game alone.

Never mind that he had more tackles in the 2008 post season than any other player in the NFL. He's the only Cardinal player in Franchise history to intercept a pass in the Super Bowl. In 6 seasons in the AZ he had at least 23 forced turnovers. 25.5 sacks. Played inside, played outside, wherever they asked him to go, whatever they asked him to do he did it well.

The guy was an outstanding player for Arizona.

 

[40yearfan]

40 that's ridiculous. Were you taking a nap on January 10th 2010? Dansby earned almost every penny the Cards paid him in 2009 for that game alone.

Never mind that he had more tackles in the 2008 post season than any other player in the NFL. He's the only Cardinal player in Franchise history to intercept a pass in the Super Bowl. In 6 seasons in the AZ he had at least 23 forced turnovers. 25.5 sacks. Played inside, played outside, wherever they asked him to go, whatever they asked him to do he did it well.

The guy was an outstanding player for Arizona.

Pure BS. The Cards did everything but get down and their knees and beg. He thumbed his nose at us and some of you want to make him a great American hero. He was a louse and treated the Arizona fans like they were second class citizens. Slober over him all you want. I'm glad he's gone.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Pure BS. The Cards did everything but get down and their knees and beg. He thumbed his nose at us and some of you want to make him a great American hero. He was a louse and treated the Arizona fans like they were second class citizens. Slober over him all you want. I'm glad he's gone.

A louse? No.

A "me first" kind of guy? Probably.

Duck is right about the numbers though, and Dansby was part of the turnaround that got us to the SB. He did his job on the field, and he did it well.

He was a little fragile however, and his production was starting to tail off in 2009. IMO, it wasn't worth breaking the bank to keep him on the team.

That's why drafting well is so important. Through FA and the salary cap, the NFL has done a great job at establishing a reasonable level of parity in professional football.

You have to get your superstars in April because veteran FAs are almost always over-valued and over-priced. There's not enough cap room to buy a winning team.

If KD wanted to leave for a better party scene and lower income taxes (plus more guaranteed money), or Antonio Smith gets a crazy offer from HOU, you have be ready to plug in their heir-apparents. Outside of QB, the Cardinals have done a reasonable-to-good job of that, and that's why they'll at least have a change to challenge for division title in 2012.

 

[Duckjake]

Pure BS. The Cards did everything but get down and their knees and beg. He thumbed his nose at us and some of you want to make him a great American hero. He was a louse and treated the Arizona fans like they were second class citizens. Slober over him all you want. I'm glad he's gone.

Just because a guy left to go play somewhere else doesn't mean he wasn't any good when he played here. Heck you could make an all-star team of guys who left Arizona to play elsewhere. You're saying he was awful every game for 6 years in Arizona because like 100's of other players he left his current team for another as a free Agent? That you didn't enjoy anything the guy did while he played for us?

Kurt Warner retired a year early reneging on a contract he signed and left us poor Arizona fans with no QB resulting in a miserable 2010 season so I guess you think he's a louse too and were glad he was gone and don't give him any credit for anything he did while playing for Arizona?

 

[ANDY440]

Dansby was never promoted by the Cardinals because when he spoke he made Snoop Dog sound like an English professor

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Dansby was the best player on the defense every year he was here sans an outstanding year by Wilson.

Let me get this right 40, you'd rather have Stewart Bradley playing here and not earning 1/50 of his pay than KD who played at a high level, thus earning his money, every year?

 

[JeffGollin]

Karlos Dansby thinks the Dolphins are going to the SuperBowl

...and hundreds of thousands NYers thought the Rangers were going to the Stanley Cup...

 

[40yearfan]

Just because a guy left to go play somewhere else doesn't mean he wasn't any good when he played here. Heck you could make an all-star team of guys who left Arizona to play elsewhere. You're saying he was awful every game for 6 years in Arizona because like 100's of other players he left his current team for another as a free Agent? That you didn't enjoy anything the guy did while he played for us?

Kurt Warner retired a year early reneging on a contract he signed and left us poor Arizona fans with no QB resulting in a miserable 2010 season so I guess you think he's a louse too and were glad he was gone and don't give him any credit for anything he did while playing for Arizona?

I could care less what Dansby did when he was here. He had a chance to stay here for the same money and choose to go elsewhere. He thumbed his nose at the Cardinal fans. Now he is sitting down there in Miami crying. Good. He deserves it.

Dansby was the best player on the defense every year he was here sans an outstanding year by Wilson.

Let me get this right 40, you'd rather have Stewart Bradley playing here and not earning 1/50 of his pay than KD who played at a high level, thus earning his money, every year?

That's your opinion, certainly not mine. Mine showing me where I even mentioned Bradley in ANY of my posts? Where do you come up with this crap?

 

[Duckjake]

I could care less what Dansby did when he was here. He had a chance to stay here for the same money and choose to go elsewhere. He thumbed his nose at the Cardinal fans. Now he is sitting down there in Miami crying. Good. He deserves it.

But you don't feel the same way about Kurt Warner? That's seems inconsistent.

I don't care that you don't care what Dansby did when he was playing for Arizona. You claimed he robbed us. Karlos didn't hold a gun to Michael Bidwill's head and force him to use the franchise tag. Twice. Dansby earned every penny the Cards paid him.

If anyone robbed us it was Warner. By leaving as he did he robbed us of the enjoyment of the 2010 season. An unmitigated disaster even by old time Cardinal standards. I need to go back and look at some threads and see if you attacked Kurt as vehemently whenever someone posted something that Warner said.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Good to see that KD's delusions have moved from himself (as the best LB in the game) to something more team oriented.

 

[CardLogic]

Karlos Dansby - I really enjoyed his time between the lines as a Cardinal; not so much outside the lines.

He played well for the Cardinals, but seemed to think he was better than reality.

It appears that trend is still holding true in Miami...

 

[Duckjake]

Karlos Dansby - I really enjoyed his time between the lines as a Cardinal; not so much outside the lines.

He played well for the Cardinals, but seemed to think he was better than reality.

It appears that trend is still holding true in Miami...

Well I sure wouldn't want to pay a football player 8 million dollars a year who thought he wasn't any good. That was the problem for Arizona for years. The players just didn't have any expectations, they didn't have many fans, so as soon as things started to go bad they'd check it in.

I'll take guys like Dansby who want and expect to be great any day.

I can just imagine the hue and cry on this board if Daryl Washington said in an interview, well of course our goal is the Super Bowl but realistically we'll be lucky to win 9 games.