Keim Time

[Chopper0080]

Draft History of Steve Keim

2013
7-Jonathan Cooper - OG (traded, cut by Pats, on Dallas)
45-Kevin Minter - ILB (not re-signed, on Cincy)
69-Tyrann Matheiu - S (signed to large contract, played in 55 of 69 games)
103-Alex Okafor - OLB (not re-signed, on New Orleans)
116-Earl Watford - OG (not re-signed, cut by Jags, back with Cards)
140-Stepfan Taylor - RB (not re-signed, no team)
174-Ryan Swope - WR (cut, no team)
187-Andre Ellington - RB (on roster, depth player)
219-DC Jefferson - TE (cut, no team)

2014
27-Deone Bucannon - S (moved to LB, starter)
52-Troy Niklas - TE (has started 10 of 53 games, healthy for 31 of 53)
84-Kareem Martin - OLB (on roster, depth player)
91-John Brown - WR (has played in 49 of 53 games, #3 WR)
120-Logan Thomas - QB (cut and signed by multiple teams, now a TE)
160-Ed Stinson - DL (cut, on Jets roster)
196-Walt Powell - WR (cut, no team)

2015
24-DJ Humphries - OT (started 14 of 37 games)
58-Markus Golden - OLB (starter, 10+ sacks in 2016)
86-David Johnson - RB (starter, a top 5 player at his position in 2016)
116-Rodney Gunter - DL (on roster, depth player)
158-Shaquille Riddick - OLB (cut, no team)
159-JJ Nelson - WR (on roster, depth player)
256-Gerald Christian - TE (cut, no team)

2016
29-Robert Nkemdiche - DL (0 starts, and 7 out of 21 games played)
92-Brandon Williams - CB (benched, only plays special teams in 2nd season)
128-Evan Boehm - C (moved to OG, starts)
167-Marqui Christian - S (cut, on LA Rams)
170-Cole Toner - OT (cut in year 2, was on Bengals PS)
205-Harlan Miller - CB (cut, on PS)

2017
13-Haason Reddick - LB (starter)
36-Budda Baker - S (depth player)
98-Chad Williams - WR (5th WR)
115-Dorian Johnson - OG (cut, on Houston)
157-Will Holden - OT (depth player)
179-TJ Logan - RB (IR)
208-Rudy Ford - S (special teams player)

36 total draft picks
22 still on the roster
8 starters (Mathieu, Bucannon, Brown, Humphries, Golden, D Johnson, Boehm, Reddick)
8 on other team's rosters
6 not in the NFL

Broken down by year
2013 - 3 of 9 still on roster (33%)
2014 - 4 of 7 still on roster (57%)
2015 - 5 of 7 still on roster (71%)
2016 - 4 of 6 still on roster (67%)
2017 - 5 of 6 still on roster (86%)

Something to think about

 

[cardncubfan]

New England Patriots draft history.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=3200&type=team

2013 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
2 52 Jamie Collins OLB Southern Mississippi
2 59 Aaron Dobson WR Marshall
3 83 Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
3 91 Duron Harmon SS Rutgers
4 102 Josh Boyce WR Texas Christian
7 226 Michael Buchanan DE Illinois
7 235 Steve Beauharnais ILB Rutgers

2014 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 29 Dominique Easley DT Florida
2 62 Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois
4 105 Bryan Stork C Florida State
4 130 James White RB Wisconsin
4 140 Cameron Fleming T Stanford
6 179 Jon Halapio G Florida
6 206 Jemea Thomas DB Georgia Tech
7 244 Jeremy Gallon WR Michigan

2015 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 32 Malcom Brown DT Texas
2 64 Jordan Richards SAF Stanford
3 97 Geneo Grissom LB Oklahoma
4 101 Trey Flowers DE Arkansas
4 111 Tre Jackson G Florida State
4 131 Shaq Mason C Georgia Tech
5 166 Joe Cardona LS Navy
6 178 Matt Wells LB Mississippi State
6 202 A.J. Derby TE Arkansas
7 247 Darryl Roberts CB Marshall
7 253 Xzavier Dickson OLB Alabama

2016 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
2 60 Cyrus Jones CB Alabama
3 78 Joe Thuney G North Carolina State
3 91 Jacoby Brissett QB North Carolina State
3 96 Vincent Valentine DT Nebraska
4 112 Malcolm Mitchell WR Georgia
6 208 Kamu Grugier-Hill LB Eastern Illinois
6 214 Elandon Roberts LB Houston
6 221 Ted Karras G Illinois
7 225 Devin Lucien WR Arizona State

2017 - DEREK RIVERS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
3 83 Derek Rivers OLB Youngstown State
3 85 Antonio Garcia T Troy
4 131 Deatrich Wise DE Arkansas
6 211 Conor McDermott T UCLA

 

[cardncubfan]

Thought we would need a comparison to one of the top teams in the league for reference.

 

[Shaggy]

I want to see the run down of Rod Graves picks within the last 5 years of his time as GM.

 

[GatorAZ]

#BringbackDenny

 

[Dback Jon]

#BringbackDenny

#ZombieDenny

 

[Harry]

I don’t think the % on the roster is as important as the performance of those draft picks.

 

[Finito]

Isn't the average NFL like 2-3 years anyway. Pretty much most guys drafted don't last long period.

 

[football karma]

Keim has been hit with a touch of bad luck:

Non first rounders who clearly can play:

Badger- two ACLs
John Brown: weird sickle cell impacting soft tissue injuries
D Johnson: dislocated wrist
M Golden: ACL

Four impact players taken late 2nd or 3rd round who were durable in college, but missed most of a season (or more) in their first three seasons

 

[DVontel]

That Brandon Williams pick is just......ah it still makes my skin crawl.

 

[vince56]

That 2016 DRAFT is just......ah it still makes my skin crawl.

FIXED IT FOR YOU.

 

[vince56]

Picks that worked out well from that list:

2013:
69-Tyrann Matheiu - S
103-Alex Okafor - OLB
187-Andre Ellington - RB

2014
27-Deone Bucannon - S
91-John Brown - WR

2015
58-Markus Golden - OLB
86-David Johnson - RB
159-JJ Nelson - WR

2016
(Crickets)

2017
13-Haason Reddick - LB
36-Budda Baker - S
157-Will Holden - OT (only because he's actually playing, not related to quality)

IMO that's 11 good picks in 5 years. Yikes, this is so eye-opening to look at it like this. This team is old because we can't scout or draft correctly.

 

[DVontel]

Picks that worked out well from that list:

2013:
69-Tyrann Matheiu - S
103-Alex Okafor - OLB
187-Andre Ellington - RB

2014
27-Deone Bucannon - S
91-John Brown - WR

2015
58-Markus Golden - OLB
86-David Johnson - RB
159-JJ Nelson - WR

2016
(Crickets)

2017
13-Haason Reddick - LB
36-Budda Baker - S
157-Will Holden - OT (only because he's actually playing, not related to quality)

IMO that's 11 good picks in 5 years. Yikes, this is so eye-opening to look at it like this. This team is old because we can't scout or draft correctly.

I think TJ Logan will be good once he gets back from injury. I’m also still TBD on Chad Williams.

I also think Boehm can be solid if the coaching staff moved him to his rightful position, center.


I agree with what the rest you said, however.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think TJ Logan will be good once he gets back from injury. I’m also still TBD on Chad Williams.

I also think Boehm can be solid if the coaching staff moved him to his rightful position, center.


I agree with what the rest you said, however.

Chad might not ever be a world beater but there was one play this year from his minimal exposure which made me smile about his contributions in the future. It was third down, he ran a slant and held on to the ball on I believe third down (might have been fourth with our season), but he was clutch for the first. Yes one play, but I cannot tell you how often a rookie finally gets a ball thrown their way, it's a crucial down and they do not follow through... and the kid did not jump up and down and make a big deal out of it but just did his job

 

[kerouac9]

I don’t think the % on the roster is as important as the performance of those draft picks.

I think there has to be a balance. Is every draft pick the Packers spend on a QB a waste because they’re blocked by Aaron Rodgers?

On the other hand, the Lions can have two Pro Bowlers on each side of the ball and go 5-11 every year.

I think that percentage of snaps by drafted players is a good intermediate term measure. I don’t think you’re penalized as much because you have someone blocking you, and you get a bonus for having health/depth that you’re drafted.

 

[daves]

Interesting comparison!

Draft History of Steve Keim
36 total draft picks
22 still on the roster
8 starters (Mathieu, Bucannon, Brown, Humphries, Golden, D Johnson, Boehm, Reddick)
8 on other team's rosters
6 not in the NFL

Broken down by year
2013 - 3 of 9 still on roster (33%)
2014 - 4 of 7 still on roster (57%)
2015 - 5 of 7 still on roster (71%)
2016 - 4 of 6 still on roster (67%)
2017 - 5 of 6 still on roster (86%)

Something to think about

New England Patriots draft history.
Annotated -dbs

2013 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS  Status         Team  GS  GP  Notes
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION                  
2 52 Jamie Collins OLB       Starter        CLE   41  50  
2 59 Aaron Dobson WR         Out of League        13  24  
3 83 Logan Ryan CB           Starter        TEN   40  48  
3 91 Duron Harmon SS         Backup         NE    12  68  
4 102 Josh Boyce WR          Out of League         3  10  
7 226 Michael Buchanan DE    Out of League         0  18  
7 235 Steve Beauharnais ILB  Out of League         0   5  
                  
2014 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS                  
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION                  
1 29 Dominique Easley DT     Out of League         3  22  
2 62 Jimmy Garoppolo QB      Backup         NE     2  17  
4 105 Bryan Stork C          Out of League        17  21  
4 130 James White RB         Backup         NE     6  38  
4 140 Cameron Fleming T      Backup         NE    15  39  
6 179 Jon Halapio G          Backup         NYG    0   0  
6 206 Jemea Thomas DB        Out of League         0   0  
7 244 Jeremy Gallon WR       Out of League         0   0  
                  
2015 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS                  
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION                  
1 32 Malcom Brown DT         Backup         NE    30  37  
2 64 Jordan Richards SAF     Backup         NE     3  30  
3 97 Geneo Grissom LB        Backup         NE     0  28  
4 101 Trey Flowers DE        Starter        NE    13  22  
4 111 Tre Jackson G          Out of League         0   0  
4 131 Shaq Mason C           Starter        NE    30  35  
5 166 Joe Cardona LS         Backup         NE     0  37  
6 178 Matt Wells LB          Out of League         0   0  
6 202 A.J. Derby TE          Backup         DEN    0   4  
7 247 Darryl Roberts CB      Backup         NYG    3  16  
7 253 Xzavier Dickson OLB    Out of League         0   0  
                  
2016 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS                  
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION                  
2 60 Cyrus Jones CB          Out of League         1  10  
3 78 Joe Thuney G            Starter        NE    21  21  
3 91 Jacoby Brissett QB      Backup         IND    6   8  traded
3 96 Vincent Valentine DT    Backup         NE     2  13  IR
4 112 Malcolm Mitchell WR    Backup         NE     6  14  IR
6 208 Kamu Grugier-Hill LB   Backup         PHI    0  17  
6 214 Elandon Roberts LB     Starter        NE     9  18  
6 221 Ted Karras G           Backup         NE     1  21  
7 225 Devin Lucien WR        Out of League         0   0  
                  
2017 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS                  
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION                  
3 83 Derek Rivers OLB        N/A            NE     0   0  IR
3 85 Antonio Garcia T        N/A            NE     0   0  NFI
4 131 Deatrich Wise DE       Backup         NE     0   5  
6 211 Conor McDermott T      Backup         BUF    0   0

Summary for New England:
Total Picks: 39
Still on NE roster: 18
Still on other team roster: 8
Starters for NE: 4
Starters for other teams: 2
Out of the League: 13

2013 - 1 of 7 still on roster (14%)
2014 - 3 of 8 still on roster (38%)
2015 - 6 of 10 still on roster (60%)
2016 - 5 of 9 still on roster (56%)
2017 - 3 of 4 still on roster (75%)

Food for thought!

...dave