Ken Bikoff just beat Marc Stein for most hated Media member

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I didnt think it could happen so fast, but there were just WAY to many quotes for him not to win the most hated reporter award.

Rhett (Chicago): Why is there never any mention of Starbury for MVP? Back in they day, guys like Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Isaiah Thomas, and Magic Johnson could beat you with both scoring and passing. Marbury is the only one in the league like that, he is a fusion of Kidd and Iverson, and he's taken his team to a new level. He's a top 5 talent. I don't think he should beat out KG or TD this year, but someone should at least put him in the running.

Ken Bikoff: I don't think he's a top five talent. Garnett, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Iverson and Tracy McGrady all bring more to the table, and I haven't even mentioned Paul Pierce, Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Kidd. Marbury is a talented player, don't get me wrong, but he's not the kind of guy who really makes his teammates better. It goes beyond numbers. Marbury does put up solid assist numbers, but he doesn't keep everyone involved and he can't be depended on when the game is on the line. Few people are. Marbury isn't in the same class at all as Thomas or Magic because Marbury doesn't raise the level of his teammates.

then he says

CG (DC): Did you say that "he can't be depended on when the game is on the line"? sounds kind of ignorant to me. As far as I know Starbury has hit plenty of game winning shots for the suns this season and Id argue that hes one of top players when it comes to clutch shots.

Ken Bikoff: And how many times has a key turnover or a lapse in defense hurt the Suns this year? How many times has a selfish drive to the basket instead of a kickout pass for an open jumper cut down the team's options? Marbury isn't a scrub in any way, shape or form, and he's a star in the NBA. But he has some pretty serious flaws. There's a reason that he is with his third team in his career, and it's not because of how we always comes through when the chips are down.


and

Jason Denver: Why do people say playing on a winning team gives a rookie an edge in the ROY race when the best rookies are often on bad teams with no one to take the pressure off them.....Caron Wagnor Nene

Ken Bikoff: It has to be on a case-by-case basis in my book. Stoudemire doesn't get the edge over Yao just because the Suns made the playoffs. The Suns stay in contention for the playoffs without Stoudemire. Stoudemire is a strong candidate, and I don't have a problem with splitting the award between Yao and Amare. But Yao will win the award because he is a rookie that gave the Rockets something that few teams can match -- a quality big man who developed much faster than expected. Stoudemire is still raw and his best days are still to come, but he had a great season.


then

David (emeryville): Rookie question: What's harder in your opinion... Coming from another country, not have any summers off, trying to adjust to media hype and expectations (Yao), or starting to play bball at the age of 14, coming straight from high school, facing all kinds of childhood struggles at home and in the community. ooh...toughy....

Ken Bikoff: They both are tough circumstances for anybody, and both have excelled. But it is more impressive in Yao's case because of the initial expectations placed on him. Stoudemire was just seen as a high school kid who wasn't facing the international scrutiny that Yao was. He has the weight of a billion people on his shoulders. Stoudemire doesn't have nearly the same kind of pressure.



No 2 paragraph explanation of why I was bothered by this. It is pretty blatant. All I have to say is Ken Bikoff is a jack ass, doesn't know his ****, and should be removed from the media like every other trend following sheep we see in the papers.
 

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Plain and simple, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Marbury has been almost automatic this year in clutch situations. All those turnovers that he mentions? Penny Hardaway. :D

Iverson is good, but Marbury is not only as prolific a scorer, but he's also, a) a better passer, b) a better defender, and c) a better leader.
 

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Marbury is a talented player, don't get me wrong, but he's not the kind of guy who really makes his teammates better. It goes beyond numbers. Marbury does put up solid assist numbers, but he doesn't keep everyone involved and he can't be depended on when the game is on the line.

WTF? How does this guy earn a paycheck?

Marbs doesnt keep people involved?

Tell that to Shawn Marion, who took (and made) more shots this season than ever before - and joined Marbury in Atlanta this year for the All-Star game.

I dont even know why Bikoff has me all worked up. The guy obviously hasnt watched a Suns game all season long.

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Argggg. Then he goes on to talk about Marbs being with his 3rd team in his career? When just prior to that he props Jason Kidd as being better? How many teams has Kidd been with? Make that 4 after this season.

OK. I'm going to count to ten.
 

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Bikoff is an idiot. I just dug up this chat from Feb 4th where he says...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=3091

Jim (Houston): Hey Kenny!! Who's your ROY so far and who do u think will get it in the end?

Ken Bikoff: I love me some Yao Ming, but right now my winner is Amare Stoudemire from the Suns. He has been productive, he has established himself as a forced to be reckoned with for the most part, and even when he shoots poorly, he's still a factor. Last night vs. the Bulls he went 2-of-12 from the floor, but his late rebounds killed Chicago. Yao is up there, but Stoudemire has had a huge impact.

So what exactly has Yao done in two months to change Bikoffs mind?
 

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Ken Bikoff just beat Marc Stein for most hated Media member

He gets my vote!

I love the way he expertly comments on things he doesn't even know about. The other canidates simply meddled in hipocracy, this guy showcases his stupidity with genuine skill.

:p
 

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Well, I wouldn't say Stephon Marbury is a top five player either, but some of the other things this clown says are flat out moronic. I love how everybody and their mother uses assists to compare point guards unless one of those point guards is Stephon Marbury.

Isn't Jason Kidd on his third NBA team? And Marbury requested to be traded from Minnesota. They wanted to keep him.

I honestly can't remember the last time Marbury had a turnover in crunch time. There was a game against Seattle I believe where the Suns as a team had several turnovers at the end, but 2 of the more bad calls. The other was an illegal pick by Amare Stoudemire.

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I can't even count how many times Kidd could not win a game for us in the last seconds.
 

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Originally posted by SweetD
I can't even count how many times Kidd could not win a game for us in the last seconds.

This was probably part of the reason we traded for Marbury.

Kidd is instant fastbreak, but he cannot reliably take over a game or a posession.

As far as Marbury making teammates better. He is better in this regard than many of the players mentioned. Kobe, McGrady, Pierce, Nowitzki, and Iverson are great talents but don't really make the players around them better.

Marbury is among the top five point guards but not the top five players.
 

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Marbury is the best PG in the league. But probably the 7-10th best PLAYER in the league. Even so, Bikoff is an idiot.
 
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Just to update the situation


Erick (MT): Hey Ken, still think Marbury isn't a clutch player to be counted on when the game is on the line??? Thought so.

Ken Bikoff: (5:36 PM ET ) You know what, I was waiting on this question because I knew it was coming. He hit a big shot and has been playing great in this series. Banking in a three at the buzzer seems kind of lucky, but he did it and he deserves credit for getting the shot off. Marbury has been impressive, but again, I'll take some other players before Marbury when it comes to clutch shooters.



BTW, I still hate him
 

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Someone should have mentioned to that idiot that Marbury has been among the league leaders all season-long in that Nestle Crunch crunch time players list.

I'm sorry, but anyone whose complaint against Marbury is that he isn't a clutch player has no business covering basketball. That's just ignorant.

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