Kerr on Nash, Stoudemire and possible trades

[ASUCHRIS]

Check out this gem from Paola, excellent fact checking:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/05/12/20090512boivinsuns0513.html

"Two things have caused this leapfrog of excitement. One is a probable 2010 NBA draft class that has much of the league giddy, unlike this season's shoulder-shrugger."

Apparently Paola didn't know that our pick is going to the Thunder.

 

[Bufalay]

Check out this gem from Paola, excellent fact checking:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/05/12/20090512boivinsuns0513.html

"Two things have caused this leapfrog of excitement. One is a probable 2010 NBA draft class that has much of the league giddy, unlike this season's shoulder-shrugger."

Apparently Paola didn't know that our pick is going to the Thunder.

She got paid to write that? What a *******.

 

[arwillan]

Shaq for Ben can wait till trading deadline. For the same saving of LT, we'd have a lot more flexibility. Like maybe we were in playoff run and the additional revenue then would offset the LT saving.



Well, nothing is binding. Maybe Nash wanted out already but agreed to be silent to not hurt Kerr's spinning attempt for positive image, as the price of letting him go via option out.



I'd actually have no problem with that, were Nash to play like Stockton or Kidd in latest form.

Cleveland is a contending team, obviously, and probably will be again next year. No way are they going to ship out Wallace for Shaq at the deadline and jeopardize everything they have going.

 

[cly2tw]

I think the dominant ball handling tag is lame on Nash. I think Nash has to handle the ball more than he would like because other Suns players are unable to create their own shot. Throwing the ball inside low to Shaq has been one of his few options. Most of the other Suns players are like chickens waiting to be fed their next meal. I think Nash would be quite content to dump the ball off early if he had players around him that could create their own shot.

This is typical, epic problem of chicken and egg. But you have to acknowledge that Nash himself implicitly admitted that he did not like Porter's approach of taking the ball out of his hands. As I put elsewhere, due to Porter's decision to let him handle the ball less early in the session, the team started to learn to play well without him, as evidence in our only win against Lakers as well as good bench play.

Whether chicken or egg first, how do you imagine we solve the problem? Is your idea to let him continue his domination of the ball till age 43 or 40 with the Suns? Hoping his suddenly getting the idea of "less is more" like Stockton and Kidd did before him? Or just divorce him and let the team play without him. Well, you'd hate the last option, if you truly believed that the current roster couldn't play and succeed without Nash dominating the ball though.

 

[cly2tw]

Cleveland is a contending team, obviously, and probably will be again next year. No way are they going to ship out Wallace for Shaq at the deadline and jeopardize everything they have going.

I disagree. It's not like Ben was as crucial to Cavs as KG to Celtics. If they failed to win it this year, they'd pay all the cost to get Shaq to fight Bynum or Nene. If they won it all, it's moot to talk about Shaq anyway.

 

[leclerc]

I'd like to trade J-Rich for a young PF with size and defense. Then let him develop an open midrange jumpshot ala Kurt Thomas.

I'm not so sure we need to sign Barnes. If we get him for cheap then do it. He can get the starting job when Grant Hill hangs it up, depending on Dudley's progress.

We can play Dragic at both positions ala Kirk Heinrich does for Chicago. Having another PG on the floor with Nash should be fine if the other dude can defend the opposing SG. Nash can either have the ball in his hands or rest off the ball for spot up shooting duties.

I'm sort of looking forward to next year already. Going to be great to have Amare back in the lineup and watch the continuing development of Dragic, Dudley and Sideshow Bob.

GO SUNS!

 

[Bufalay]

I'd like to trade J-Rich for a young PF with size and defense. Then let him develop an open midrange jumpshot ala Kurt Thomas.

Diaw?

 

[CaptainInsano]

How about just until 40.

I'd like to find a way for the Suns to use Nash in a two PG system but his defense will always be problematic. I wonder if Dragic could be converted to a SG. I am torn in many ways because I want the Suns to draft PG Jonny Flynn. I think he will be a very good NBA PG. Never can have enough PGs. If a team gets too many they can always be traded.

This is what houston did and look at them now, even though they have made the playoffs each year for a while they still were able to draft using this strategy and end up with both Rafer Alston and Aaron Brooks, and they finally chose to stick with Brooks.

The suns on the other hand....

Well I don't even need to explain.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This is what houston did and look at them now, even though they have made the playoffs each year for a while they still were able to draft using this strategy and end up with both Rafer Alston and Aaron Brooks, and they finally chose to stick with Brooks.

The suns on the other hand....

Well I don't even need to explain.

an even example is the cavs back in the day. had mark price, drafted KJ. were able to turn KJ into larry nance. if a pg is the best player available (and i think that will likely be the case in this draft), draft him.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I'd like to trade J-Rich for a young PF with size and defense.
GO SUNS!

Heh, wouldn't we all? Unfortunately, like most of the rest of the roster, J-Rich has negative trade value. Richardson just brings very little to the table...he is a pure scorer who plays his worst when it matters most, and is a terrible defender. After watching him for a couple months, I would definitely stick him on the bench and start Leandro.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Heh, wouldn't we all? Unfortunately, like most of the rest of the roster, J-Rich has negative trade value. Richardson just brings very little to the table...he is a pure scorer who plays his worst when it matters most, and is a terrible defender. After watching him for a couple months, I would definitely stick him on the bench and start Leandro.

a terrible disappointment in my opinion.

 

[mojorizen7]

Obviously the defense isn't gonna get any better next season(standing pat) so starting Barbosa isn't gonna make it any worse. His on court chemistry with Shaq has been very good at times....I'd like to see him start with Shaq and Amare. I could care less who else starts....although I'd rather see more of Dragic and Duds ,than Nash,JRich or G. Hill.

 

[Mainstreet]

an even example is the cavs back in the day. had mark price, drafted KJ. were able to turn KJ into larry nance. if a pg is the best player available (and i think that will likely be the case in this draft), draft him.

That's why I want the BPA drafted by the Suns, which IMO will likely be a PG. I'm liking Jonny Flynn at #14. If the Suns draft value, they will have value at the PG position to use or trade.

 

[elindholm]

an even example is the cavs back in the day.

Is that the opposite of an odd example?

 

[95pro]

Diaw?

i dont remember diaw having a consistent jumper, maybe when he didnt hesitate. but its not amare-like/automatic. heck, kt's jumper is still better imo, than diaw's.

Heh, wouldn't we all? Unfortunately, like most of the rest of the roster, J-Rich has negative trade value. Richardson just brings very little to the table...he is a pure scorer who plays his worst when it matters most, and is a terrible defender. After watching him for a couple months, I would definitely stick him on the bench and start Leandro.

that's a lot of $$ sitting on the bench. kind of reminds me of diaw's contract, but more expensive if he did come off the bench.

 

[leclerc]

Obviously the defense isn't gonna get any better next season(standing pat) so starting Barbosa isn't gonna make it any worse. His on court chemistry with Shaq has been very good at times....I'd like to see him start with Shaq and Amare. I could care less who else starts....although I'd rather see more of Dragic and Duds ,than Nash,JRich or G. Hill.

I agree. Start Leandro with Steve and Grant and play Dragic and Duds significantly more than last year. Coach Gentry got good play from the bench and now we can finally start resting Nash and Hill. Jank Barnes and J-Rich if they don't play well.

 

[leclerc]

That's why I want the BPA drafted by the Suns, which IMO will likely be a PG. I'm liking Jonny Flynn at #14. If the Suns draft value, they will have value at the PG position to use or trade.

I watched a clip of him on youtube and he impressed me with some posting up and hitting jumpers, threes and fadeaway jumpers. I hope he's a decent defender. I'm officially a fan.

 

[elindholm]

Flynn's descriptions online remind me of Juan Dixon. Pass.

 

[Mainstreet]

Flynn's descriptions online remind me of Juan Dixon. Pass.

I have only seen Flynn play in only one NCAA playoff game with Syracuse. I did not even know anything about him prior to the game but my eyes lit up when I watched him play. He is so quick, can create and get to the the rim. Also he is only age 20. He really plays very pesty defense. I liked him more than Lawson although Lawson would be a nice consolation prize. It just seems Lawson will have trouble finishing at the rim on the next level with his shot trajectory. I'm not sure about the other PGs. The other player I am focusing on is James Johnson who can play both forward positions. I do like Blair as a Milsap type PF, however, he could be boom or bust.

Have you thought about who the Suns should draft?