Kieff being fined $10,000 by the NBA

[JCSunsfan]

Absolutely incorrect.



That would never happen anyway because of the Player's Union.

I am not so sure. He has already behaved in a way that would justify a team suspension.

 

[Hoop Head]

There is a precedent of sending a player home and leaving them on the inactive list. So long as he's still getting paid the players union don't have much of argument. I know Josh Smith was sent home from Detroit, I believe Arenas was given the same treatment at the end of his playing days, Iverson also went through something similar. It's like the reverse of what happened a few years ago when we got Emeka Okafor in a trade, he never reported to the team, didn't show up for any games, and it was reported management had trouble reaching him to have a sit down about coming back for the end of the season. He was inactive and getting paid.

 

[Phrazbit]

Absolutely incorrect.

That would never happen anyway because of the Player's Union.

I don't see why its incorrect, the Spurs situation was totally different. As long as the Suns are still paying his salary the Union does not have a leg to stand on. We wouldn't be the first or the last team to tell a player they'd rather pay him to sit at home than to deal with him on the roster.

 

[Hoop Head]

Zach Lowe also wrote a piece on Markieff yesterday where he suggest a few suitors, one idea that he pitched is a straight swap for Faried in Denver. I'd do that trade in a minute. I know Faried makes a little more over the course of his deal but with him and Chandler we'd have a strong interior presence on defense but it might clog the paint on offense. Both of them are good offensive rebounders so having 3 guys with some range out there with them could create a decent offense.

He also talks about Houston with Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas both being restricted free agents at seasons end, they may part with one or both of them for a long term answer and Kieff's contract may be less than what they'd end up having to pay to retain either of them. I'd take Motiejunas and a pick for Kieff.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-curious-case-of-markieff-morris/

 

[JCSunsfan]

Zach Lowe also wrote a piece on Markieff yesterday where he suggest a few suitors, one idea that he pitched is a straight swap for Faried in Denver. I'd do that trade in a minute. I know Faried makes a little more over the course of his deal but with him and Chandler we'd have a strong interior presence on defense but it might clog the paint on offense. Both of them are good offensive rebounders so having 3 guys with some range out there with them could create a decent offense.

He also talks about Houston with Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas both being restricted free agents at seasons end, they may part with one or both of them for a long term answer and Kieff's contract may be less than what they'd end up having to pay to retain either of them. I'd take Motiejunas and a pick for Kieff.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-curious-case-of-markieff-morris/

Wow. That article makes me want to trade him. Don't like Faried. Morris looks enticing to Houston because they have two pf's hitting free agency and could have Morris, with similar skills locked up for less.

Honestly. Nothing looks appealing, not keeping him, no trades I see, nothing.

No one is really trying to get him. That should tell Markieff something. Sadly, he is not very good at perceiving reality.

 

[TJ]

You can't let insignificant scum like Markieff dictate the way you run your franchise.

The right thing to do is to first try and make amends (unlikely), and when/if that doesn't work, let him sit a sulk until a suitable trade offer is made available.

As critical as I've been about Hornacek and McD, I do think they're doing their best to handle this situation in a professional manner.

 

[overseascardfan]

You can't let insignificant scum like Markieff dictate the way you run your franchise.

The right thing to do is to first try and make amends (unlikely), and when/if that doesn't work, let him sit a sulk until a suitable trade offer is made available.

As critical as I've been about Hornacek and McD, I do think they're doing their best to handle this situation in a professional manner.

Quick question, how will a suitable trade offer come in if he is sitting out, sulking on the bench & being a locker room cancer? I don't see a team becoming interested in that, if fact I could see a team offering a max of pennies on the dollar just to take him off our hands.

That Lowe article I can't see as being anything more than nonsense, PHX would probably jump at either Faried or Terrence Jones if DEN or HOU seriously offered for Morris right now.

 

[Errntknght]

Try as he might, I don't think Markieff will have enough sympathy from any other player to be much of a locker room cancer. Archie Goodwin will probably be unhappy about his playing time and his perceived lack of opportunity so he will want to be traded, too - about the only one at all aligned with the remaining Morris.

 

[Mainstreet]

I thought this article belonged here. It is about Ty Lawson. More and more NBA players create their own problems and blame others.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-o...ets-connelly-a-bad-gm-the-kroenkes-bad-owners

 

[Iceman]

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/643549942309629952

 

[leclerc]

The circus is back in town.

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So are we going to see a lot of PJ at the 4?

Chandler / Len
PJ / Mirza / Leuer
TJ / Archie / Sonny
Knight / Booker
Bled / Price

 

[Errntknght]

So are we going to see a lot of PJ at the 4?
Chandler / Len
PJ / Mirza / Leuer
TJ / Archie / Sonny
Knight / Booker
Bled / Price

It will depend on how well Mirza and Leuer shoot the 3. Its going to be critical that we spread the floor with the backcourt we have. I expect us to rival the Rockets when it comes to launching 3's - probably anyone who can make them at a rate above 35% is going to have a green light for open threes. Lots of them in transition - Hornacek wants early offense and thats a sure fire way to get it.

But the most crucial position is the 4 once we're into the half court game. TJ pretty much cannot be on the floor if the PF is not a real threat behind the arc - unless TJ himself can become such a threat. Bled and Knight also do much better when the paint is more open.

 

[Hoop Head]

I read on another forum that Markieff & Marcus will face a minimum of a 10 game suspension if they are found guilty of the aggravated assault charges. If that's true, it seems about right, that will seriously hurt Markieff's trade value before the season starts but I wonder how close that will get them to December 15th, once players signed in the offseason can be traded. I think that is the most likely time Kieff would be moved anyways but a suspension that covers almost all of November will definitely hurt.

 

[Phrazbit]

I read on another forum that Markieff & Marcus will face a minimum of a 10 game suspension if they are found guilty of the aggravated assault charges. If that's true, it seems about right, that will seriously hurt Markieff's trade value before the season starts but I wonder how close that will get them to December 15th, once players signed in the offseason can be traded. I think that is the most likely time Kieff would be moved anyways but a suspension that covers almost all of November will definitely hurt.

This isn't the NFL, a 10 game suspension for a guy who is signed for the next 328 games... that is nothing. If anything I think getting the court case out of the way, even if it resulted in a 10 game suspension, would help his value, as the issue would be put to bed.

 

[Mainstreet]

I read on another forum that Markieff & Marcus will face a minimum of a 10 game suspension if they are found guilty of the aggravated assault charges. If that's true, it seems about right, that will seriously hurt Markieff's trade value before the season starts but I wonder how close that will get them to December 15th, once players signed in the offseason can be traded. I think that is the most likely time Kieff would be moved anyways but a suspension that covers almost all of November will definitely hurt.

If Markieff were to be found guilty of the charges, I think his demeanor would change in a more positive direction. This would be a very humbling experience or it should be. It would hurt his reputation even more around the NBA so it would be more than him versus the Suns. There would be no more hiding behind denial.

However, I do not think this case will go to trial. I believe it will either get dismissed or plea bargained. The sooner this happens the better. I'm anxious to find out if this case will be sent back to a grand jury or even dismissed. We might find out as soon as Wednesday when the twins appear in court.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Markieff were to be found guilty of the charges, I think his demeanor would change in a more positive direction. This would be a very humbling experience or it should be. It would hurt his reputation even more around the NBA so it would be more than him versus the Suns. There would be no more hiding behind denial.

However, I do not think this case will go to trial. I believe it will either get dismissed or plea bargained. The sooner this happens the better. I'm anxious to find out if this case will be sent back to a grand jury or even dismissed. We might find out as soon as Wednesday when the twins appear in court.

I do believe that if it is a felony, but is plea bargained down, the minumum suspension will be 10 games. I don't think that will hurt the Suns much, but it might have a dampening effect on his attitude.

Its pretty clear that these two are spoiled brats. But there are plenty of spoiled brats outside of bball too.

 

[Mainstreet]

This matter continues.

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/644179439794847744