Kiper and Mcshay say Manti Teo is a top 3 pick

[Denny Green Fan]

They say there is no Jake Long or Andrew Luck in this class and his

value will rise because of it.

 

[Chopper0080]

They say there is no Jake Long or Andrew Luck in this class and his

value will rise because of it.

I always find it funny when people tab players as top 3 picks when they don't know who those top 3 teams will be.

Manti Te'o is a top 10 player in this draft. Where he winds up in the top 10 depends on what teams are in that group. My early guess is Buffalo.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I always find it funny when people tab players as top 3 picks when they don't know who those top 3 teams will be.

Manti Te'o is a top 10 player in this draft. Where he winds up in the top 10 depends on what teams are in that group. My early guess is Buffalo.

I seen on PTI last week that the Bills GM has already come out and said

he wants a franchise qb early in the next draft. ( Smokescreen?)

 

[Bodha]

Manti Te'o is the Andrew Luck of his class.



He is an elite ILB on the level of Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis. Hes damn near the smartest LB to ever come out of College. How many ILBs have been in the Heisman discussion? 1 and Not for a very long while.

So dont act like hes overrated or over valued. He is a 10/10. Future HOFr.


Id be thrilled to draft Te'o. Him + Washington would give us the best LB corps in Cardinals history.

If we were to somehow also find a great pass rusher, we might have the best LBs in the NFL.

 

[52brandon]

the kid is amazing on and off the field. He will be nothing but great for a team. He's highly talented, a natural leader, very smart, and grounded. The kid is the complete package. Any team will be lucky to add him to their lineup

 

[Dr. Jones]

Unless you have a guaranteed Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis you don't take an ILB in the top 10.

Throw the ball..... Rush the passer..... Protect the QB. That is what the top 10 picks need to be used for.

AJ Hawk, Lavar Arrington, and many others have proven how hard it is to evaluate the LB'er position.

 

[Krangodnzr]

If he's sitting on the board and we're up to pick, I can't lie, I'd consider him.

He's that good.

Daryl Washington and Manti Teo? Ridiculous! Imagine the issues teams would have accounting for two do-it-all LBs in the middle? Two LBs that can rush the passer and cover ground quickly.

 

[Krangodnzr]

AJ Hawk, Lavar Arrington, and many others have proven how hard it is to evaluate the LB'er position.

Neither of those two were/are as good as Teo. Arrington was a real turd burglar, and likely big time roid user. AJ Hawk wasn't in Teo's class even in college.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Neither of those two were/are as good as Teo. Arrington was a real turd burglar, and likely big time roid user. AJ Hawk wasn't in Teo's class even in college.

Dude.... Lavarr Arrington was a Heisman finalist and was blowing up people all year at Penn State. He was the #2 pick in the draft for a serious reason. He was a man child and (in all honesty) was making more impactful plays for the Nittany Lions than Teo has made this year. He was flat out INSANE that year. Then what.

Hawk was considered to have transcendent skills coming out of Ohio State. The complete LB'er. Then what.

Don't get me started on some of the others.....

 

[Phrazbit]

I always find it funny when people tab players as top 3 picks when they don't know who those top 3 teams will be.

Manti Te'o is a top 10 player in this draft. Where he winds up in the top 10 depends on what teams are in that group. My early guess is Buffalo.

A friend of mine is a big Bills fan and he despises Notre Dame... his head might explode if that happens.

 

[Dr. Jones]

The Bills need to address their secondary in a bad way IMO. He might go to Buffalo, but I could see Washington, Cleveland, Carolina, and Saints being all over this guy.

I will say it again for emphasis.... Throw the ball..... Rush the passer..... Protect the QB. That is what the top 10 picks need to be used for.

 

[az jam]

Unless you have a guaranteed Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis you don't take an ILB in the top 10.

Throw the ball..... Rush the passer..... Protect the QB. That is what the top 10 picks need to be used for.

AJ Hawk, Lavar Arrington, and many others have proven how hard it is to evaluate the LB'er position.

Totally agree, few lbs taken in top 10 have been worthy of a top 10 pick.

 

[Chopper0080]

The Bills need to address their secondary in a bad way IMO. He might go to Buffalo, but I could see Washington, Cleveland, Carolina, and Saints being all over this guy.

I will say it again for emphasis.... Throw the ball..... Rush the passer..... Protect the QB. That is what the top 10 picks need to be used for.

The Bills need a leader on defense which is what they would think they are getting in Te'o.

 

[Bodha]

Unless you have a guaranteed Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis you don't take an ILB in the top 10.

Throw the ball..... Rush the passer..... Protect the QB. That is what the top 10 picks need to be used for.

AJ Hawk, Lavar Arrington, and many others have proven how hard it is to evaluate the LB'er position.

There was nothing ever special about Hawk or Arrington. Willis wasnt even as hyped as Manti.



Te'o is that rare, Lewis type leader and talent.

There are no guarantees ever at any position.

Larry was one of the best WR prospects ever. Was it guaranteed hed be great? No, but pretty damn close.

Is it guaranteed Manti will be great? No, but pretty damn close.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

If he's sitting on the board and we're up to pick, I can't lie, I'd consider him.

He's that good.

Daryl Washington and Manti Teo? Ridiculous! Imagine the issues teams would have accounting for two do-it-all LBs in the middle? Two LBs that can rush the passer and cover ground quickly.

Then they realize no matter how awesome our defense is, our O-line and QB situation more than tips the balance back to them.

 

[Shane]

If he doesn't play QB or OL who cares

 

[Duckjake]

If he doesn't play QB or OL who cares

You should because the Cards aren't going to pick an offensive lineman in the first round or a QB. They got the offensive linemen they wanted last year and they're not going to select high enough to get a top QB which I don't think they'd do anyway. I know those guys. Been watching them draft for 40 years.

So if we want to watch them win games our best hope is if they pick up a star Defensive player.

And right now the biggest hole in the defense is at the SILB spot. It's also a position where a rookie can step in and be a factor right away.

3-12 in games where the opponent has rushed for over 150 yards '10-'12.

The last 5 games the Cards, in a passing league, have allowed 145 yards per game passing, all 5 opponents held under 210 passing, and lost them all.

 

[Dr. Jones]

There was nothing ever special about Hawk or Arrington. Willis wasnt even as hyped as Manti.



Te'o is that rare, Lewis type leader and talent.

There are no guarantees ever at any position.

Larry was one of the best WR prospects ever. Was it guaranteed hed be great? No, but pretty damn close.

Is it guaranteed Manti will be great? No, but pretty damn close.

IIRC you just graduated from college. How can you possibly remember with clarity what happened in 1999 and 1998? What were you? 8 to 10 years old?

Let me tell you how I remember it..... Lavar Arrington was the top defensive player in the country. He won games by himself with INT's and goal line stops. He was a man child that was easily considered the top LB'er in a decade and was considered a can't miss prospect.

Also...... How can you know Teo will be a Ray Lewis style leader when Ray Lewis wasn't a "Ray Lewis style leader" in college?

 

[Stout]

There was nothing ever special about Hawk or Arrington. Willis wasnt even as hyped as Manti.



Te'o is that rare, Lewis type leader and talent.

There are no guarantees ever at any position.

Larry was one of the best WR prospects ever. Was it guaranteed hed be great? No, but pretty damn close.

Is it guaranteed Manti will be great? No, but pretty damn close.

If that's your stance, it is clear you know absolutely nothing. Hawk? Who cares. Arrington? He was a beast, and it was a no-brainer he would be picked that high. He was an athletic freak that the pundits figured to be a sure thing. Granted, the pundits were wrong, but he was one of, if not the, best player in college football at the time. He mainly had a ton of attitude problems in the NFL.

 

[Buckybird]

Let me be the 3rd to disagree with Bodha about Lavar...he was considered a star & had one of the best years I've ever seen a LB ever have at Penn St.

He was a man among boys, dominated opponents & was a nasty player before the NFL. One difference though is I believe Arrington was a OLB mostly at PSU as well as the Skins.

I think Teo's gonna be a good one, but to say he's a future HOF right now is ridiculous...so were Tom Cousineau & Shane Conlan.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Dude.... Lavarr Arrington was a Heisman finalist and was blowing up people all year at Penn State. He was the #2 pick in the draft for a serious reason. He was a man child and (in all honesty) was making more impactful plays for the Nittany Lions than Teo has made this year. He was flat out INSANE that year. Then what.

Hawk was considered to have transcendent skills coming out of Ohio State. The complete LB'er. Then what.

Don't get me started on some of the others.....

Arrington didn't play inside, did he?

 

[john h]

They say there is no Jake Long or Andrew Luck in this class and his

value will rise because of it.

USA Today had the top QBs listed at this time for next years draft and other information about then. Good discussion on QBs these days making an immediate impact. That is in the Monday edition. I think Tyler Wilson was 3 or 4 and they said that the loss of Petrino as coach hurt him bad in play calling. They failed to mention his three wide receivers from last year are now all in the NFL. That sort of hurts you would think.

 

[splitsecond]

Teo would be an epic replacement for Paris Lenon. Remember, Paris is the captain and general on the field, and Teo has the smarts to do that as well. I would not be upset if we took him, despite our other glaring needs. Could literally be a top 10 all time defense with a LB core of Acho, Dwash, Teo and Scho

 

[Bodha]

IIRC you just graduated from college. How can you possibly remember with clarity what happened in 1999 and 1998? What were you? 8 to 10 years old?

Let me tell you how I remember it..... Lavar Arrington was the top defensive player in the country. He won games by himself with INT's and goal line stops. He was a man child that was easily considered the top LB'er in a decade and was considered a can't miss prospect.

Also...... How can you know Teo will be a Ray Lewis style leader when Ray Lewis wasn't a "Ray Lewis style leader" in college?

No, I didnt know Arrington in College. I was too young. But I know Arrington as a pro. I know Hawk as both.

In my defense, if Hawk and Arrington were such light years apart, why would you put them in the same sentence?

*And hes a Lewis type leader in terms of being a field general. The Notre Dame D is night and day without the presence of a ILB. Few ILBs have that effect.

Not the motivational speaker Ray is. Nobody is like that.

If that's your stance, it is clear you know absolutely nothing. Hawk? Who cares. Arrington? He was a beast, and it was a no-brainer he would be picked that high. He was an athletic freak that the pundits figured to be a sure thing. Granted, the pundits were wrong, but he was one of, if not the, best player in college football at the time. He mainly had a ton of attitude problems in the NFL.

See above.

I didnt know Arrington in College, but since I know him well as a pro I inferred he was overrated, just like Hawk was overrated, because Dr.Jones put them side by side.

I think Teo's gonna be a good one, but to say he's a future HOF right now is ridiculous...so were Tom Cousineau & Shane Conlan.

Speculating on guy's future isnt something I invented.

Tyler Wilson is our next franchise QB. Youll see that phrase about 100x across this board. Who says hes a franchise anything? People think that because of what theyve seen in college and are foreshadowing.


Luck has only played 8 games and is already being praise as a 'great' QB in this league. So dont say that my appraisal of Manti is ridiculous, everyone does it.

2 years straight hes been the top defensive player in College. This year he is a front runner for the Heisman. THE HEISMAN.

Now the hiesman doesnt mean much since guys like Reggie Bush and Mark Ingram have won it, but for an ILB to even be in the discussion, dictates incredible accomplishment.

Id prefer we take a lineman, but Id be thrilled for Te'o. Even if we didnt need him at the time, would you have liked to draft Ed Reed? Of course.

Te'o is in the vain of Fitz and Adrian in terms of professionalism, work ethic and team leadership.

 

[Borderrat]

I was at Notre Dame last Saturday for the game against Pitt. My friend's nephew is a walk on at ND and good friends with Teo. We stayed and met the players after the game. Very nice kid, plays well and is a leader. He got the crowd fired up and they love him there.

As much as we need OL, QB, RB and another DB (my opinion only) I would take him if he is there. We passed on Urlacher, Odgen, Suggs just to name a few. Take Teo and hope a OL is there later or through free agency. Our defense is getting run over thesed days.