Kirk to Jaguars

[football karma]

If kirk showed he could be a true #1, we would have re-signed him.

even strong #2.

 

[SoonerLou]

Rondale may be more gifted than Kirk. However, its going to be up to him and Kyler to have that same level of trust. Kyler had no problem firing it up to Kirk. He seems hesitant with Rondale probably because of his catch radius.

 

[AZ Native]

Good for Kirk. Now let’s bring in some more affordable receivers.

 

[SoonerLou]

Good for Kirk. Now let’s bring in some more affordable receivers.

I really thought we'd get Wilson from the Cowboys.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Russ Smith]

The guy who's happy about this deal is Terry McLaurin and his agent, the guy who's furious is the Washington GM that has to sign McLaurin. Imagine what he'll get?

They were already happy as Mike Williams got 3 years 60 with 40 guaranteed and 28 the first year, but Kirk's deal ups the ante. PFF estimated 4 years 75 million for McLaurin last week. I would assume that's more like 85 million now?

 

[Phrazbit]

Comical. Hopkins missed half the season and Kirk spent all of it playing like a #3 guy. He is as likely to have the ball bounce off his helmet as he is to score a TD, contract is triple his worth.

 

[cardncubfan]

Well seems there are worse GM’s than Keim. Congrats to Christian, hometown kid did well for himself.

Actually there are quite a few.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

With the loss of Kirk, I'm glad we haven't traded away Andy Isabella.

 

[Dr. Jones]

The Jags are drunk.

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Jags are drunk.

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YEEEEEEEUCK

 

[reebokalone2001]

Rondale may be more gifted than Kirk. However, its going to be up to him and Kyler to have that same level of trust. Kyler had no problem firing it up to Kirk. He seems hesitant with Rondale probably because of his catch radius.

My interpretation on that is Kyler doesn't always trust his own accuracy.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Not really. You could argue Byron Murphy after Peterson. Humphries with Veldheer. To be fair not a ton of examples. I would say that Moore at least played meaningful snaps prior to them making the move which is a nice change.

Meaningful yes but not nearly enough, everyone will see in 2022 how good Moore is after the catch if they just put him in the slot & teach him the full route tree.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

With the loss of Kirk, I'm glad we haven't traded away Andy Isabella.

That's because we can't give him away lol.

 

[reebokalone2001]

The guy who's happy about this deal is Terry McLaurin and his agent, the guy who's furious is the Washington GM that has to sign McLaurin. Imagine what he'll get?

They were already happy as Mike Williams got 3 years 60 with 40 guaranteed and 28 the first year, but Kirk's deal ups the ante. PFF estimated 4 years 75 million for McLaurin last week. I would assume that's more like 85 million now?

I want every team to break a bank when signing FAs and screw up their cap sooner than later. That left us more chances to get value on cheap deals.

 

[wa52lz]

YEEEEEEEUCK

And people bad mouth Keim's ability to put together a WR room

 

[reebokalone2001]

The Jags are drunk.

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That's more than half of the 2022 cap number tied up to one (maybe two, including TE) position group and none of them is top-notch.

 

[GatorAZ]

This is probably one of the worst NFL contracts for a non-QB I’ve ever seen

Washington once paid Albert Haynesworth $35m to fail a conditioning test…

 

[Dayman]

At least we won't have to watch him try to return punts anymore.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Cheesebeef]

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This is just kinda funny.

That contract tho... great googly moogly.

Can you all imagine if we made a move this ridiculous?

I guess we already had that moment with the double barreled 5 year GM/Coach extensions.

One thing is for sure... this off-season hasn’t been boring so far.

 

[BritCard]

What if Kirk actually produces like a number one wide receiver in Jacksonville? I’m not predicting it just saying what if

This. He just had basically 1000 yards on 103 targets. Part of Jacksonville's reasoning I assume is that he can play inside and outside and if they give him 120-130 targets he can give them 1250 yards.

It's still strong money. More than I would have paid him, but I still think Kirk has far more than we allowed him to show here and we just messed him around and used him poorly.

Going to be tough for him to outperform that deal though.

 

[TheCardFan]

Part of Jacksonville's reasoning I assume is that he can play inside and outside and if they give him 120-130 targets he can give them 1250 yards.

Kirk was playing against the #3 CB most of the time with us. Now, he will be getting #1 or #2 at worst. I don't think that bodes well for his game.

 

[BritCard]

JC Jackson by far the best cornerback available got a deal that was worth less in average LOL

I'm always super weary of Patriots CB's in FA. Those raised in that system generally haven't done well elsewhere.

Malcolm Butler wasn't the same player. Logan Ryan dropped off a cliff and converted to safety. Stephon Gilmore hasn't played much since leaving.

And Jackson only started the last 2 years. I don't think he's the slam dunk great signing people think he is.


On a side note. How the hell did Gilmore make the pro bowl last year? He only played 305 snaps and allowed 68% completions (by far a career worst). Pro Bowl voting sucks.

 

[BritCard]

Probably the best example. Budda was a different type of player at the same position but still impactful.

Do bad examples count?

Drafted Floyd to replace Fitz.