Kliff Fired

[slanidrac16]

Good bye Kliff. Time to move on.

 

[Stout]

You may be right but he could be a decent NFL OC for the right organization. The HC over him would be the clock manager and make the key decisions on playing calling especially on 4th down. No argument here just feel that he was over his head on running the entire team versus just being an OC.

But what exactly is his offense? What innovative schemes does he run? What makes him stand out? Plenty, but they're all bad lol

 

[az jam]

But what exactly is his offense? What innovative schemes does he run? What makes him stand out? Plenty, but they're all bad lol

The Mike Leach Air Raid.

 

[pemory09]

The Mike Leach Air Raid.

More like The Kliff Kingsbury Season Fade.

 

[Jasper]

KM has been really quiet since KK’s firing. I mean no comment at all? So has DHop.

 

[DVontel]

KM has been really quiet since KK’s firing. I mean no comment at all? So has DHop.

Neither has Budda.

lol, what do you want them to say?

Also, just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened in private. Everything doesn’t need to be publicized.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Neither has Budda.

lol, what do you want them to say.

Also, just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened in private. Everything doesn’t need to be publicized.

The only person to really say much of anything was Brown...wishing Kliff could have had a chance with a healthy team. Other than that everyone has been silent.

 

[Linderbee]

i dunno

Kliff is still owed $10-$20mm over the next few years with lots of free time

hard to do better than that

Sometimes it's more about status than money. She may not be the type that wants to be seen with a "loser" (Not saying Kliff is, just saying some women may view it that way)

 

[dreamcastrocks]

i dunno

Kliff is still owed $10-$20mm over the next few years with lots of free time

hard to do better than that

Reports are that Kliff signed a 5.5M per year extension. This is 27.5M or so.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Then he will be unemployed. No way he gets a NFL coaching job. Maybe he can be a high school head coach.

Yep. He gets hired again he has to give some or possibly all of the money back. To go back to the NFL, he must REALLY love coaching more than money.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[Jersey Girl]

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Key words being "at the moment."

Not sure what other teams have seen from him that warrant them reaching out to him being an OC. Lateral passes? No throwing downfield? Going for it on 4th and 2 on your own 30? Getting a delay of game after calling a timeout?

I'm not hating on Kliff. He just wasn't cut out for the NFL (or college, even). He's looked beat down most of the season and I'm sure he hasn't felt like he was in the best working environment (been there, done that). I never thought he should have been given the job in the first place. That said, I'm glad the Cards have moved on and I wish him well in the future.

 

[ajcardfan]

Key words being "at the moment."

Not sure what other teams have seen from him that warrant them reaching out to him being an OC. Lateral passes? No throwing downfield? Going for it on 4th and 2 on your own 30? Getting a delay of game after calling a timeout?

The play calls can be questioned. The other two issues are HC issues he won't deal with as an OC.

This was a very bad season. But the offense did, undeniably, have hot stretches were it looked good in the previous three. He will be an OC and probably will be for a long time. That's just my feeling of course.

When he does come back to face us as the OC for the other team we will probably get 40 hung on us.

 

[JerkFace]

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[gmabel830]

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I saw it reported as OC.. very surprised he decided to do any interviews this cycle.

 

[unseenaz]

I saw it reported as OC.. very surprised he decided to do any interviews this cycle.

a month on Thailand will humble any man.

 

[ajcardfan]

a month on Thailand will humble any man.

Thailand will recharge your batteries. Expect for that battery in the prostate. That one gets drained.

 

[oaken1]

Yep. He gets hired again he has to give some or possibly all of the money back. To go back to the NFL, he must REALLY love coaching more than money.

no... he doesnt have to give any money back.
the contract he signed just assures him a guaranteed minimum income during the life of the contract.
if he takes a job as an OC for 300k, then the Cardinals can pay him 300k less... but if he were to get a job paying more than his contract Mike wouldnt have to pay him anything.

think of it like NFL Coach unemployment

 

[oaken1]

Key words being "at the moment."

Not sure what other teams have seen from him that warrant them reaching out to him being an OC. Lateral passes? No throwing downfield? Going for it on 4th and 2 on your own 30? Getting a delay of game after calling a timeout?

I'm not hating on Kliff. He just wasn't cut out for the NFL (or college, even). He's looked beat down most of the season and I'm sure he hasn't felt like he was in the best working environment (been there, done that). I never thought he should have been given the job in the first place. That said, I'm glad the Cards have moved on and I wish him well in the future.

when you watch the tape...we always had guys open. That counts when you have a quarterback that will throw to them.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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The dude who's job it was to scheme against and stop Kliff, knows exactly what he can bring to the offense. As was mentioned already, just about every play had dudes running wide open.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

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Hey DeMeco I have these sideways pass plays that you'll just love

 

[bankybruce]

no... he doesnt have to give any money back.
the contract he signed just assures him a guaranteed minimum income during the life of the contract.
if he takes a job as an OC for 300k, then the Cardinals can pay him 300k less... but if he were to get a job paying more than his contract Mike wouldnt have to pay him anything.

think of it like NFL Coach unemployment

And that's only if there is off-set language in the contract. I'm sure there is, but that is the caveat.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

no... he doesnt have to give any money back.
the contract he signed just assures him a guaranteed minimum income during the life of the contract.
if he takes a job as an OC for 300k, then the Cardinals can pay him 300k less... but if he were to get a job paying more than his contract Mike wouldnt have to pay him anything.

think of it like NFL Coach unemployment

Not so fast.

Business of Football: How Fired Coaches’ Contracts and the End of the NFL Season Work - Sports Illustrated

From terms like "with cause" to "mitigation" to possible arbitration with the league, here's what it looks like when a deal is terminated.

www.si.com

Mitigation​

Guarantees in coaching contracts are offset guarantees, meaning the firing team’s financial liability is reduced if and when the coach secures work and is paid by another team during the term of the contract. While the firing team has an obligation to pay off the contract, the fired coach has a duty to mitigate, meaning he has an obligation to seek and find a similar coaching position with another team (that can be a college team as well). In other words, the fired coach cannot simply sit and collect his paycheck; he has to mitigate and try to find another job, with the payments from the new job offsetting the amount owed from the firing team.

 

[oaken1]

Not so fast.

Business of Football: How Fired Coaches’ Contracts and the End of the NFL Season Work - Sports Illustrated

From terms like "with cause" to "mitigation" to possible arbitration with the league, here's what it looks like when a deal is terminated.

www.si.com

Mitigation​

Guarantees in coaching contracts are offset guarantees, meaning the firing team’s financial liability is reduced if and when the coach secures work and is paid by another team during the term of the contract. While the firing team has an obligation to pay off the contract, the fired coach has a duty to mitigate, meaning he has an obligation to seek and find a similar coaching position with another team (that can be a college team as well). In other words, the fired coach cannot simply sit and collect his paycheck; he has to mitigate and try to find another job, with the payments from the new job offsetting the amount owed from the firing team.

Yup. Thats what i said.
Coach unemployment.

 

[LA Redbird]

Ryans: "So on first and 15 after we've taken a delay of game penalty, we line up in shotgun and the QB throws to WR4 3 yards behind the LOS and 2 yards from the sideline where there are also 3 defenders converging to stop the play for a loss?"

Clownsbury:"Exactly."

Ryans: "Dammit, you're hired!"