Kolb Will Be Fine

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Kolb Will Be Fine

I am not kidding.

Not much of an off-season. An entirely new team and playbook. Crappy OL and predictable play calling from the sidelines. Three of the first five games on the road.

Kolb's postgame comments in Minnesota point to players not being united and giving their all (off the field).

"It starts with meetings, showing up to work on time, getting in early, getting your work done, and all the stuff a professional is supposed to do. Maybe it takes a game like this to figure that out."

Not sure who he was calling out, but maybe his message will find its intended targets.

All excuses, I know, but we're still only a few points from being 4-1.

The offense needs to be more creative and figure out how to protect Kolb longer or get the ball out quicker.

By the end of the year I predict most people will feel comfortable with Kolb as the QB of the near future.

Don't burn your #4 jerseys just yet.

Just my opinion.

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Well, if a poor OL is in fact a big contributor and I believe it is. How do we fix that this year?
 
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Well, if a poor OL is in fact a big contributor and I believe it is. How do we fix that this year?

I do not know. How do the good teams build a line and keep it good? :shrug:

We have always had OL problems, IMHO.

When was the last time we had a QB who felt completely safe behind our line?
 

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Well, if a poor OL is in fact a big contributor and I believe it is. How do we fix that this year?

Can't talent isn't there..

Agree with OP
 

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I do not know. How do the good teams build a line and keep it good? :shrug:

We have always had OL problems, IMHO.

When was the last time we had a QB who felt completely safe behind our line?

Jim Hart I believe in the 70''s. He couldn't even run and was sacked only 8 times one year.
 
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Ok. Then how will we be comfortable with Kolb by the end of this season if we can't protect him?

I am well aware we have no talent.

Whenever possible - we need to take some shots down the field and get the defenses to back off a bit.

Even a little creativity might buy Kolb some time or burn a defense here and there.

A large part of the problem is that defenses can pretty much figure out what we intend to do and then just set out to stop us. Heck, fans in the crowd can watch the Cards line up for a play and tell you what's coming.

Two offensive weapons I wish we had and that would have made a huge difference this season - Tim Hightower (for blocking as well as running/receiving) and Breaston (for receiving and for reverses).
 

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I'm already comfy with Kolb... He has beaten wife syndrome that's why he is so damn skittish. You can hardly blame him. He has already been literally blasted back there at least 5 times this season. He has no faith in his OL and it shows.
 
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There have got to be some undrafted/unsigned guys that want to play in the NFL that could outperform some of our linemen. Bring 'em in.

If we cannot fix it during the season - it had better be a priority in our next draft.
 

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Respectfully disagree. Whiz said they won't tweak his throwing motion and that spells disaster. He hit a d-lineman in the head with one of his throws. I forsee either a lot more batted balls if he stays in the pocket or numerous throwaways when he rolls to his right like always and the D only has to cover one side of the field. His trajectory is WAY too low. That's my biggest concern with him.
 

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Respectfully disagree. Whiz said they won't tweak his throwing motion and that spells disaster. He hit a d-lineman in the head with one of his throws. I forsee either a lot more batted balls if he stays in the pocket or numerous throwaways when he rolls to his right like always and the D only has to cover one side of the field. His trajectory is WAY too low. That's my biggest concern with him.

Warner had a lot of tipped balls too lest anyone forgets.. That's not really an issue with me. It was only a real problem in last game when he had 4. And three of them the DL was up and getting their hands up up. He need protection more than anything.
 

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Kolb Will Be Fine

I am not kidding.

Not much of an off-season. An entirely new team and playbook. Crappy OL and predictable play calling from the sidelines. Three of the first five games on the road.

Kolb's postgame comments in Minnesota point to players not being united and giving their all (off the field).

"It starts with meetings, showing up to work on time, getting in early, getting your work done, and all the stuff a professional is supposed to do. Maybe it takes a game like this to figure that out."

Not sure who he was calling out, but maybe his message will find its intended targets.

All excuses, I know, but we're still only a few points from being 4-1.

The offense needs to be more creative and figure out how to protect Kolb longer or get the ball out quicker.

By the end of the year I predict most people will feel comfortable with Kolb as the QB of the near future.

Don't burn your #4 jerseys just yet.

Just my opinion.

An "optimistic" Dark Sider... :jedi:


I respect him for putting all of that out that. It is not an easy thing to do but he was pissed. However, all of those things he complained about fall back on to the HC which is why I don't think Wiz is doing a good job with you guys. He was supposed to kick all the lazy guys off the team before the season started.
 

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I am optimistic that Kolb will develop into a good starting QB. He isn't there yet. The lockout isn't even a glimmer of an excuse either. Andy Dalton, the rookie that Cincy was ridiculed for taking so high, is playing well, as is Cam Newton. Kolb was already a veteran NFL QB. He does NOT get that excuse.
 

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He's getting worse every week. I'm comfortable thinking that he'll not be the wrist QB in the NFL with some seasoning, but he's never going to be a Top 15 player, either. There's nothing he's great at except maybe convincing fans and coaches to make excuses for him.

We've been saddled with a homeless man's Jay Cutler for the next four years. Enjoy.
 

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I think Kevin is fine and a good long term QB. He is not getting through his reads, their are players open many times, He isnot seeing them as much as missing them. He holds on to the ball too long, and has not connected on that roll out away from pressure. that can all change with time in this offense.

I still think this offense puts to much pressure on the oline- hence to much on Kolb... more max protect, This oline gives him ALOT of time ALOT of the time. Some still pick at the failed plays but they have given him more than most QB's get.
 

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I'm already comfy with Kolb... He has beaten wife syndrome that's why he is so damn skittish. You can hardly blame him. He has already been literally blasted back there at least 5 times this season. He has no faith in his OL and it shows.

BS. He got this within... one quarter? Because he's been breaking the pocket since the season started. Sorry, if that's the case he's a grade A *****.
 

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I am optimistic that Kolb will develop into a good starting QB. He isn't there yet. The lockout isn't even a glimmer of an excuse either. Andy Dalton, the rookie that Cincy was ridiculed for taking so high, is playing well, as is Cam Newton. Kolb was already a veteran NFL QB. He does NOT get that excuse.

agreed. Hasselback's playing a hell of a lot better than him also.
 

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He's getting worse every week. I'm comfortable thinking that he'll not be the wrist QB in the NFL with some seasoning, but he's never going to be a Top 15 player, either. There's nothing he's great at except maybe convincing fans and coaches to make excuses for him.

We've been saddled with a homeless man's Jay Cutler for the next four years. Enjoy.

Sadly, there is nothing I've seen to convince me otherwise.
 

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I am optimistic that Kolb will develop into a good starting QB. He isn't there yet. The lockout isn't even a glimmer of an excuse either. Andy Dalton, the rookie that Cincy was ridiculed for taking so high, is playing well, as is Cam Newton. Kolb was already a veteran NFL QB. He does NOT get that excuse.
In Kolb's defense, those two are learning their first system and everything has been consisten. Kolb has been taught to play one way and now has to forget that and learn to play another way. NOt really an excuse, but that is the case.
 

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In Kolb's defense, those two are learning their first system and everything has been consisten. Kolb has been taught to play one way and now has to forget that and learn to play another way. NOt really an excuse, but that is the case.

They're running the TCU offense with the Bengals? Which is the same system Dalton learned in high school?

It's remarkable that Cam Newton didn't have to learn a new system for Carolina, because that certainly looks different from what Auburn ran last year. I'm surprised the Tigers didn't use him more as a pocket passer since they had all those plays in their system.

It's definitely an excuse. BTW, are you still down on Alex Smith? He certainly looks like an inferior player to Kevin Kolb right now. That "Getting better every week" sure highlights all his weaknesses. It's not like having the worst coaching staff in football for his entire career might have shackled his development.
 

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They're running the TCU offense with the Bengals? Which is the same system Dalton learned in high school?

It's remarkable that Cam Newton didn't have to learn a new system for Carolina, because that certainly looks different from what Auburn ran last year. I'm surprised the Tigers didn't use him more as a pocket passer since they had all those plays in their system.

It's definitely an excuse. BTW, are you still down on Alex Smith? He certainly looks like an inferior player to Kevin Kolb right now. That "Getting better every week" sure highlights all his weaknesses. It's not like having the worst coaching staff in football for his entire career might have shackled his development.
I take it you disagree then?
 

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I don't think Kolb will be fine.

The scrambling doesn't bother me too much, the sacks don't either.

What bothers me is he misses open recievers.

What bothers me is he doesn't seem to handle adversity well. "This isn't working so I will go back to what I know (which doesn't work either or is worse)"

What bothers me is in the clutch he chokes.....coming from Philly I guess that should be a given. :D

I don't see him getting better, I do see him getting worse tho.
 

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I don't think Kolb will be fine.

The scrambling doesn't bother me too much, the sacks don't either.

What bothers me is he misses open recievers.

What bothers me is he doesn't seem to handle adversity well. "This isn't working so I will go back to what I know (which doesn't work either or is worse)"

What bothers me is in the clutch he chokes.....coming from Philly I guess that should be a given. :D

I don't see him getting better, I do see him getting worse tho.

I initially struggled to find an NFL comparison to Kevin Kolb, and then I was watching the Bears game and I saw that Kolb is a less-talented version of Jay Cutler. Cutler is probably (definitely) a bigger ****** and has leadership problems, but he also has superior arm strength and athleticism.

The problem is that if Kolb is a poor-man's Jay Cutler, what's the point of locking in on an inferior version of a guy who is maybe just a Top 15 QB?
 

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It's definitely an excuse. BTW, are you still down on Alex Smith? He certainly looks like an inferior player to Kevin Kolb right now.

Question wasn't aimed at me, but if I'm a GM and offered Alex Smith for Kevin Kolb straight up right now, I'm sticking with Kolb (for now at least). That being said, there's really no arguing that Smith has outplayed Kolb at this point this season.
 
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