Kolb's my guy...for better or worse

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yes, he is a complete bitch in the pocket sometimes. But I just rewatched the drive he had on my DVR. Very poised, very, very accurate. He'll probably suck, because all card QBs do...even KW did. But IF he is put in the right position to succeed, I think he seriously has the talent to do it.

Now, he might now, because he is a cardinal and a QB and that is a dastardly combo. But at the very least, I love his accuracy.

John is wonderfully calm in the pocket, but he makes really poor decisions and doesn't seem to realize that 11 in cards gear is on the team.

Kolb is the better QB, but maybe not the RIGHT QB for the team.

Regardless, I love an underdog, and Team Kolb it is! (plus, he's a genuinely nice guy)
 

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"A complete bitch in the pocket sometimes" and this O-line describes all of our QBs.
 
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"A complete bitch in the pocket sometimes" and this O-line describes all of our QBs.

No bro..John actually hangs in there. Kolb has a history of getting chicken with the head cut off in the pocket and literally runs himself into sacks.

When the blitz comes he becomes what my kids now call "kolb cat" which is this guy:



I love him, but he needs to learn to Stay, rover, stay...when he's in the pocket. Look, scan, release.

That's ALL he has to do. I think he is very good at looking, scanning and releasing, but he is murder in the pocket.
 

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No bro..John actually hangs in there. Kolb has a history of getting chicken with the head cut off in the pocket and literally runs himself into sacks.

When the blitz comes he becomes what my kids now call "kolb cat" which is this guy:



I love him, but he needs to learn to Stay, rover, stay...when he's in the pocket. Look, scan, release.

That's ALL he has to do. I think he is very good at looking, scanning and releasing, but he is murder in the pocket.
You mean the guy we call Double Duece (I know you remember how he got that handle)? :biglaugh:Come on man!! I like them both, I agree with Skelton being more durable and Kolb being the better choice if no injuries occur, but they all look like ******* behind this line at some point in time. :D
 
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He IS double deuce!! But Kolb holds a special place in my heart as being one of the few people on earth that literally ran INTO sacks...created them on offense, and made the CARDINALS o-line look even worse than they were. At his worst, Kolb is atrocious. At his best, he is light years beyond Skelton's best. But unfortunately, they both play at the same level most of the time.
 

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OK then: Donald and D-Dog are essentially both right about our QB's. Our QB situation is what it is. Hence the organization must live with it, AND moreover, Whiz must learn to find ways to enhance it and 'grow' it while on the run.

So far, he has done the right thing this year, by selecting Skelton as the starter, (which then took the pressure off Kolb to perform when Skelton was hurt). Now the job gets tougher and more complicated. He will need to nurture the bit of confidence that Kolb has developed in himself, and do it without getting Kolb injured before Skelton is ready to come back and take over the reins.

The trick for Whiz now is, (having realized that Kolb can successfully operate the no-huddle offense), finding out how much of that offense he can incorporate to make our offense successful against future opponents without wearing out our defense. As he does that, he must also discover how to manage some kind of running game, that can use clock during the no-huddle. This will not be an easy task against the defense that Bellicik rolled out against his opponent last week. They completely stymied the run game against them.

This will be a crucial week for Whiz and company to prepare for. Nothing will come easily, as the East Coast road game, and super early start will conspire with the Pat's talent and expertise to create a VERY formidable set of obstacles to overcome. That said, knowledgable fans will be hesitant to get on the team, and the coaching staff for everything that they cannot overcome in this game. I am not saying that we simply chalk up a loss this week, but rather that we not be overly critical of a (young and new) offensive line, or an overtaxed coaching staff if things don't go exactly as planned.

What we do have going for us, is that this is a gritty team that is going to New England this week. They will work until exhaustion to keep from failing. I believe that we are better conditioned right now than NE is, and this may enhance our chances of success. We are also much younger in our back-up roles, so we should expect youthful mental mistakes to occur. If the staff can manage the level of mistakes to those we made last week, or somewhat fewer mistakes than last week, we may manage to be close enough to hang with Brady and company, so that we have some hope of salvaging a win late in the game. Keeping the score low will be key to that end.

Undoubtedly, this will not be an easy week for the coaches OR the players. It is, however, a game that they might relish being able to rise to the level of the opponent. If so, maybe we can find a way to hang in there and compete to the point that our conditioning can overcome their talent. GO CARDS !!!!!!!!!!
 
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He IS double deuce!! But Kolb holds a special place in my heart as being one of the few people on earth that literally ran INTO sacks...created them on offense, and made the CARDINALS o-line look even worse than they were. At his worst, Kolb is atrocious. At his best, he is light years beyond Skelton's best. But unfortunately, they both play at the same level most of the time.

This was always my point throughout the whole debate (except I might not say "light years" better, maybe just "significantly better")

But if Kolb is broken, if he's become gun shy, or has checked out mentally, then I concede that you go with #19.

He did not look broken on Sunday.
 

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Kolb better be the guy because Skelton is terrible. If Kolb can't do anything, and I don't think he can, this season will get real tough for the Defense since there will be no running game this season and they'll be spending a lot of time on the field.

Its sad to see Ryan Williams doing a Leland McElroy imitation because there is almost nowhere to run. I should loan them one of my guitars so at least there'd be a guitar to play.
 
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whoever's on the field is my guy... and it's usually for the worse with these two!
 

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whoever's on the field is my guy... and it's usually for the worse with these two!
this. I thought Skelton looked good in the 1st half, but Kolb's drive was quite impressive. I will cheer for whoever is wearing a Cardinals helmet on Sundays though. Done with picking a side in the QB controversy
 

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this. I thought Skelton looked good in the 1st half, but Kolb's drive was quite impressive. I will cheer for whoever is wearing a Cardinals helmet on Sundays though. Done with picking a side in the QB controversy

yup... especially when you realize you're picking between crap and poop. one has peanuts in it and one has corn... but that's pretty much the entire difference between the two IMO.
 

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yup... especially when you realize you're picking between crap and poop. one has peanuts in it and one has corn... but that's pretty much the entire difference between the two IMO.
lol, I dunno. Maybe if the blocking can hold up either will be ok. But I do agree that they're too similar to pick a clearly superior QB
 

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yup... especially when you realize you're picking between crap and poop. one has peanuts in it and one has corn... but that's pretty much the entire difference between the two IMO.

Peanuts can sometimes be painful on the way out with all those jagged edges, but corn poos lack structure and lead to long periods of wiping. I think peanuts give you a better chance of bathroom success. It might hurt a little but in the end you'll be a winner by saving time and toilet paper.
 

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yes, he is a complete bitch in the pocket sometimes. But I just rewatched the drive he had on my DVR. Very poised, very, very accurate. He'll probably suck, because all card QBs do...even KW did. But IF he is put in the right position to succeed, I think he seriously has the talent to do it.

Now, he might now, because he is a cardinal and a QB and that is a dastardly combo. But at the very least, I love his accuracy.

John is wonderfully calm in the pocket, but he makes really poor decisions and doesn't seem to realize that 11 in cards gear is on the team.

Kolb is the better QB, but maybe not the RIGHT QB for the team.

Regardless, I love an underdog, and Team Kolb it is! (plus, he's a genuinely nice guy)

I think without question Kolb should start after that sterling performance and I have been one of his most harsh critics. He still needs to prove it to me so now is the chance.
 

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I think without question Kolb should start after that sterling performance and I have been one of his most harsh critics. He still needs to prove it to me so now is the chance.
agreed. Aside from the fact that I think it would be irresponsible to start Skelton only a week after being carted off the field. Even if it is "only" a sprained ankle
 
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