Kyle Orton Waived

[Goldfield]

I would love to see Orton picked up just at a chance its an improvement. But it wont happen.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Orton stinks, and that is the reason he is being waived and Tebow got a chance to start....don't want him

 

[Duckjake]

Dang, we could have had Vince Young or Kyle Orton for nothing and we traded DRC and a 2012 second round pick for the 1-6 Kevin Kolb????

We're idiots.

 

[AZ Native]

Dang, we could have had Vince Young or Kyle Orton for nothing and we traded DRC and a 2012 second round pick for the 1-6 Kevin Kolb????

We're idiots.

It's what we do.

 

[desertdawg]

Kyle Orton Waived...

but I didn't wave back, just walked on by.

 

[TheHopToad]

Cards are near the top of the waiver line, and while I expect nothing to happen, Orton would be a better option than anything on our roster. Think the FO will even consider Orton?

Would be one of the dumbest things they could do. The Cards are not going to make the playoffs. Therefore, there is no point in blowing $2.5M on another journeyman QB to still not make the playoffs.

If the Colts dont make an attempt at him, then they should be called out for purposely going after Luck (making no attempt to get better).

Same as above for the Colts. Makes no sense for them to pay his contract when they are already eliminated from the playoffs.

The only teams he has any value to are the couple of team making a playoff push who lost their starters recently. He's not good enough to help us run the table and make the playoffs and he's not good enough to be our long term solution at QB so there's no reason to bring him in at this point.

+1

Not to mention the likelihood that even if the Cards did run the table the rest of the season, they still wouldn't make the playoffs anyway. Don't think 9-7 is going to cut it this year.

The only way he signs with a non-contender is if the entire league passes on him and somebody can pick him up for next to nothing. Even then, there's no point unless you see him as your QB of the future.

Orton's only value is as a rental to a contending team trying to make the playoffs. I'd guess Bears because they know him and he can probably get up to speed faster than anywhere else.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Instantly the best QB on the roster...

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

It's what we do.

Yep!

 

[seesred]

No!

GBR
40

 

[TJ]

It'll be someone who's in the mix for the postseason. The teams that come to mind are the teams who have had recent injuries to their starters: Bears, Chiefs, Texans. I wouldnt be surprised if the Lions make a run as insurance for an injury prone Stafford and to play "keep away" from the Bears.

 

[JC_AZ]

I don't see how he fits in the 'system' now.

What system? We have a system?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

What system? We have a system?

We do. It works.

 

[Dayman]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
The Chiefs claimed former Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton on waivers today, according to an NFL source.

The Tyler Palko era officially ends in KC.

This sucks for Orton and the Bears. It would have been cool to see him go back.

 

[Bodha]

Virtually guarantee KC gets him.

I only use my powers for good.


yes, there was a 2nd gunman

she crashed off Tahiti

47, 1 ,9, 14, 23 ,32 and 46

and hes buried under the 30 yard line at Giants stadium

 

[Arizona's Finest]

It's the draft compensation and probowl cb that made the Kolb deal a bitter pill to swallow...at least for me. We have plenty of cap room--even with Fitzgerald and kolbs deals.

LOL does anyone realize that Orton played like dog crap the first 6 games and was replaced by Tim freaking Tebow who is a option QB???

Orton without McDaniels sucks. I said that at the time and what the heck has happened since that hasn't 100 percent validated that? Why do people continue to talk about him like he is still a viable? You wish we would have given him 50 million Pariah? Seriously?

Because Kolb isnt the answer so far, doesnt mean we should have gone after Orton or that he would have been any good. In fact Orton has been FAR worse then Kolb. And hes older. And less of a team guy. And likely wouldnt have been a reason for Fitz to sign an extension.

But yeah other then that, trading for Orton would have been the right move.



Can't believe we are still having this conversation AFTER guy gets waived like a Practice Squad player.

 

[Phrazbit]

LOL does anyone realize that Orton played like dog crap the first 6 games and was replaced by Tim freaking Tebow who is a option QB???

Orton without McDaniels sucks. I said that at the time and what the heck has happened since that hasn't 100 percent validated that? Why do people continue to talk about him like he is still a viable? You wish we would have given him 50 million Pariah? Seriously?

Because Kolb isnt the answer so far, doesnt mean we should have gone after Orton or that he would have been any good. In fact Orton has been FAR worse then Kolb. And hes older. And less of a team guy. And likely wouldnt have been a reason for Fitz to sign an extension.

But yeah other then that, trading for Orton would have been the right move.



Can't believe we are still having this conversation AFTER guy gets waived like a Practice Squad player.

Orton and Kolb's stats were basically the same. They had the same W/L record too and Orton beat a much better team than the Carolina panthers. He got benched because the team caved into fan pressure and put in "the savior" (both on and off the field).

And Orton got waived because he was owed 2+ million and was no longer the starter. You think Kolb wont get waived within the next 16 months if he continues to play like he (and Orton) has?

There is no reason to think Kolb is better than Orton. Hell, based on their careers there is still no reason to think Kolb is even as good as Orton.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Orton and Kolb's stats were basically the same. They had the same W/L record too and Orton beat a much better team than the Carolina panthers. He got benched because the team caved into fan pressure and put in "the savior" (both on and off the field).

And Orton got waived because he was owed 2+ million and was no longer the starter. You think Kolb wont get waived within the next 16 months if he continues to play like he (and Orton) has?

There is no reason to think Kolb is better than Orton. Hell, based on their careers there is still no reason to think Kolb is even as good as Orton.

Ill give you a reason. In fact Ill give you three: Career Starts, Experience, and Opportunities given.

How anyone can compare Orton a multiple year vet who has started 67 career games and been in Denver for the past 4 years to Kolb who has 11 career starts and been on the Cardinals for 3 months is beyond me. Yeah there numbers were similar this year. If Kolb has been in Arizona for 4 years and has 8TDs and 7Ints over the same amount of games Ill concede to you he is a bust.

Also did you forget Orton was being shopped all offseason and no one wanted him? He also was shipped out of Chicago like a sack of potatoes. It wasnt the reasons you stated, they have literally been trying to get rid of him for a year and a half now.

You can't just look at box scores and ESPN player profiles to come up with opnions. Context is key.

 

[Phrazbit]

Ill give you a reason. In fact Ill give you three: Career Starts, Experience, and Opportunities given.

How anyone can compare Orton a multiple year vet who has started 67 career games and been in Denver for the past 4 years to Kolb who has 11 career starts and been on the Cardinals for 3 months is beyond me. Yeah there numbers were similar this year. If Kolb has been in Arizona for 4 years and has 8TDs and 7Ints over the same amount of games Ill concede to you he is a bust.

Also did you forget Orton was being shopped all offseason and no one wanted him? He also was shipped out of Chicago like a sack of potatoes. It wasnt the reasons you stated, they have literally been trying to get rid of him for a year and a half now.

You can't just look at box scores and ESPN player profiles to come up with opnions. Context is key.

You're the one who said that Kolb had been "FAR worse" than Orton, but when the stats clearly refute you it becomes unfair to compare them? What a joke.

And the Broncos shopped Orton for "literally a year and a half"... so we're just making stuff up now? Last season there were no rumors of Orton being traded, there were rumors this offseason. And its hilarious that you use the fact the he was traded from Chicago against him. How did Kevin Kolb become a Cardinal exactly? Oh, he was shopped around desperately for 8 months and only 1 team came calling... and its a team that is notorious for making awful QB decisions.

And none of your 3 reasons provide an reason to believe Kolb is a better quarterback. You can claim its too soon to judge (even though you already did) but none of those reasons provide any evidence that Kolb is better than Orton.

 

[schutd]

Kolb = Jury out.
Orton = passionless, gutless, suckfest.

Next topic.

 

[THESMEL]

The Cardinals would be a better team with Orton on the roster, than we are right now. bottom line. just like the chiefs are.

I would like the choices of Orton, Kolb, Skelton. Better than DA, Hall , Skelton.

Bartell does not matter, at all.

 

[schutd]

And I would argue that "right now" is completely irrelevant. I dont care if we're better "right now" I want to look beyond that and be better LONG TERM. Orton doesnt bring that to the table. Not one bit.

This board is FAR too myopic.

 

[THESMEL]

youropic

Well there is a mental health operation I know of.... called an optirectumy.....

Where you cut the line between your eyeballs and your butthole-so you aint giot such a crappy outlook on life.

Kolb and orton would be great competition for the future and a great 1-2 punch, long term.

And I would argue that "right now" is completely irrelevant. I dont care if we're better "right now" I want to look beyond that and be better LONG TERM. Orton doesnt bring that to the table. Not one bit.

This board is FAR too myopic.

 

[Pariah]

Context is key.

That's right, context IS key. Orton hasn't been traded and cut simply based on his performance. There's context to that as well.

Orton's a fine QB. He's not good enough to take a team on his back, but he's good enough to start in the NFL. Something that Kolb has yet to prove.

 

[Phrazbit]

And I would argue that "right now" is completely irrelevant. I dont care if we're better "right now" I want to look beyond that and be better LONG TERM. Orton doesnt bring that to the table. Not one bit.

This board is FAR too myopic.

If we are looking long term then neither Kolb or Orton were the answer.

 

[Pariah]

Orton continues to prove himself a more than capable nfl qb.