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Kyler: 64.3% - 1,664 - 7TD/4INT - 7.0/YPA - 87.7 Rating - 63.2 QBR - 238 yards rushing - 6.1/YPA - 2TD - 1 Fumble

Garoppolo: 69.9% - 1,163 - 7TD/5INT - 8.0/YPA - 95.2 Rating - 54.2 QBR - 10 yards rushing - 0.5/YPA - 1TD - 4 Fumbles

Goff: 62.2% - 1,272 - 7TD/7INT - 7.0/YPA - 80.8 Rating - 34.6 QBR - 13 yards rushing - 0.9/YPA - 1TD - 6 Fumbles

Murray: 4 years/35m
Garoppolo: 4 years/100m
Goff: 4 years/134m
 

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Worst Oline among that group

Do we have the worst WR group?

Kittle is a monster, but other than him I think we're better than the 49ers there..

However, Goodwin and Deebo would probably kill it in our offense.
 

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Worst Oline among that group

Do we have the worst WR group?

Kittle is a monster, but other than him I think we're better than the 49ers there..

However, Goodwin and Deebo would probably kill it in our offense.
I’m not sure if we have the worst OL out of that group.
 

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Not better than the 49ers.

Not sure its better than the Rams either. They got old quick, but a lot of their issues is Goff's awful pocket awareness.

When that Oline was great he was great.
I don’t think Goff is good, but their issues also have been on the OL as well. It’s just Whitworth & nobodies.
 

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I don’t think Goff is good, but their issues also have been on the OL as well. It’s just Whitworth & nobodies.
Dude is an enigma. Looks absolutely brilliant one game and horse poo the next.
 

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That qbr and rushing yardage are really the game changers here..
Thats RAW QBR (based on performance) his Total QBR (which factors quality of defense) is 56.2. Still the best, but not by much.

Lions and Seahawks games really hurt his QBR.

I still think the AWFUL start against the Lions was primarily due to not working our offense at all during the preseason (could make the case it led to our redzone issues as well, but whatever)

Total QBR since the 4th Qrt of the Lions is 65.1 (would be 6th)
Raw QBR since the 4th Qrt of the Lions is 68 (would be 7th)
 

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Thats RAW QBR (based on performance) his Total QBR (which factors quality of defense) is 56.2. Still the best, but not by much.

Lions and Seahawks games really hurt his QBR.

I still think the AWFUL start against the Lions was primarily due to not working our offense at all during the preseason (could make the case it led to our redzone issues as well, but whatever)

Total QBR since the 4th Qrt of the Lions is 65.1 (would be 6th)
Raw QBR since the 4th Qrt of the Lions is 68 (would be 7th)
Love the avatar.
 

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You left out the stat for pornstars dated. Makes Jimmy look better
 

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Thats RAW QBR (based on performance) his Total QBR (which factors quality of defense) is 56.2. Still the best, but not by much.

Lions and Seahawks games really hurt his QBR.

I still think the AWFUL start against the Lions was primarily due to not working our offense at all during the preseason (could make the case it led to our redzone issues as well, but whatever)

Total QBR since the 4th Qrt of the Lions is 65.1 (would be 6th)
Raw QBR since the 4th Qrt of the Lions is 68 (would be 7th)

Lots of reasons but I also think it took us 3 games to figure out we need to mix in the 2RB's and TE sets, and Kyler started to run more because he realized it opened up the offense.

Now we just need to get Kliff to junk the option, or find a way to conceal it at least, but overall I'm pretty impressed. It's nice to have a coach who's not afraid to just accept that doesn't work let's try this.
 

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Lots of reasons but I also think it took us 3 games to figure out we need to mix in the 2RB's and TE sets, and Kyler started to run more because he realized it opened up the offense.

Now we just need to get Kliff to junk the option, or find a way to conceal it at least, but overall I'm pretty impressed. It's nice to have a coach who's not afraid to just accept that doesn't work let's try this.
Yea the option to the shortside of the field should never happen. League is too fast.

I do like the QB draws, but just don't do that in a 2 minute drill with a WR. lol

Yea Kliff is learning and adjusting. Just think the preseason would have helped that first game a great deal.

A lot of it though is Kyler doesn't seem as rushed. His lack of comfort didn't help matters at all. Helps that they are using more OU personnel instead of the Texas Tech stuff.
 

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You were right.
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Were seeing with Goff the difference a good OL makes. Had a good OL last year and he was very good, has a crap OL this year and he has been crap. Though the absolute best QBs in the league can find a way to be effective with a crap OL.
 

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Were seeing with Goff the difference a good OL makes. Had a good OL last year and he was very good, has a crap OL this year and he has been crap. Though the absolute best QBs in the league can find a way to be effective with a crap OL.
Imo thats what makes Russell Wilson so special. No matter the Oline, wrs or even the mediocre play callers he seems to always find a way.
 

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Were seeing with Goff the difference a good OL makes. Had a good OL last year and he was very good, has a crap OL this year and he has been crap. Though the absolute best QBs in the league can find a way to be effective with a crap OL.

Maybe six weeks ago I posted that the Rams had been really lucky last year (like on 50/50 balls, and recovering fumbles, and stuff like that) (heard this on the radio) but was shouted down a little.

Point being is that maybe they aren't quite as good as last year's record would lead you to believe. Now with trouble on the Oline? I like our chances better to beat them at home vs. the SF game.
 

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Kyler: 64.3% - 1,664 - 7TD/4INT - 7.0/YPA - 87.7 Rating - 63.2 QBR - 238 yards rushing - 6.1/YPA - 2TD - 1 Fumble

Garoppolo: 69.9% - 1,163 - 7TD/5INT - 8.0/YPA - 95.2 Rating - 54.2 QBR - 10 yards rushing - 0.5/YPA - 1TD - 4 Fumbles

Goff: 62.2% - 1,272 - 7TD/7INT - 7.0/YPA - 80.8 Rating - 34.6 QBR - 13 yards rushing - 0.9/YPA - 1TD - 6 Fumbles

Murray: 4 years/35m
Garoppolo: 4 years/100m
Goff: 4 years/134m

SF 6-0
Rams 3-3
Cards 2-3-1
 
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