Lack of CBA will cause "Bloody Thursday"

[imaCafan]

NFL | One general manager says lack of CBA will cause "Bloody Thursday"
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:53:23 -0800

Updating previous reports, Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the break down in negotiations over a new collective bargaining could cause what one general manager called "Bloody Thursday." With the projected salary cap expected to fall between $95 million to $96 million, some big-name players might get released by Thursday, March 2, as teams comply with the salary cap. An AFC team executive said, "In past years, you'd see a lot of guys released who maybe still had some name value, but who were really in decline in terms of production. This year? People are going to be stunned -- not just by the quantity of players who are cut by Thursday, but by the quality, too. It's going to be ugly. There's going to be blood in the streets and, compared to past years, it's going to be from some bluebloods, guys who can still play."

 

[arthurracoon]

I assume this is good for us, as we have caproom?

 

[CARDCORE FAN]

Good Thing

I assume this is good for us, as we have caproom?

If what Len says happens and we play our Cards right we could really add a lot of talent..

 

[CardinalChris]

Apparently there some funky provisions if the CBA is not extended where next year would be meyhem. Teams over the cap would have to cut many, MANY star players to comply. In contrast team under the cap will be fine and able to toss money at FAs.

 

[stewdog1]

Apparently there some funky provisions if the CBA is not extended where next year would be meyhem. Teams over the cap would have to cut many, MANY star players to comply. In contrast team under the cap will be fine and able to toss money at FAs.

Maybe there was a method to the Bidwill's madness after all.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

right, we're not going to go after top tier FA's, but we're gonna spend on the released stars? this affects us not one iota.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

So, with all of this in mind, would it be past the realm of reasoning to suggest Bidwill might be on the side of holding up the new CBA? Especially if he knows this will actually benefit the Cards?

Just food for thought.

 

[Redheart]

right, we're not going to go after top tier FA's, but we're gonna spend on the released stars? this affects us not one iota.

It might mean that top tier FA's become "affordable" when the market value is driven down by supply; a cap-cut player in the same position as a FA, having equivalent talent.

It could happen. Come on, Steelers, cut some O-Linemen...wait, didn't we do that?

 

[TRW]

I think the odds are probably pretty high that a last minute deal will get done. Every time one of these things comes up in professional sports there is this sort of posturing and wringing of the hands.

But, even with no CBA, I believe the money generating juggernaut called the NFL will continue. The "salary cap" is just a self-policing governor for the owners to allow for continued mediocrity due to over expansion and dilution of the talent pool.

With no salary cap, maybe the GAME might be the focus and NOT economics.

Just my take on the whole mess.

 

[Redheart]

With no salary cap, maybe the GAME might be the focus and NOT economics.

Just my take on the whole mess.

I don't agree. Your logic is bass-ackwards. Without at cap, it will be ALL about economics.

The big-markets will dominate by cash. Yankee fan?

 

[vinnymac]

i wouldn't worry about the cba. a deal will get done. personally i could care less about the salary cap. the cardinals will finally have money generated from their own stadium.

 

[TRW]

i wouldn't worry about the cba. a deal will get done. personally i could care less about the salary cap. the cardinals will finally have money generated from their own stadium.

Pretty much my bottom line too Vinny.

Oh, and Red, no I'm not a Yankee fan Don't watch baseball much at all.

 

[Sandan]

Even with a full stadium, we can't compete for revenue with teams like th Skjns and Giants.

 

[john h]

NFL | One general manager says lack of CBA will cause "Bloody Thursday"
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:53:23 -0800

Updating previous reports, Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the break down in negotiations over a new collective bargaining could cause what one general manager called "Bloody Thursday." With the projected salary cap expected to fall between $95 million to $96 million, some big-name players might get released by Thursday, March 2, as teams comply with the salary cap. An AFC team executive said, "In past years, you'd see a lot of guys released who maybe still had some name value, but who were really in decline in terms of production. This year? People are going to be stunned -- not just by the quantity of players who are cut by Thursday, but by the quality, too. It's going to be ugly. There's going to be blood in the streets and, compared to past years, it's going to be from some bluebloods, guys who can still play."

Sounds like the French Revolution. Where is Robspheire? Viva la France!

 

[john h]

I assume this is good for us, as we have caproom?

Yes it does Arthur and we seem to say this every year. We have Cap room but not a lot happens. We all have short memories. You have to have to be a Cardinal fan. In the military we say power is useless unless you are willing to use it. So is CAP room.

 

[john h]

I think the odds are probably pretty high that a last minute deal will get done. Every time one of these things comes up in professional sports there is this sort of posturing and wringing of the hands.

But, even with no CBA, I believe the money generating juggernaut called the NFL will continue. The "salary cap" is just a self-policing governor for the owners to allow for continued mediocrity due to over expansion and dilution of the talent pool.

With no salary cap, maybe the GAME might be the focus and NOT economics.

Just my take on the whole mess.

I saw Gene Upshaw on TV. He said the meeting are OVER and said he was leaving town. He said they were so far apart their was absolutely nothing to talk about. I believe him.

 

[joeshmo]

I saw Gene Upshaw on TV. He said the meeting are OVER and said he was leaving town. He said they were so far apart their was absolutely nothing to talk about. I believe him.

Then you dont know the politics of negotiations and the continued scare tactics that he has used in the past.

He did this once before saying that if a deal wasnt done on Feb 25th he was going to walk away and go home becuase they were so far apart and wont talk again until after FA starts, just like this last statement. Well that lasted for about 2 minutes with Upshaw as they were again talking 1 day later.

The deal wont get done before the March 3rd deadline but it will get done before the season starts, without a doubt. The players have to much to loss as in 2007 players cant become FA unless they have 5 or more years in the league intead of the 4 years right now, which means a lot of guys wont be able to take part in the uncapped 2007 offseason, and many, many players will loss a lot of money becuase of it.

Upsahw got ripped a new one on the last deal he made, players didnt think he fought for them at all as the last CBA deal was done in a flash and the players hated it. Upshaw almost lost his job. Now Upshaw has to be seen as being a hard arse in these negotiations and get more then he got in the last one he did. Hence all of the comments and scare tactics he has been using in the media, he has to been seen as wroking his butt off for the best possible deal to the players and the rest of the NFLPA.

2007 will have a new CBS without a doubt.

 

[arthurracoon]

Yes it does Arthur and we seem to say this every year. We have Cap room but not a lot happens. We all have short memories. You have to have to be a Cardinal fan. In the military we say power is useless unless you are willing to use it. So is CAP room.

good point

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Sounds like the French Revolution. Where is Robspheire? Viva la France!

BIM: Robespierre - Vive la France

Maximilien Marie Isidore de Robespierre

 

[john h]

BIM: Robespierre - Vive la France

Maximilien Marie Isidore de Robespierre

Touche!