Lakers @ Suns Tuesday game thread 11-22-2022

[AzStevenCal]

They had words a few plays prior. Ayton walked over to stand over Reaves. And was actually chirping at Reaves. Just another stupid, boneheaded play by Ayton.

Are you sure he was chirping at Reaves, not responding to Davis? I'm not in love with the replays I could view but I didn't think it was clear either way. I do know that Davis moves towards DA and DA then moves towards Reaves but I guess it's possible that Anthony is enraged at Ayton "chirping" at Reaves. Tough to tell, from what I've seen.

 

[Chaplin]

Pat Bev is a first class punk… But that was so stupid DA standing over Reaves… DA asked for it IMO… with Pat Bev out on the court, it was an automatic response to Ayton’s stupid flex over Reaves.

Asked for it? Give me a break. There is no place in the nba for that. None.

He didn’t ask for jack. If he taunted fine, but if you think he deserved that cheap shot then stick to watching football or hockey instead.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Not your fathers Lakers for sure

 

[82CardsGrad]

Asked for it? Give me a break. There is no place in the nba for that. None.

He didn’t ask for jack. If he taunted fine, but if you think he deserved that cheap shot then stick to watching football or hockey instead.

You stand over a guy who just got knocked down… yea, sh*t is gonna happen.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Are you sure he was chirping at Reaves, not responding to Davis? I'm not in love with the replays I could view but I didn't think it was clear either way. I do know that Davis moves towards DA and DA then moves towards Reaves but I guess it's possible that Anthony is enraged at Ayton "chirping" at Reaves. Tough to tell, from what I've seen.

Wasn’t at the game. But I’ve seen enough replays to convince me of my interpretation.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Here’s another replay. IMO, Ayton had a choice as to where he would walk with the ball in hand. He chose to walk over to Reaves on the ground.

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[Brian in Mesa]

Anthony Davis finally in playing shape only to get hurt in two weeks. Not going to get 30 points on the Suns.

Nope, he got 37 and set an NBA record with his performance. Good call.

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[Phrazbit]

Nope, he got 37 and set an NBA record with his performance. Good call.

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And he lost!

 

[AzStevenCal]

Here’s another replay. IMO, Ayton had a choice as to where he would walk with the ball in hand. He chose to walk over to Reaves on the ground.

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I don't think that one's clear at all. Watch it again, but focus on Anthony Davis instead of DA. It looks to me like AD is already moving towards DA which is why DA turns away and steps towards Reaves. And AD is clearly yapping at DA all the while. I can't tell who DA is talking to and like I said, it's possible that Anthony is angry and moving that way because of something DA is saying to the fallen player but to me it's clear that he moves towards DA before DA moves towards Reaves.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

And he lost!

Michael Jordan once scored 63 in a loss. It happens. Individual record, not a team record.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Michael Jordan once scored 63 in a loss. It happens. Individual record, not a team record.

I think it's more of a reference to when Booker had great games in a loss. Like his 50+ point games or his 70 point game. A lot of people discredited it because it was in a loss.

 

[Phrazbit]

Michael Jordan once scored 63 in a loss. It happens. Individual record, not a team record.

But Jordan wasn't made of glass and the Bulls didn't suck ass.

I think it's more of a reference to when Booker had great games in a loss. Like his 50+ point games or his 70 point game. A lot of people discredited it because it was in a loss.

Nah, as referenced above, it is a critique specific to these Lakers.

The Lakers suck and Anthony Davis is has the toughness of airline toilet paper.

Davis' efforts will, at best, earn him something like a sports hernia and the Pelicans a pick just outside of the top 3.

Their best chance of success is for Pat Bev to blow out one opposing tendon per game played, he tries as best as he can but he just isn't there right now.

 

[Dback Jon]

It's all fair game as far as I am concerned if the NBA let's this stuff go. What happens if someone gets seriously hurt?

You mean like CP3 getting injured and not playing to his abilities in the finals?

 

[Dback Jon]

Pat Bev is a first class punk… But that was so stupid DA standing over Reaves… DA asked for it IMO… with Pat Bev out on the court, it was an automatic response to Ayton’s stupid flex over Reaves.

Dude, you can’t in any way justify won’t Pat Bev did.

Full stop. What Ayton did or did not do is irrelevant.

 

[Dback Jon]

You stand over a guy who just got knocked down… yea, sh*t is gonna happen.

Oh that’s BS. It’s a pretty pathetic line. No, he did not deserve to be blindsided like that - he could’ve been injured severely. Sorry dude but you’re way wrong in anyway justifying what was done. Take this fake macho. Crap and get that out.

 

[outcent13]

If it was about his teammate he wouldn’t have shoved DA into the guy. He could have landed on Reaves and injured both guys potentially. Pat Bev is a coward and saw an opportunity to “justify” a cheap shot. If he truly had his team in mind he would have gotten in the middle and barked at DA or pulled him down instead of shoving him.

All that being said, maybe three minutes prior he was talking trash to and trying to stand over Book at the top of the key after he was fouled.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Oh that’s BS. It’s a pretty pathetic line. No, he did not deserve to be blindsided like that - he could’ve been injured severely. Sorry dude but you’re way wrong in anyway justifying what was done. Take this fake macho. Crap and get that out.

I’m not “justifying” what Bev did. It’s Bev being Bev, a douche being a douche.
But Ayton’s stupid actions (and a case can be made that Book also briefly stood over Reaves as well prior to Ayton following Book), causes the reaction from Bev. A totally over the top and dangerous reaction for sure. But a reaction is just that, a reaction. And in this case, the reaction was to a very stupid and amateurish flex move by Ayton.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I don't think that one's clear at all. Watch it again, but focus on Anthony Davis instead of DA. It looks to me like AD is already moving towards DA which is why DA turns away and steps towards Reaves. And AD is clearly yapping at DA all the while. I can't tell who DA is talking to and like I said, it's possible that Anthony is angry and moving that way because of something DA is saying to the fallen player but to me it's clear that he moves towards DA before DA moves towards Reaves.

And I see a player (AD), walking over to his teammate on the ground…

 

[Dback Jon]

I’m not “justifying” what Bev did. It’s Bev being Bev, a douche being a douche.
But Ayton’s stupid actions (and a case can be made that Book also briefly stood over Reaves as well prior to Ayton following Book), causes the reaction from Bev. A totally over the top and dangerous reaction for sure. But a reaction is just that, a reaction. And in this case, the reaction was to a very stupid and amateurish flex move by Ayton.

And you still justifying it no matter how you slice it. You’re still blaming DeAndre for Pat Beverly’s actions That type of stare down, happens multiple time in NBA games A.D. did it earlier

 

[82CardsGrad]

And you still justifying it no matter how you slice it. You’re still blaming DeAndre for Pat Beverly’s actions That type of stare down, happens multiple time in NBA games A.D. did it earlier

AD did it to a player that was knocked down? I must have missed that.
Again, I’m not excusing or justifying Bev’s reaction. I’m focused on DA and his needless, immature stare down - that caused Bev’s reaction.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You mean like CP3 getting injured and not playing to his abilities in the finals?

CP3 is another Mr. Glass. Guy has pulled up lame in every city he’s ever played in.

 

[Mainstreet]

You mean like CP3 getting injured and not playing to his abilities in the finals?

I'm saying, if the referees aren't going to call the game fairly, the players may have to respond in like kind.

Beverley gets away with his own set of rules.

 

[Proximo]

I am stunned at how good Lee has been.

He's like the best spot up shooter in the league. It doesn't seem like it can possibly continue all year.

 

[Mainstreet]

They had words a few plays prior. Ayton walked over to stand over Reaves. And was actually chirping at Reaves. Just another stupid, boneheaded play by Ayton.

I think so too. IMO DA was trying to avoid mixing it up with Davis who had just turned towards him which led to Ayton moving even closer to Reaves. I watched it several times and I can't tell for sure if I'm right but that's my guess. Hopefully tomorrow they'll make available better shots of what transpired. Beverley should be suspended although he probably won't be especially if it turns out that the Lakers Kissup Reggie Miller was right.

Chatter and trash talk does not excuse what Beverley did to Ayton.

The NBA and referees need to quit offering excuses for flagrant fouls meant to injure.

There should be no room in the NBA for this type of play. Period.

 

[Proximo]

I'm saying, if the referees aren't going to call the game fairly, the players may have to respond in like kind.

Beverley gets away with his own set of rules.

You know it was funny, I forgot he was even on the Lakers till I noticed him like 2 minutes before his cheap shot.

I bet he was thinking - oh yeah this is a national TV game and I've been too quiet, I need to make my presence known.