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I’m curious as to your reasoning why? Even taking last year’s title run away, one where Vogel had to deal with A LOT of knuckleheads and got big egos to play as one, Vogel has more Playoff experience and success than Monty.
Playoff experience doesn’t matter to me—that’s a reflection of team construction not coaching. Or at least coaching isn’t a big enough factor.

I think you are overrating Vogel’s handling of the “knuckleheads”. Outside of Spoelstra, pretty much every coach Lebron has had is a figurehead and not really a coach.
 

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I don’t think he’s a placeholder coach, but I definitely think we hold a clear advantage over him.

I think Monty was the perfect coach for our situation but I think Vogel is the better tactician. But with Chris Paul in Phoenix and Lebron James in LA, I'm not sure either coach is actually running the game.
 

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If the Lakers get upset tonight I would give the Grizz a very slight chance at pulling off the upset Friday. They are clearly no where near as talented as the Lakers, but their starters can matchup defensively somewhat with the Lakers starters.
 

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Playoff experience doesn’t matter to me—that’s a reflection of team construction not coaching. Or at least coaching isn’t a big enough factor.

I think you are overrating Vogel’s handling of the “knuckleheads”. Outside of Spoelstra, pretty much every coach Lebron has had is a figurehead and not really a coach.

okay. Experience alone I’d agree with, but if success (which Vogel has had in Indiana also) in the playoffs isn’t indicative of good coaching, how do you gauge it? I mean, do you look at overachieving? I’d say those Pacers teams, in small markets and only having one star giving the Heat the business and advancing to the ECF in multiple years is signs of good coaching and over achieving.

I mean, a couple days ago you said that the Lakers without LeBRon and Davis have “one of the worst rosters in the league.” Yet, they went something like 12 and 15 without both guys. I’d say if you can stay within 3 games of .500, especially in the West, with what you call a terrible roster, that’s got to be anorher sign of good coaching, no?

Personally, I look at the entire picture with Vogel and see a guy who’s gotten teams to overachieve, had solid playoff success and managed a bunch of crazy guys last year, under trying circumstances to blend with Bron and Ad all as signs he’s a solid to good coach.

Now, maybe you can say he stunk in Orlando. And Sure he stunk in Orlando, but who hasn’t? Also, it’s not like Monty doesn’t have warts on his resume with a pretty unimpressive Pelicans tenure that only resulted in one playoff appearance/series win.

What is it you think Monty has over Vogel? Xs and Os? In game adjustments?
 
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If the Lakers get upset tonight I would give the Grizz a very slight chance at pulling off the upset Friday. They are clearly no where near as talented as the Lakers, but their starters can matchup defensively somewhat with the Lakers starters.

I don’t think so Grizz did not look too good
 

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Leaving Caldwell pope in the corner is a huge mistake. You should literally let them have any other shot.
 

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I'm rooting for the Lakers. I don't want to face Steph. I know LA's size is a lot, but I don't think they're stars are healthy.

Prediction? I think GS wins by 18.

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I think Monty was the perfect coach for our situation but I think Vogel is the better tactician. But with Chris Paul in Phoenix and Lebron James in LA, I'm not sure either coach is actually running the game.

same.
 

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If the Lakers get upset tonight I would give the Grizz a very slight chance at pulling off the upset Friday. They are clearly no where near as talented as the Lakers, but their starters can matchup defensively somewhat with the Lakers starters.

lol.
 

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Btw raja bell is a a hole for calling suns fake he ddidn't win ring eaither lol no longer fan of bell was article on yahoo
 

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I'm rooting for the Lakers. I don't want to face Steph. I know LA's size is a lot, but I don't think they're stars are healthy.

Prediction? I think GS wins by 18.

I'd take it. Warriors would not be easy to beat but the Suns match up with them better.
 

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I'd take it. Warriors would not be easy to beat but the Suns match up with them better.
Both teams are scary, the only team I'm confident against would be Dallas.

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Curry's shooting being off doesn't help.
 

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woukdnt almost any team have a 1% chance to beat anyone?
My only real point is that I would give them a better chance than SA. Very much doubt either team would pull it off because it will be an elimination game and that would make it even less likely of happening.
 

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Oh my god... that was a ridiculous finish by Steph
 
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