Later rounds

[WildBB]

Say we take WR, DT and CB first three rounds. Who do you like in the 4th, at the 100th pick or after, speculating on the below players possibly being available.


1. (97) New York Giants - DeMarco McNeil, DT Auburn
2. (98) San Diego Chargers - Darrius Watts, WR Marshall
3. (99) Oakland Raiders - Courtney Watson, ILB Notre Dame
4. (100) Arizona Cardinals - Greg Brooks, CB Southern Mississippi
5. (101) Atlanta Falcons - Matthias Askew, DT Michigan State
6. (102) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jason Peters, TE/OT Arkansas
7. (103) Houston Texans - Brian Rimpf, OT East Carolina
8. (104) Chicago Bears (from Washington) - Ben Hartsock, TE Ohio State
9. (105) Detroit Lions - Ben Utecht, TE Minnesota
10. (106) Cleveland Browns - Cody Pickett, QB Washington
11. (107) Pittsburgh Steelers - Adrian Jones, OT Kansas
12. (108) New York Jets - Brandon Everage, S Oklahoma
13. (109) Buffalo Bills - Chris Cooley, TE Utah State
14. (110) Chicago Bears - Kendyll Pope, OLB Florida State
15. (111) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Tommy Kelley, DT Mississippi State
16. (112) San Francisco 49ers - Michael Turner, RB Northern Illinois
17. (113) New England Patriots (from New Orleans) - Jacob Bell, G Miami (Ohio)
18. (114) Cincinnati Bengals - Dave Ball, DE UCLA
19. (115) Minnesota Vikings - Madieu Williams, S Maryland
20. (116) Seattle Seahawks - Shaun Phillips, DE Purdue
21. (117) Denver Broncos - Amon Gordon, DT Stanford
22. (118) Green Bay Packers - Jordan Carstens, DT Iowa State
23. (119) Miami Dolphins - Bo Schobel, DE TCU
24. (120) Baltimore Ravens - Kentrel Curry, S Georgia
25. (121) Dallas Cowboys - Carlos Joseph, OT Miami (Fla)
26. (122) Houston Texans (from Indianapolis) - Jerricho Cotchery, WR North Carolina State
27. (123) St. Louis Rams - Bobby McCray, DE Florida
28. (124) Tennessee Titans - P.K. Sam, WR Florida State
29. (125) Atlanta Falcons (from Philadelphia) - Andrew Shull, DE Kansas State
30. (126) Kansas City Chiefs - Tim Anderson, DT Ohio State
31. (127) Carolina Panthers - Alex Lewis, OLB Wisconsin
32. (128) New England Patriots - Clarence Moore, WR Northern Arizona
33. (129) Philadelphia Eagles - Jeb Terry, G North Carolina
34. (130) St. Louis Rams - J.R. Reed, S South Florida
35. (131) Philadelphia Eagles - Richard Seigler, ILB Oregon State
36. (132) New York Jets - Shannon Snell, G Florida

And in the 5th? Considering the possibilities below.

(133) San Diego Chargers - Bryan Hickman, ILB Kansas State
2. (134) Oakland Raiders - Nick Leckey, C Kansas State
3. (135) Arizona Cardinals - James Newson, WR Oregon State
4. (136) New York Giants - Cedric Cobbs, RB Arkansas
5. (137) Jacksonville Jaguars - Darrell Campbell, DT Notre Dame
6. (138) Houston Texans - Lewis Moore, OLB Pittsburgh
7. (139) Washington Redskins - Ronnie Ghent, TE Louisville
8. (140) Detroit Lions - Landon Johnson, OLB Purdue
9. (141) Cleveland Browns - B.J. Johnson, WR Texas
10. (142) Atlanta Falcons - Josh Harris, QB Bowling Green
11. (143) New York Jets - Sean Bubin, OT Illinois
12. (144) Buffalo Bills - Lawrence Richardson, CB Arkansas
13. (145) Pittsburgh Steelers - Mewelde Moore, RB Tulane
14. (146) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Glenn Earl, S Notre Dame
15. (147) San Francisco 49ers - Kirk Chambers, OT Stanford
16. (148) Chicago Bears - Marquis Cooper, OLB Washington
17. (149) Cincinnati Bengals - Jonathan Harrell, ILB Northern Iowa
18. (150) New Orleans Saints - Rod Davis, ILB Southern Mississippi
19. (151) Minnesota Vikings - Nate Kaeding, K Iowa
20. (152) Denver Broncos - John Navarre, QB Michigan
21. (153) Green Bay Packers - Matt Mauck, QB LSU
22. (154) San Diego Chargers (from Miami) - Anthony Herrera, G Tennessee
23. (155) Baltimore Ravens - Rich Gardner, CB Penn State
24. (156) Dallas Cowboys - Grant Wiley, ILB West Virginia
25. (157) Seattle Seahawks - Shane Olivea, OT/OG Ohio State
26. (158) St. Louis Rams - Joe Echemandu, RB California
27. (159) Tennessee Titans - Tony Pape, OT Michigan
28. (160) Baltimore Ravens (from Philadelphia) - Cody Spencer, ILB Northern Texas
29. (161) Indianapolis Colts - Allen Reuber, G Texas A&M

30. (162) Kansas City Chiefs - Adrian Clarke, G Ohio State
31. (163) Carolina Panthers - Rashad Washington, S Kansas State
32. (164) New England Patriots - Mike Karney, FB Arizona State
33. (165) Tennessee Titans - Sean Ryan, TE Boston College

Next pick... I like K. Pope or R, Seigler, and S. Olivea. Do you think they would be there?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Say we take WR, DT and CB first three rounds. Who do you like in the 4th, at the 100th pick or after, speculating on the below players possibly being available.


Next pick... I like K. Pope or R, Seigler, and S. Olivea. Do you think they would be there?

14. (110) Chicago Bears - Kendyll Pope, OLB Florida State
35. (131) Philadelphia Eagles - Richard Seigler, ILB Oregon State
25. (157) Seattle Seahawks - Shane Olivea, OT/OG Ohio State

You do realize that, using this mock, none of the guys you mentioned would be available?

 

[WildBB]

14. (110) Chicago Bears - Kendyll Pope, OLB Florida State
35. (131) Philadelphia Eagles - Richard Seigler, ILB Oregon State
25. (157) Seattle Seahawks - Shane Olivea, OT/OG Ohio State

You do realize that, using this mock, none of the guys you mentioned would be available?

None of them at 100?

 

[Krangodnzr]

None of them at 100?

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Maybe Seigler, but I'd rather draft a DB than draft an iffy LB prospect.

 

[WildBB]

Say we take WR, DT and CB first three rounds. Who do you like in the 4th, at the 100th pick

 

[WildBB]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Maybe Seigler, but I'd rather draft a DB than draft an iffy LB prospect.

Even if they just took a CB in the 3rd? Who would you take? Who do you think will be there?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Even if they just took a CB in the 3rd? Who would you take? Who do you think will be there?

I would like to see two DBs drafted; one on the first day, one on the second.

Player evaluation:
Greg Brooks
CB, Southern Mississippi
War Room analysis
Strengths: Is an interesting mid-round prospect because of speed, size potential and playmaking skills. Has good experience, and continues to improve route-recognition skills. Is quick, and has the smooth hips to turn and run with fast receivers. Can make sudden cuts to mirror quick slot receivers. Has the speed to recover from mistakes. Shows adequate ball skills, and jumps underneath routes well. Shows good awareness, and reads quarterbacks' eyes well in zone coverage.

Weaknesses: Must get stronger or be pushed around by NFL receivers. Does a below-average job of jamming receivers. Gets in trouble when big receivers get into his body. Gets pushed around often in run support, and struggles to shed blocks. Is a drag-down tackler. Typically goes out of his way to avoid contact.

Bottom line: Brooks, who missed two games early in '03 because of an ankle sprain, lacks size and probably won't be more than a sub-package player against slot receivers. Brooks is worth selecting early on Day 2 and could go late on Day 1 because of his speed and playmaking skills.

GREG BROOKS MEASURABLES
Height: 5-10 Weight: 173
40-yard dash: 4.45 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 4.16 60-yard shuttle: 11.17
Broad jump: 9-10 225 lb. bench: 9
3-cone drill: 6.91 Vertical jump: 33

Actually, looking at who is available, he looks to be one of the better players. I wouldn't mind this pick.

 

[WildBB]

I would like to see two DBs drafted; one on the first day, one on the second.

Player evaluation:
Greg Brooks
CB, Southern Mississippi
War Room analysis
Strengths: Is an interesting mid-round prospect because of speed, size potential and playmaking skills. Bottom line: Brooks, who missed two games early in '03 because of an ankle sprain, lacks size and probably won't be more than a sub-package player against slot receivers. Brooks is worth selecting early on Day 2 and could go late on Day 1 because of his speed and playmaking skills.

GREG BROOKS MEASURABLES
Height: 5-10 Weight: 173
40-yard dash: 4.45 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 4.16 60-yard shuttle: 11.17
Broad jump: 9-10 225 lb. bench: 9
3-cone drill: 6.91 Vertical jump: 33

Actually, looking at who is available, he looks to be one of the better players. I wouldn't mind this pick.

Interesting prospect. Who was the Carolina rookie CB who made an impact this year. He might be kinda like him.

 

[vikesfan]

Those are all top tier mid rounds.
CB worth a shot Spencer they said he lacked speed. He ran well.

 

[Mrospi]

Give me Vontez Duff CB in the 4th round or after....

 

[Pariah]

I think Seigler will be gone in the third--hopefully to AZ.

 

[Mrospi]

Niko Koutouvides Purdue 6-2 244 Senior

This guy would be a good 5th or 6th rounder if he is there.....as i recall the ND/Purdue games.. this guy was all over the field making plays

 

[stretchthefield]

4th RB - Michael Turner
5th LB - Rod Davis

 

[Savage58]

4th RB - Michael Turner
5th LB - Rod Davis

That's what my value chart is pointing towards, but it leaves us without drafting an OL in the first 5 rounds.

I think Greg Brooks goes in the 3rd round btw, he's moving up quickly.

 

[kerouac9]

That's what my value chart is pointing towards, but it leaves us without drafting an OL in the first 5 rounds.

I think Greg Brooks goes in the 3rd round btw, he's moving up quickly.

Good. We don't need to draft any more OL this year. Pick up a project G or C late. There's no need to waste a mid-level pick on a player that probably won't make the roster, much less have a chance to play.

 

[BACH]

Good. We don't need to draft any more OL this year. Pick up a project G or C late. There's no need to waste a mid-level pick on a player that probably won't make the roster, much less have a chance to play.

Totally disagree!!! You can find really, really good guards and centers in the lower rounds. Kendall is getting up there, so why not use a 4th rounder on a player that can develop into a quality starter in a couple of years.

 

[kerouac9]

Totally disagree!!! You can find really, really good guards and centers in the lower rounds. Kendall is getting up there, so why not use a 4th rounder on a player that can develop into a quality starter in a couple of years.

Or, you could follow your own advice and use a lower-round pick (like a 6th or 7th round pick) on an offensive line prospect, and use the first five picks on players that can contribute this season.

You can use that 4th round pick to get another CB prospect, a LB for depth/special teams, a running back that might even end up starting, even a defensive end or tackle that can shore up the run. Almost any position that'll help you this season instead of a player that will be sitting on the bench or practice squad for the next two years.

 

[Mrospi]

Good players can be found in any round......case in point Domanick Davis was a 4th round pick last year at RB for Houston......So none of the OL is any good??? It's less likely but good players could be found

 

[Snakester]

Say we take WR, DT and CB first three rounds. Who do you like in the 4th, at the 100th pick or after, speculating on the below players possibly being available.


1. (97) New York Giants - DeMarco McNeil, DT Auburn
2. (98) San Diego Chargers - Darrius Watts, WR Marshall
3. (99) Oakland Raiders - Courtney Watson, ILB Notre Dame
4. (100) Arizona Cardinals - Greg Brooks, CB Southern Mississippi
5. (101) Atlanta Falcons - Matthias Askew, DT Michigan State
6. (102) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jason Peters, TE/OT Arkansas
7. (103) Houston Texans - Brian Rimpf, OT East Carolina
8. (104) Chicago Bears (from Washington) - Ben Hartsock, TE Ohio State
9. (105) Detroit Lions - Ben Utecht, TE Minnesota
10. (106) Cleveland Browns - Cody Pickett, QB Washington
11. (107) Pittsburgh Steelers - Adrian Jones, OT Kansas
12. (108) New York Jets - Brandon Everage, S Oklahoma
13. (109) Buffalo Bills - Chris Cooley, TE Utah State
14. (110) Chicago Bears - Kendyll Pope, OLB Florida State
15. (111) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Tommy Kelley, DT Mississippi State
16. (112) San Francisco 49ers - Michael Turner, RB Northern Illinois
17. (113) New England Patriots (from New Orleans) - Jacob Bell, G Miami (Ohio)
18. (114) Cincinnati Bengals - Dave Ball, DE UCLA
19. (115) Minnesota Vikings - Madieu Williams, S Maryland
20. (116) Seattle Seahawks - Shaun Phillips, DE Purdue
21. (117) Denver Broncos - Amon Gordon, DT Stanford
22. (118) Green Bay Packers - Jordan Carstens, DT Iowa State
23. (119) Miami Dolphins - Bo Schobel, DE TCU
24. (120) Baltimore Ravens - Kentrel Curry, S Georgia
25. (121) Dallas Cowboys - Carlos Joseph, OT Miami (Fla)
26. (122) Houston Texans (from Indianapolis) - Jerricho Cotchery, WR North Carolina State
27. (123) St. Louis Rams - Bobby McCray, DE Florida
28. (124) Tennessee Titans - P.K. Sam, WR Florida State
29. (125) Atlanta Falcons (from Philadelphia) - Andrew Shull, DE Kansas State
30. (126) Kansas City Chiefs - Tim Anderson, DT Ohio State
31. (127) Carolina Panthers - Alex Lewis, OLB Wisconsin
32. (128) New England Patriots - Clarence Moore, WR Northern Arizona
33. (129) Philadelphia Eagles - Jeb Terry, G North Carolina
34. (130) St. Louis Rams - J.R. Reed, S South Florida
35. (131) Philadelphia Eagles - Richard Seigler, ILB Oregon State
36. (132) New York Jets - Shannon Snell, G Florida

And in the 5th? Considering the possibilities below.

(133) San Diego Chargers - Bryan Hickman, ILB Kansas State
2. (134) Oakland Raiders - Nick Leckey, C Kansas State
3. (135) Arizona Cardinals - James Newson, WR Oregon State
4. (136) New York Giants - Cedric Cobbs, RB Arkansas
5. (137) Jacksonville Jaguars - Darrell Campbell, DT Notre Dame
6. (138) Houston Texans - Lewis Moore, OLB Pittsburgh
7. (139) Washington Redskins - Ronnie Ghent, TE Louisville
8. (140) Detroit Lions - Landon Johnson, OLB Purdue
9. (141) Cleveland Browns - B.J. Johnson, WR Texas
10. (142) Atlanta Falcons - Josh Harris, QB Bowling Green
11. (143) New York Jets - Sean Bubin, OT Illinois
12. (144) Buffalo Bills - Lawrence Richardson, CB Arkansas
13. (145) Pittsburgh Steelers - Mewelde Moore, RB Tulane
14. (146) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Glenn Earl, S Notre Dame
15. (147) San Francisco 49ers - Kirk Chambers, OT Stanford
16. (148) Chicago Bears - Marquis Cooper, OLB Washington
17. (149) Cincinnati Bengals - Jonathan Harrell, ILB Northern Iowa
18. (150) New Orleans Saints - Rod Davis, ILB Southern Mississippi
19. (151) Minnesota Vikings - Nate Kaeding, K Iowa
20. (152) Denver Broncos - John Navarre, QB Michigan
21. (153) Green Bay Packers - Matt Mauck, QB LSU
22. (154) San Diego Chargers (from Miami) - Anthony Herrera, G Tennessee
23. (155) Baltimore Ravens - Rich Gardner, CB Penn State
24. (156) Dallas Cowboys - Grant Wiley, ILB West Virginia
25. (157) Seattle Seahawks - Shane Olivea, OT/OG Ohio State
26. (158) St. Louis Rams - Joe Echemandu, RB California
27. (159) Tennessee Titans - Tony Pape, OT Michigan
28. (160) Baltimore Ravens (from Philadelphia) - Cody Spencer, ILB Northern Texas
29. (161) Indianapolis Colts - Allen Reuber, G Texas A&M

30. (162) Kansas City Chiefs - Adrian Clarke, G Ohio State
31. (163) Carolina Panthers - Rashad Washington, S Kansas State
32. (164) New England Patriots - Mike Karney, FB Arizona State
33. (165) Tennessee Titans - Sean Ryan, TE Boston College

Next pick... I like K. Pope or R, Seigler, and S. Olivea. Do you think they would be there?

The fourth round with the players you have listed I like, Bobby McCray, Shaun Phillips, Carlos Joseph,Tommy Kelley and Greg Brooks.
In the fifth round I like, Shane Olivea, BJ Johnson, Rod Davis, Tony Pape and Adrian Clarke.