Leftwich and Boston, great games should have been Cards

[DevonCardsFan]

David Boston 14 181 2 TD's

Byron Leftwich 19/28 336 2TD's 0 Ints


You can call Boston a Headcase but Boston performed better than any Card WR today and I would rather have his crazy ass on the team instead of unused cap space in Bidwills pocket.

And as for Leftwich, I would rather have him on the team then Johnson and Pace, Leftwich has the ability to add a bigger impact then the two.


And while I'm dreaming look at Stephen Davis's numbers today 30 for 159 and 1 TD, wouldn't he of been a better addition then Emmitt Smith

Imagine it was very easy to have had an offense that looked like this

QB-LeftWich
RB-Davis/Shipp
WR's-Boston/Boldin(if they took him in the 2nd still, this also could have been Johnson at 2 as well)
TE-Jones

This seems like alot more powerful of a group then the one we watched today.

 

[green machine]

Saying Boston is pure crap. He has played two games, and by all accounts we are all glad he's not a Cardinal. Sure, every day there will be people who have better days. But in weeks 1-4 who would you have rather had? Boston or our guys? Jeez Devon, you're really reaching here...

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Originally posted by green machine
Saying Boston is pure crap. He has played two games, and by all accounts we are all glad he's not a Cardinal. Sure, every day there will be people who have better days. But in weeks 1-4 who would you have rather had? Boston or our guys? Jeez Devon, you're really reaching here...

What would you rather have the last WR on the Cards depth chart and $$$$ in Bidwills pocket or David Boston. Boston will probably become the same virus Simion Rice was, I dont care if your a complate A-hole headcase I would much rather have Boston on this team then every WR,other then Boldin. We cant get rid of players because there head cases I would rather suck with Boston, then suck without him

Much like I would have rather sucked with Simion Rice, then without him.

 

[green machine]

Boston has played a grand total of what, two games? How many more do you think he will play? For the contract San Diego gave him, would you sign him?

adam

 

[HoodieBets]

Originally posted by green machine
Boston has played a grand total of what, two games? How many more do you think he will play? For the contract San Diego gave him, would you sign him?

adam

Boston or McAddley, Boston or Kasper??????? Boston or zeke??????

I personally would take Boston, but thats just me. Boston has the potential to go to the pro bowl i dont think the others do.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Enough with threads about guys that ARE NOT CARDINALS. Once they leave - they're gone. Who cares what they do elsewhere...it doesn't mean they would have done the same here on that same day. It's an idiotic direction to go in... Pick up these guys in your fantasy league, but leave em out of Cards talk.

 

[kerouac9]

For what it's worth, today was the first game that I've ever seen Byron Leftwich play in, and the guy in a bona fide STUD. I forgot Terrell Suggs's name when I was watching the J-Ville game. The cat is enormous, had a big-time arm, a big-time head, and big-time heart. We should have taken him.

I agree with Section 11. I take back everything I ever said about us not taking a QB. I'm a Leftwich believer.

 

[green machine]

Originally posted by kerouac9
For what it's worth, today was the first game that I've ever seen Byron Leftwich play in, and the guy in a bona fide STUD. I forgot Terrell Suggs's name when I was watching the J-Ville game. The cat is enormous, had a big-time arm, a big-time head, and big-time heart. We should have taken him.

I agree with Section 11. I take back everything I ever said about us not taking a QB. I'm a Leftwich believer.

I wanted Leftwich ever since he was carried down the field by his teammates in one of the bowl games I think last year. A stud, a leader. Everything we needed in a QB, and we passed on him. I was disappointed that we didn't take him. Hopefully we won't regret it forever.

adam

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by kerouac9
For what it's worth, today was the first game that I've ever seen Byron Leftwich play in, and the guy in a bona fide STUD. I forgot Terrell Suggs's name when I was watching the J-Ville game. The cat is enormous, had a big-time arm, a big-time head, and big-time heart. We should have taken him.

I agree with Section 11. I take back everything I ever said about us not taking a QB. I'm a Leftwich believer.

A little late now!

Oh well, he is a great player, and barring injury should be a great NFL QB! I wanted him too.......

 

[Stout]

And I was screaming...SCREAMING at the TV to draft Leftwich when he was there. Everyone here knows it. I was one of a few (Section 11 was another, I think) that wanted Lefty. Oh well. I guess, maybe, a 'franchise QB' will come along again for us.

 

[40yearfan]

Originally posted by Stout
And I was screaming...SCREAMING at the TV to draft Leftwich when he was there. Everyone here knows it. I was one of a few (Section 11 was another, I think) that wanted Lefty. Oh well. I guess, maybe, a 'franchise QB' will come along again for us.

Chicago would probably be willing to trade Kordell Stewart.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I watched J'ville yesterday just to see how big a blunder the Cards made on draft day.I said it then and i'll say it now.Not drafting him is going to be their biggest mistake in the draft they've ever made.And, i think we all agree,there have been a few mistakes.

 

[Garthshort]

Leftwich

For all those posters who were touting Leftwich to be the Cards 1st Rd pick in the Draft you were ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Once again we (The Cards) missed the boat And now it's obvious that Blake isn't the answer, especially long term, we MUST use the rest of the year to learn whether McCown is the answer. And since we're sure to have a high pick we'll have to go QB if McCown can't do the job but it would have been nice to have had Leftwich and Boldin.

 

[BW52]

Think we gotta go DEFENSE with 1st round pick.DT or DE or CB.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by 40yearfan
Chicago would probably be willing to trade Kordell Stewart.

I was at the point of tears when I heard we had signed him. Thank God it wasn't true.

 

[Brand]

I dislike Mondays afater a loss no matter if it was by one point, seventeen or an otherwise blowout. I think fans always have the option of looking back at "what might have been." But "the finger has writ upon the wall" and moved on, so to speak. Picking Leftwich was the only, smart, wise thing to have done back then, and I think that the Cards' "braintrust" chickened out when they passed on him. Water under the bridge, yeah, but that once in a francises' lifetime chance was lost......

It is going to sound trite but I have been pulling for the Cards to win. Why? I guess I have heard enough jokes and crap about the Cards. I have met people from Arizona, and I like them a lot; they are good and quality people (even if their politics sometimes seems a bit skewed to me). Also, I admit I lived through those days when Denver was not, shall we say, a respected football team. So, to move on.

Without sugar coating it, the Cards are going to have a low pick again. (I do not suggest that this season should just be tossed because I think there will be some good football yet to be played). But if you are going to think ahead a bit, I suggest that the choices that should be in the top ten or so, should be those players who bring confidence and leadership to the team. Those are more likely the "skill" players. QB is large, and I suggest that all the hot shot young QBs should be lined up, evaluated and targeted. (Yes, I think Denver needs to do the same and I am not going to go there any further.) It is easier to get the "grunt players" via FA than the truly impactful skill players. Don't misunderstand me. I am not knocking Blake. It is just that he is not likely the long term answer as someone else has said.

Well, let's see the Cards go for a win next week!

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Brand

Without sugar coating it, the Cards are going to have a low pick again. (I do not suggest that this season should just be tossed because I think there will be some good football yet to be played). But if you are going to think ahead a bit, I suggest that the choices that should be in the top ten or so, should be those players who bring confidence and leadership to the team. Those are more likely the "skill" players. QB is large, and I suggest that all the hot shot young QBs should be lined up, evaluated and targeted. (Yes, I think Denver needs to do the same and I am not going to go there any further.) It is easier to get the "grunt players" via FA than the truly impactful skill players. Don't misunderstand me. I am not knocking Blake. It is just that he is not likely the long term answer as someone else has said.

Well, let's see the Cards go for a win next week!

Wow I actually agree with you.

A lot of us wanted Leftwich last year the problem was it was obvious we weren't going to pick him. We had 2 rookies at QB last season, and we replaced Jake with Blake so it was blatantly obvious we weren't going to draft another rookie. Blake was signed as the 2-3 year "bridge" to McCown, we all knew that. THe problem is none of us are clear McCown is the eventual starter, and Blake isn't playing well enough to justify passing on Leftwich. Blake is not a bad QB, he's not playing well right now but we've seen worse in situations like this, and with the youth at WR and the OL playing so poorly right now it may continue for much of the season unfortunately.

If you checked the archives on this board before the draft you'll see a lot of posts that said this, we SHOULD draft Leftwich but we won't. There were some guys here who just said over and over if we pass on Lefty we will regret it for 10 years, I think they're right. There were several guys here who railed over and over that Lefty was overrated, would cost too much etc. Frankly I don't think the Cards really considered him I think they feel or felt, that Josh was going to be their guy in a couple of years and they could win with Blake if they got him some WR's. The big disappointment is we have no run game, our best RB is not playing, and that's putting all the pressure on Blake and the young WR's and we're seeing the results and they're not pretty.

I don't think there is a Leftwich in this coming draft, I'm not a Eli Manning fan at all. I think the Cards need to just pick the best player, be it Wilfork, Gamble, whoever they have to take the best player.

But the real key here is some major coaching changes need to take place, now or later they have to make changes they can't just keep waiting for Mac to figure out the NFL. Bill Callahan was in the SuperBowl last year, now he's very close to getting fired by the Raiders and the primary reason being cited is players like Jerry Rice saying the offense bogged down because "the Bears knew our plays, I don't know if it's signals or tendencies but they knew what was coming." We have the same issue here, you can't win like that.

 

[pinnacle]

brand...I think you are onto something here.. People nationally do not hate the Cardinals...in fact - instead of having rivals - I think we get pity from other cities. I think martz and parcells both let up on the Cardinals - they like mcginnis and would hate to see him fired after they blow us out (intentional or unintentional - not sure). If they were playing the eagles, redskins, etc...they would have put the hurt on us in the 2nd half. With emmitt coming here - we get more pity - poor emmitt..poor cardinals...

sad..

 

[pinnacle]

also..I am not on the we should have drafted suggs wagon.. But I was at the time and continue to be on the we should have taken leftwich bandwagon. My issue with him was the condition of his leg - but that seems to be a non-issue at the present time. We would still have boldin for leftwich to throw to (more than likely) and we probably would have signed a veteran if we would not have taken wr in round 1 and round 2.

 

[Northern Card]

This place is hilarious.

Since the beginning of the season, we have had posters (sometimes one and the same) say that the best thing we’ve done is drop Boston, now the reverse… people who’ve lauded our draft selections (now the reverse)… spoke to the need for veteran leadership, and now are regretting the signing of Emmit… love the Coach… hate the coach…On the bandwagon, off the bandwagon…etc., etc..

 

[john h]

Originally posted by Stout
And I was screaming...SCREAMING at the TV to draft Leftwich when he was there. Everyone here knows it. I was one of a few (Section 11 was another, I think) that wanted Lefty. Oh well. I guess, maybe, a 'franchise QB' will come along again for us.

Sorry Stout but I was preaching franchise QB all the time. A team needs a QB first and foremost in any rebuilding process. We have no QB on this team who will be here 5 years from now. People can say what is done is done and those that are gone are gone but history should teach us lessons and our owner and others in management do not seem to read history. I would like to have a lot of goody goody guys on the team who have their heads on right and still be good but a lot of these great athletes are complete head cases and you do not get rid of them because of that. Terrell Owens and Randy Moss are sort of nuts as is Boston. It is great to have the so called chemistery in the locker room but I would prefer some bad ass football players on the field.

 

[Northern Card]

Originally posted by john h
Sorry Stout but I was preaching franchise QB all the time. A team needs a QB first and foremost in any rebuilding process. We have no QB on this team who will be here 5 years from now. People can say what is done is done and those that are gone are gone but history should teach us lessons and our owner and others in management do not seem to read history. I would like to have a lot of goody goody guys on the team who have their heads on right and still be good but a lot of these great athletes are complete head cases and you do not get rid of them because of that. Terrell Owens and Randy Moss are sort of nuts as is Boston. It is great to have the so called chemistery in the locker room but I would prefer some bad ass football players on the field.

With respect. Spoken like a fan... who never spent a day in locker room. Guys who are a little off centre are not a problem... it's the LEON's of the dressing room.

Guys like Boston, Owens and Moss will be the first in front of a mike to talk about their dedication to winning on a good day... and the first to point fingers on a bad.

It's not so-called chemistry... it is CHEMISTRY that makes the difference between winning and losing over the course of a season, a career.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Originally posted by Northern Card
This place is hilarious.

Since the beginning of the season, we have had posters (sometimes one and the same) say that the best thing we’ve done is drop Boston, now the reverse… people who’ve lauded our draft selections (now the reverse)… spoke to the need for veteran leadership, and now are regretting the signing of Emmit… love the Coach… hate the coach…On the bandwagon, off the bandwagon…etc., etc..

yo northern, go check EVERYTHING i've EVER posted. i wanted boston here. is he a freak? yes. is he still better than every receiver on our team when healthy? yes. he was worth the cheddar. i hated our draft (except 'quan) and thought we should have taken lefty. check out EVERY post of mine. i think mac is a terrible coach. he's a great rah-rah type guy, but the man just gets his shorts pulled down week in and week out. check EVERY post of mine. before you start callin' peeps out for being hypocrites, know that many of us held these thoughts from the get-go.

not getting lefty was an incredible gaff. don't know if we'll recover (recover - who am i kidding? that presupposes we were ever healthy to begin with!) from that mistake.

 

[HoodieBets]

Before the draft i wasnt a fan of lefty i wanted suggs, i thought the trade was horrible. My biggest problem in the off-season was losing Boston. The guy is a flat out stud when hes healthy. The guy is the best physical WR in the league. He can fly by you or knock u the hell out. I loved boston still do. I swear to you if we kept DB emmitt would be better and the line would play better. He is a threat every week and teams treat him as such. This guy would have helped our offense greatly.

 

[Russ Smith]

One somewhat lost point in this is that Leftwich lit up San Diego, one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL currently. He is going to be a star but a lot of the focus is because he played so well yesterday, note the absence of Leftwich posts LAST week when he had 3 picks in his first start.

I picked him up on my fantasy team Thursday PRECISELY because he was playing the chargers. Right now both my transactions look smart because I picked up Shipp too and he may start to get some carries.