Leinart getting a screwed in Arizona?

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Tim Hasselbeck was on ESPN earlier after the game saying that #7 "may be getting a raw deal" for the Cards. He said his has talked to several players for the Cards (he did play here shortly) & they told him this. The players told Tim that Leinart has played better in camp & they feel he may be a better fit.

WTF :bang: Guess we'll find out in about a week
 

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+1 He is definately getting screwed, give the freaking guy his shot this season like you preached to us all offseason. Why tell us the guy has done everything right and has earned the right to be the guy just to rip the rug out from under him! Something stinks in this whole situation!
 

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He's most definitely getting screwed if he doesn't start week one. In all reality, Derek Anderson is having a pretty poor preseason. He's missed open receivers, he's made a few terrible decisions and outside of one pass to Williams against the Titans, I can't remember him throwing an accurate long ball. And although stats don't tell the whole story (as Whis just reminded us to justify the decision), not many QBs win starting jobs by putting up a 70.2 rating and averaging 5.4 ypa. If anything, they lose their jobs for those kind of numbers.
 

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Yeah, Tim Hasselbeck is a relaible source.
He should just shut up and live off his wife's earnings.
 

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Leinart played better than any QB to step on the field in Chicago in tonights game! Most efficient and should have really had 2 TD's if the stupid refs don't totally blow the fumble call on Beanie. Last I checked when a knee is down your down blown call even the announcers were baffled. Anyway Leinart plays the best out of any QB and Whiz still lays great praise on Anderson and not on Matt. Something definately stinks and I hope we don't lose Leinart before we get a true chance to see how much he learned from Kurt over the last few years. I have got to say he looks poised and making good decisions not trying to force the sportscenter plays just getting the job done efficiently. With a running game and a QB like that we could be very good, hopefully Whiz isn't really as enamored with Anderson as he seems to be!
 
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Yeah, Tim Hasselbeck is a relaible source.
He should just shut up and live off his wife's earnings.

just trying to report what I'm hearing. Why the hatred O? The guy played for the Cards & definately has some connections. This isn't like someone from ESPN reporting the Cards will finish last in the NFC West & win 4 games. I dont get the venom here.
 

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Leinart has been the best QB thus far. If he doesn't get the spot the only thing that means is Whisenhunt has a personal beef with him.
 

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just trying to report what I'm hearing. Why the hatred O? The guy played for the Cards & definately has some connections. This isn't like someone from ESPN reporting the Cards will finish last in the NFC West & win 4 games. I dont get the venom here.

Tim, I wish I had a job, Hassleback, who played for the Cards for a nanosecond, is a reliable source?

Every pundit who is fighting for airtime is going to have an opinion.
I agree, Leinart should start.
I am more informed about the Cards then Tim, freaking, Hassleback!
 

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just trying to report what I'm hearing. Why the hatred O? The guy played for the Cards & definately has some connections. This isn't like someone from ESPN reporting the Cards will finish last in the NFC West & win 4 games. I dont get the venom here.

BTW I just got the latest ESPN| the magazine and they picked the Cards to win the division and San Fran to finish last.
 

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Tim, I wish I had a job, Hassleback, who played for the Cards for a nanosecond, is a reliable source?

Every pundit who is fighting for airtime is going to have an opinion.
I agree, Leinart should start.
I am more informed about the Cards then Tim, freaking, Hassleback!

Seriously you don't think he still keeps in contact with former teammates no matter how brief his time here was?
 

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If true than this is starting to remind me of the Quinn/Anderson battle last year. This is gonna get uglier during the reg season.
 

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typical ESPN. Last week Leinart was the worst QB in the NFL, this week he's getting screwed. They do that with every story, get a couple guys on one side and a couple on the other and whichever side suits their story, put them on TV.
 

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You're right. He's Mister Insider!

So you completely dismiss that he talks to guy's he used to practice with? You never talk to anyone you used to work with? Dismissing it out of hand is rash IMO.
 

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It's interesting how much of a stickler Whiz is with turnovers...especially with THT and Beanie and yet it is clearly obvious that Matt is the more accurate passer. DA has the big arm but his inconsistancy and inaccuracy is a recipe for turnovers...1 stat you can look at in the box score generally tells the score is the turnover battle.....I think bottom line is Whiz has fell in love with DA's big arm and he just doesnt like Matt for some reason.
 

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Or, maybe we should take this all at face value until week 1. If leinart starts, then all of this hand wringing about "whiz just doesn't like Matty" is going to look pretty silly.
 

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Or, maybe we should take this all at face value until week 1. If leinart starts, then all of this hand wringing about "whiz just doesn't like Matty" is going to look pretty silly.

This.
 

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I think Whiz gave a real strong indication of which direction he is going when he said that there is more to it than stats....Matt eats him alive in stats....
 

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I feel at this point since Leinart has outplayed Anderson all preseason that not only is he getting a raw deal, but the team has wasted years off his career.

In my heart of hearts, I feel Leinart can be a top flight QB. His ceiling is that high. Leinart possesses some of the skill sets many coaches covet in a QB. He's accurate, smart, makes good decisions in and out of the pocket, and he can be a leader (despite what anyone else says).

For my sake, I hope he starts and tears it up this season so he can show not only the media but the coaches and the fans at this point who have treated him like garbage that he's worth a damn. Additionally, even if he starts winning ball games and becomes successful here, Leinart may not even want to re-sign here given the series of events that have gone on between him and Whisenhunt. But it is perplexing for me that if Whisenhunt truly has a vendetta out for Leinart, why is he still on the team? All I know is since we signed anderson, Whis has gone out of the way to praise his new starting QB. Now it has become a REAL QB competition, which in all reality wasnt supposed to go down like that, according to what we've heard "Leinart is THE guy"

I am all for the "In Whis we trust" statement, but the way he is handling this situation is odd to say the least. If he knows something we dont know (probably) then I guess it makes sense, but I havent seen a QB situation run this strangely since the 1999 Buffalo Bills, when they were 10-5 going into week 17 and Rob Johnson throws 4 TD passes in a meaningless game. Wade Phillips then decides that Johnson is the new guy after catching lightning in a bottle and starts him against the Titans in the playoffs (music city miracle game). Of course they lose and two years later, the coach and both QBs are no longer on the team.

IMO, Leinart is the guy based on skill set and familiarity with the ball club. My hope is that Whis makes a decision based on football facts and not malice.
 

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Go and watch the video of Whiz with his presser on AZcentral. He has a woodie for Anderson. Shane was right he gets giddie when he talks about him. He specifically said that with Matt his stats were good but there is more to it than stats. That right there tells the tale. Also, when he covered for Anderson's mishaps with accuracy. He said that he has really improved. Whiz is going with Anderson.
 

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Yeah, Tim Hasselbeck is a relaible source.
He should just shut up and live off his wife's earnings.

Lol! but hey, atleast someone in the media is standing up for Matt ...
 

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Go and watch the video of Whiz with his presser on AZcentral. He has a woodie for Anderson. Shane was right he gets giddie when he talks about him. He specifically said that with Matt his stats were good but there is more to it than stats. That right there tells the tale. Also, when he covered for Anderson's mishaps with accuracy. He said that he has really improved. Whiz is going with Anderson.

The "more to it" at this point seems simply that he doesn't like him.
 
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