Leinart on KTAR

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Bulger is a joke at this point in his carreer, no better than DA imo...

 

[wilycoyote24]

I have hated Leinart for a while now, but how he sounded in that interview just cements it for me. He has no leadership ability, no fire. Cut him!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I have hated Leinart for a while now, but how he sounded in that interview just cements it for me. He has no leadership ability, no fire. Cut him!

You evidently have issues...

 

[wilycoyote24]

You evidently have issues...

It's hyperbole, like when players describe games as wars. All I mean is that I haven't wanted him on the team for a couple of seasons now. He has no hope of ever being a decent QB in the NFL.

 

[Duckjake]

The guy was a bust even before this preseason. I think we as Cards fans had false hope that he would turn it around and he has done nothing but come in with mediocre performance after mediocre performance aside from that one average game he had vs Tennessee.

You know that is almost exactly what people were saying about Warner early in the 2006 season. With washed up being substituted for bust.

 

[wilycoyote24]

You know that is almost exactly what people were saying about Warner early in the 2006 season. With washed up being substituted for bust.

Ah, so by extension, your argument is that all players are great because it is POSSIBLE?

 

[D-Dogg]

Ah, so by extension, your argument is that all players are great because it is POSSIBLE?

That's a really ridiculous extension, but whatever lets you put words in his mouth.

 

[wilycoyote24]

That's a really ridiculous extension, but whatever lets you put words in his mouth.

It was a question. Therefore, I didn't put words in his mouth. I just think that people should see Leinart for what he is and not what everyone wants him to be.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Ah, so by extension, your argument is that all players are great because it is POSSIBLE?

Sophistry: a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.

 

[wilycoyote24]

Sophistry: a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.

Question must not be rooted in the plausible. Asking whether time travel is possible is a worthy scientific question. Yet, if current laws of physics are to be believe, it is impossible.

 

[D-Dogg]

It was a question. Therefore, I didn't put words in his mouth.

Uh huh. And if OJ killed his wife it was because he loved her very much.

 

[D-Dogg]

Question must not be rooted in the plausible. Asking whether time travel is possible is a worthy scientific question. Yet, if current laws of physics are to be believe, it is impossible.

You don't understand him.

 

[wilycoyote24]

You don't understand him.

I was accused of taking an argument to a unfounded extreme. Whether I did or did not is irrelevant. In fact, I intentionally did take it to an unrealistic extreme.

 

[D-Dogg]

But wily, you sure did kick the hell out of your strawman.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Question must not be rooted in the plausible. Asking whether time travel is possible is a worthy scientific question. Yet, if current laws of physics are to be believe, it is impossible.

I dunno, my wife tells me I'm still living in the 60's so maybe it is possible

 

[SunsTzu]

Yet, if current laws of physics are to be believe, it is impossible.

Actually according relativity it is possible.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

In all these interviews I keep seeing, Leinart keeps complaining about the lack of snaps he has had so far. My response is: he should of got more first down with the opportunities he had. He would have plenty of snaps if he didn't blow the chances he had.

 

[Buckybird]

In all these interviews I keep seeing, Leinart keeps complaining about the lack of snaps he has had so far. My response is: he should of got more first down with the opportunities he had. He would have plenty of snaps if he didn't blow the chances he had.

or if he wasn't knocked to the ground after 2.5 seconds on half of his snaps.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

In all these interviews I keep seeing, Leinart keeps complaining about the lack of snaps he has had so far. My response is: he should of got more first down with the opportunities he had. He would have plenty of snaps if he didn't blow the chances he had.

You do know that Matt can't get those first downs on his own, right?

 

[Buckybird]

You do know that Matt can't get those first downs on his own, right?

You mean Kurt or Peyton don't do it on their own?

 

[Duckjake]

Ah, so by extension, your argument is that all players are great because it is POSSIBLE?

What argument are you talking about?

 

[Cheesebeef]

In all these interviews I keep seeing, Leinart keeps complaining about the lack of snaps he has had so far. My response is: he should of got more first down with the opportunities he had. He would have plenty of snaps if he didn't blow the chances he had.

bulls-eye!

he short hops one first down... completely under-throws a bomb to a streaking WR... you get either one of those and you aren't yanked because you haven't done jack in 3 series.

 

[green machine]

bulls-eye!

he short hops one first down... completely under-throws a bomb to a streaking WR... you get either one of those and you aren't yanked because you haven't done jack in 3 series.

Of course, if Roberts doesn't bobble a well thrown ball he probably gets a first. If there isn't the false start Leinart throws for enough yardage. If Breaston goes to the sticks, like he should, it's a first.

I have a hard time buying that this move was made because Leinart led no drives in the Titans game.

 

[TJ]

In all these interviews I keep seeing, Leinart keeps complaining about the lack of snaps he has had so far. My response is: he should of got more first down with the opportunities he had. He would have plenty of snaps if he didn't blow the chances he had.

Sure but in all actuality, Anderson hasnt done any better and the argument can be made that he has done worse. To me it seems as if DA is starting because he completed one 30+ yard pass while Leinart has a long of 16.

Additionally, you have to consider all of the variables: porous performance from the entire line which has resulted in a lack of running attack (which was supposed to be our bread and butter this season). Defenses have been getting pressure on Leinart with 4 man rushes and with only 2 seconds to make a throw and all of the receivers bracketed with the exception of the check down option, it really makes it tough on Matt.

 

[Shane]

Sure but in all actuality, Anderson hasnt done any better and the argument can be made that he has done worse. To me it seems as if DA is starting because he completed one 30+ yard pass while Leinart has a long of 16.

Additionally, you have to consider all of the variables: porous performance from the entire line which has resulted in a lack of running attack (which was supposed to be our bread and butter this season). Defenses have been getting pressure on Leinart with 4 man rushes and with only 2 seconds to make a throw and all of the receivers bracketed with the exception of the check down option, it really makes it tough on Matt.

Seems like all you guys harp on in this move is the throwing aspect of the QB's game. When right before the Texans game whiz was VERY specific saying that he was necessarily concerned with that when it came to Matt. It was all the intangibles that he was more interested in looking at. How much of a leader he was etc.. etc..

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2290838&postcount=109

After the game Whiz was freaking pissed. He said that #1 WR's were lining up in the wrong spots and plays were being run that way etc..

QB's who are the leaders/coach on the field in year 4 in the system in no way shape or form should let that happen. How many times did you see Warner redirect a WR to the right spot? Happened quite a bit. That all has to do with having complete command of the offense and being a leader.

To me this move has to do more with that rather than actual physical performance. JMO.