Leinart versus Manning or Brady

[Westgate Danimal]

Leinart's had essentially one full season as a QB, if that, and you guys feel you can pick apart where he's going to be 5 - 10 years from now? I don't think you can judge anyone's future potential this early in their career.

I have no idea how good (or bad) he will be, but I'm very willing to give him the time to find out. I believe he has tons of potential.

True that! Remember how Aikman looked after one season? I think he turned out pretty good. Accuracy was his forte. Leinart certainly needs to make strides, but it is impossible to be predictive about his future success at this time.

 

[D-Dogg]

LEAVE MATT LEINART ALONE!!! All he wants to do is play for you and all you do is bash him! LEAVE MATT ALONE!!

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[RonF]

LEAVE MATT LEINART ALONE!!! All he wants to do is play for you and all you do is bash him! LEAVE MATT ALONE!!

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I'm not bashing Matt as you say, I'm just stating an opinion that he may not be the starting QB in the future for many reasons. I'll stop commenting at this point and just wait and see how he develops next year. I sure don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

 

[FightOnCards]

Yes, I think you can tell a QB right out of the box if he is a gamer or not. There are certain qualities you can see in a player that give you that warm fuzzy feeling we all want. I have'nt seen that in Leinart, yet. It may come, time will tell.

Check with female Cards fans - I think Matt Leinart gives plenty of women that warm, fuzzy feeling.

 

[D-Dogg]

I'm not bashing Matt as you say, I'm just stating an opinion that he may not be the starting QB in the future for many reasons. I'll stop commenting at this point and just wait and see how he develops next year. I sure don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I wasn't really saying anything. Just recycling a joke.

 

[Linderbee]

Check with female Cards fans - I think Matt Leinart gives plenty of women that warm, fuzzy feeling.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Well, in your post I believe you said if you look at some of Leinart's best games and if so, yes, he can be our QB of the future...bringing up Manning and Brady in a comparison is laughable...almost didn't read this post because of that.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I think ML has most of the quailities you look for in a QBOF. The one thing I see missing is arm strength. But there are plenty QB'S in the HOF that didn't have great arms. Way too early to tell IMHO.

 

[Jetstream Green]

His arm strength is just as good as Montana's which is then good enough for me. Arm strength at the Qb position and speed at the WR position are two overrated attributes to success at those respected positions.

 

[Wild Card]

(Leinart's) arm strength is just as good as Montana's which is then good enough for me.

JG:

The keys to Joe Montana's game were field vision and accuracy, not arm strength, although he could get the ball downfield on occasion. And don't overlook his ability to scramble for first downs when given the opportunity. Maybe most important was his uncanny calm and command under pressure.

Unless a quarterback has some of Montana's other abilities, matching his arm strength alone is meaningless. Because if the 49ers had been trying to run a vertical offense like the old Raiders, Joe would've been a backup. At best.

WC

 

[cardsfanmd]

His arm strength is just as good as Montana's which is then good enough for me. Arm strength at the Qb position and speed at the WR position are two overrated attributes to success at those respected positions.

I really wonder whether Montana would be nearly as effective in today's game. The modern day game's overall speed is unbelieveable. That speed makes the window a QB has to fit the ball in significantly smaller. With the size and speed in Ds now, especially a well run 3-4, the West Coast offense that Montana thrived in is not nearly as effective as when Walsh introduced it to the league. IMO you really need a decent arm to be successfull in today's game.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I like Leinart. He has the smarts, the drive, the wideouts (very important), and above all, great moxie. I really believe he has what it takes. His arm strength really doesn't concern me any longer. What does scare me is how fragile he apparently is. Not a knock on him really, but you have to be an absolute freak of nature to stay healthy in today's game.

 

[Wild Card]

I really wonder whether Montana would be nearly as effective in today's game. The modern day game's overall speed is unbelieveable. That speed makes the window a QB has to fit the ball in significantly smaller. With the size and speed in Ds now, especially a well run 3-4, the West Coast offense that Montana thrived in is not nearly as effective as when Walsh introduced it to the league. IMO you really need a decent arm to be successfull in today's game.

CF:

Don't underestimate Montana. We're not talking Chad Pennington, here. Joe was perfectly capable of throwing down the field, if he had Rice or Taylor open deep. It's just that he didn't have a cannon like Elway, is all.

WC

 

[cardsfanmd]

CF:

Don't underestimate Montana. We're not talking Chad Pennington, here. Joe was perfectly capable of throwing down the field, if he had Rice or Taylor open deep. It's just that he didn't have a cannon like Elway, is all.

WC

Montana's arm was below average then, and would be better than maybe only Pennington, McNair, or Leinarts(?) right now as far as season starters go. Matt can throw 40+ downfield and hit a guy in stride as well. Montana's arm was literally half of Elway's. Why aren't you pimping your boy Cleo Lemon here?

 

[Wild Card]

Montana's arm was below average then, and would be better than maybe only Pennington, McNair, or Leinarts(?) right now as far as season starters go. Matt can throw 40+ downfield and hit a guy in stride as well. Montana's arm was literally half of Elway's. Why aren't you pimping your boy Cleo Lemon here?

CFMD:

How'd you get from Joe Montana to Cleo Lemon? And what would make a journeyman like Lemon "my boy"? I guess drug intake really does go up during the bye week...

WC

 

[cardsfanmd]

WC,
Why do you show up only after the fin's season is over?

 

[Wild Card]

Why do you show up only after the fin's season is over?

CFMD:

Off-topic and inaccurate, as even a brief review of my 4+ years of posts would show. Since you're new to this discussion, I'll share with you that I've been a Dolphins fan since--I'm guessing--before you were born, and I've rooted for the home team Cardinals since moving to Arizona over a decade ago. I know that the "cheering for two different teams" is a challenging concept for some, but there it is.

Sounds like you're bored, and trying to pick a fight. Good luck with that.

WC