Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

[Russ Smith]

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On the doesn't get along with his teammates stuff remember there is actual video of Kyler firing balls in the lockerroom that hit teammates, interrupt teammates in the shower etc.

Oh wait, that was a commercial for a VR headset.

Nevermind

 

[TheCardFan]

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[TRW]

Source: A ‘Flat-Out Lie’ That Kyler Murray Calls Girlfriend at Halftime of Games - Compare.bet® US

Cardinals' star quarterback has seen character attacked in recent days.

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2 words in that article made me flush it...Dan Bickley.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Odds he actually wrote that himself?

Who cares? Glad he posted it. Now get your ass in the film room young man.

 

[tnmike]

I can't believe people are still bitching about an 11 win season when most of the ones bitchin didn't expect a better than 8 win season. Especially after all of the very crappy seasons we've endured in the past. Gone are the days of Max Hall & Derek Anderson.

Maybe they are mad because they didn't get the 8 win season?

 

[dscher]

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Perfect example of how things are likely run over there on Hardy Dr.

 

[TJ]

I can't believe people are still bitching about an 11 win season when most of the ones bitchin didn't expect a better than 8 win season. Especially after all of the very crappy seasons we've endured in the past. Gone are the days of Max Hall & Derek Anderson.

Should I be happy that our QB is being dragged for his immaturity, especially with an extension forthcoming?

Should I be happy that we ended the season playing worse than the Lions and the Jaguars?

Should I be happy that Steve Keim is drafting in April for what's seemingly a make-or-break draft for this organization?

Should I be happy that we have a ton of holes to fill with limited cap space?

11 wins seems like is gonna seem like prehistoric times fairly soon

 

[GatorAZ]

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[reebokalone2001]

After seeing these insane amounts of twitter news about Kyler, do not know which is one is true, he either just made himself a focal point from the media or a PR nightmare.

 

[unseenaz]

god I can't wait for the draft. this is going to be a story until then, isn't it?

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

The longer all this stuff goes on the worse it's probably gonna get. IDK what's gonna happen but it doesn't sound good right now. Keim most definitely has his work cut out for him but he'll fix it with a few good trades & a few bandages lol. Notice I didn't mention draft picks.

 

[nashman]

Keim tried to put pieces around Kyler to help him succeed. He even drafted Kyler's hand-picked receiver in Moore, got him a big receiver in A.J. and a solid center in Hudson. Add in James Conner and the supporting cast eas decent but not elite. When Conner was productive, Kyler had a decent ground game to take off some of the pressure.

Yeah Keim does a lousy job with the draft, but I think he did a decent job last off-season putting together a competitive roster. The disastrous finish is more on the coaches and their inability to adjust and overcome critical injuries IMO.

You can’t say he did a good job with the roster when a few critical injuries made the team fall apart, that is the definition of poor depth! He got some over the hill players that lasted half a season or just didn’t produce many games like AJ! And still drafting players that can’t get or stay on the field!

 

[GatorAZ]

Maybe not fair different part of ESPN but they lost all cred with the DeAndre Ayton story where over time it's become 100% clear they were wrong, they got the details of teh call wrong, and to this day they refuse to admit they were wrong.

But Mort is not that guy so not fair to assume he's wrong either

Mort has broken one big story in recent memory and it was a false report about Deflategate. He hasn’t been relevant in years… I thought they were grooming Jeremy Fowler to be the next Shefter.

I would like to hear a report that Murray and the Cards met in person and have taken steps to clean up this mess going forward.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Odegard's source must be Kyler himself

 

[BritCard]

Wow! I can't imagine the uncertainty and lack of security. Then again, generational differences.

Different than our day I guess with the gig economy. You can pick up jobs and discard them like confetti now.

 

[BritCard]

So he needs perfect circumstances to excel, which tells me he won't. Keim and Kliff may very well suck, but that doesn't at all give KM a pass.

This is the point everyone is missing.

When you are 10-2 going into the last 5 games of the season without your WR1 you need a QB who says "I got this. We can do this. It's a big loss but we are not a one man team".

Not a guy who shrivels when the pressure is on. Sit's sulking on the sidelines and refuses to go in and finish off a playoff game.

I think all this is the best thing that could happen to Kyler. He's spent his whole career without adversity cruising to easy wins before the NFL, this might be the kick in the pants he needs.

 

[BritCard]

Sad to see Keim has you & Brit by the throat.

What? When have I defended Keim? I've said several times in this thread I want him gone.

 

[BritCard]

It’s rather strange. Kyler is the only above average NFL player Keim has drafted in the last 4 years, yet there’s some like BritCard who want to keep Keim and dump Kyler.

Where have I said I want to keep Keim? That's a flat out lie.

Just for clarity.

I want Keim gone and have done for a while. Just because I disagree with those rewriting recent history to serve their own needs doesn't mean I want to keep him. This whole board, and I mean whole board, was saying what a great job Keim had done with year up to the point we were 10-2.

"Watt has been great", "Conner has been a bargain", "I thought AJ Green was washed but he's been a really good addition", "Hudson makes the line so much better". People were even crowning Antoine Wesley as a good pickup.

All that is still true after 17 games. Keim can only provide the players. He can't control them taking a huge dump on the field when the pressure is on.

I want him gone in general for a change in culture and a poor draft history. That doesn't change the fact that THIS season he did a good job. We had the same roster for 10-2 as we did for 1-5.

Same goes for Kliff. I was one of the biggest "Fire Kliff" guys on here before this season and I've made numerous posts breaking down various aspects of his scheme that I think have been highly lacking. Again, that doesn't mean I can't recognize that in general he did a good job this year. The man had 11 wins. You don't get 11 wins without doing a good job, but he wasn't perfect by any means.

Kyler is in many ways the reverse. I had high expectations of him this year which he more than fulfilled through 8 games. Hallelujah, all is saved. And then the old issues came back. The bad body language. The sulky sideline stints. A seeming lack of the ability just to say "I was bad today. I let everyone down" as many other QBs do and instead say everyone had a bad game.

Of the 3 I would still keep Kyler if I had to choose. But if he did delete his socials to try force a new contract it's now a much closer decision than it should be.

 

[Stout]

I dont think asking for a stronger HC and better GM is asking for perfect circumstances. Many people here have said the exact same things. He's gotta get better, but so does everyone else at their job.

I agree--he needs to get better and so does everyone else.

 

[Stout]

It’s rather strange. Kyler is the only above average NFL player Keim has drafted in the last 4 years, yet there’s some like BritCard who want to keep Keim and dump Kyler.

Why is it all on everyone else and nothing on Kyler with you? It's possible that KM's not the player he needs to be, AND we need to get rid of Kliff AND Keim needs to be gone. I'd say all three are problems right now, regardless of which one is worse.

 

[SoonerLou]

This is the point everyone is missing.

When you are 10-2 going into the last 5 games of the season without your WR1 you need a QB who says "I got this. We can do this. It's a big loss but we are not a one man team".

Not a guy who shrivels when the pressure is on. Sit's sulking on the sidelines and refuses to go in and finish off a playoff game.

I think all this is the best thing that could happen to Kyler. He's spent his whole career without adversity cruising to easy wins before the NFL, this might be the kick in the pants he needs.

This is where the result is changing your perspective. He did say that

Obviously, that’s a big hit,” Murray said, via Kevin Parrish Jr. of the team’s website. “That’s a guy we all know and trust out there on the field. But it’s a long season and not all the time are you going to make it to the end with your full army.

“We just have to have guys behind him step up and I’m confident in every single one of those guys. We have a deep receiving room, we have a deep running back room, we got a ton of skill.”


I think the reality is Hopkins was as major of a cog to our offense as Watt was to our defense. In his current development he wasnt good enough to overcome it, Keim's depth at WR kind of got exposed without Hopkins. Rondale Moore predictably got injured as well, AJ Green showed real signs of age and there was far more attention on Kirk. Doesnt help the RB room had its issues as well

As Dvontel said. Its not a lot asking for a guy to have his top target. And we should be able to agree that he fell off, but have context about what happened as well. Especially how schematically things changed against us. He's gotta get better, but we should be over depending on Wrs in their mid 30s basically.

I do agree this adversity will be good for him.

 

[Chopper0080]

It’s rather strange. Kyler is the only above average NFL player Keim has drafted in the last 4 years, yet there’s some like BritCard who want to keep Keim and dump Kyler.

I am sure there are people on this board who label me anti-Kyler...that said, I take Kyler over Keim 10 out of 10 times.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

He never said anything and he was roasted. Now he says something and he is roasted. There are alot of people with vivid imaginations that maybe need to get a life

Scrubs his Instagram then says nothing about it for days then releases a statement saying "I'm not about all of this nonsense." Uh, you started all of this nonsense.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Scrubs his Instagram then says nothing about it for days then releases a statement saying "I'm not about all of this nonsense." Uh, you started all of this nonsense.

yes, this. I thought the exact same thing. He is acting like he isnt trying to bring attention to himself, but in fact...

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Scrubs his Instagram then says nothing about it for days then releases a statement saying "I'm not about all of this nonsense." Uh, you started all of this nonsense.

The beginning of this is definitely on him. The way that it has spiraled is an organizational issue.

All sides look like bantha fodder.