Lindley time

[BigRedRage]

I still dont understand why we are bothering giving lindley this game, logan needs the reps and is clearly better already. Per jureki and others, logan is the #3 period (which is to be expected) and soon he wont see a single other snap until next year. These reps could be monumental to his future and we are going to spend them on a guy we are cutting in a few weeks.

Quarterback Ryan Lindley struggled throughout his snaps, consistently throwing behind receivers. But he wasn’t helped either when Reggie Dunn dropped two passes. With Logan Thomas getting the majority of third-team snaps for the last couple weeks, this week was Lindley’s first chance to work in game situations with his receivers. Lindley was also intercepted by Antonio Cromartie and Patrick Peterson.

http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/8026/cardinals-camp-report-day-15

 

[GuernseyCard]

Lindley gets this opportunity because he's been a good soldier and Arians is a man of his word; a message not lost on the dressing room.

He has an opportunity to put down some good tape, and perhaps some team will give up a 7th rather than wait on waivers.

As for Thomas... let's not exaggerate the importance of a pre-season half at this point in his career, considering that he'll get time under centre in the third and fourth game.

 

[BigRedRage]

Lindley gets this opportunity because he's been a good soldier and Arians is a man of his word; a message not lost on the dressing room.

He has an opportunity to put down some good tape, and perhaps some team will give up a 7th rather than wait on waivers.

As for Thomas... let's not exaggerate the importance of a pre-season half at this point in his career, considering that he'll get time under centre in the third and fourth game.

He will but I would prefer he gets as much time this preseason as possible as next year Carson could be gone and Logan would at worst become our #2.

I highly doubt we can get any compensation for Lindley, I prefer to give experience to our new guy.

Plus I dont want to watch lindley at all if they put in logan id be more inclined to watch the 2nd half.

 

[ManinAZ]

So is it safe to say there is pretty much nothing Lindley can do to move ahead of Logan?

 

[BigRedRage]

So is it safe to say there is pretty much nothing Lindley can do to move ahead of Logan?

Logan was a draft pick this year and if they try to sneak him through waivers someone will snatch him up. No way the team keeps 4QB.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Lindley never had a chance. They are not cutting their 4th round pick. Lindley has been kept around to try to drum up trade value, and also as insurance in case one of the others goes down during camp/ preseason.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Lindley gets this opportunity because he's been a good soldier and Arians is a man of his word; a message not lost on the dressing room.

He has an opportunity to put down some good tape, and perhaps some team will give up a 7th rather than wait on waivers.

+1

If you want men to run through a wall for you, you have to have integrity. I know that is a lost mantra in today's modern world of mercenaries and the almighty dollar. But, players get paid regardless, thus the motivation of players is key.

There is nothing more powerful than a man driven by some cause, or for something he believes in. Take it from someone that is currently stuck in a zombie state, it is a beautiful thing to see a man driven by cause, at this point I am almost jealous of anyone that has it.

Point being, Arians has to get these guys to believe, and get them so they are in the mindset of being driven to succeed. It goes a long way in this sport, just look at Seattle last year, and the Ravens the year before. Thus if Lindley has done nothing to take away his deserved playing time tomorrow, then he should get it. It keeps everyone in camp on the same page, that even if you are not making the Cardinals roster, for the work put in the Cardinals camp, you will at least be able to have tape to show other teams. That tape is some of these guys' livelihood after the cut to 53.

At least that is my take on it, because if I were running the show for the Cardinals Lindley would have been cut with Skelton and Kolb.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

So is it safe to say there is pretty much nothing Lindley can do to move ahead of Logan?

Yep.

Not saying it is impossible, but as you put it, it is pretty much not going to happen.

 

[Hollywood]

So is it safe to say there is pretty much nothing Lindley can do to move ahead of Logan?

Unless he wants to go all tanya harding on Thomas he wont beat him out.

Lindley never had a chance. They are not cutting their 4th round pick. Lindley has been kept around to try to drum up trade value, and also as insurance in case one of the others goes down during camp/ preseason.

This is the only argument that makes sense to me. Lindley has been in the league, what? 2 years or is it 3? He has tape.

 

[Garthshort]

Next two games give Lindley a chance to show the other 31 teams that he's worth picking up. Are you listening KW?

 

[kerouac9]

You have to take at least four QBs into camp. There aren't enough live balls for receivers without it. That's why Lindley is still here, because the difference between him and the camp arms we've seen in the past is zero in financial commitment but pretty large in terms of quality of production.

Lindley has no trade value. That's a joke.

Lindley has no chance of making this team unless something catastrophic happens to one of the other three quarterbacks.

Lindley is repaid for being a good solider on the field and in the media by getting a chance to put a bunch of plays on tape against a dreadful, terrible secondary and an even worse defensive line. If he can't succeed under this conditions, he's not going to be successful. Period.

 

[Iceman]

I like Lindley and was high on him coming out of SDSU. Logan is by far the better QB at this point. I am all for Arians giving him these games to showcase him to other teams. Lindley is way better than Gabbart, so maybe we will see Lindley in a 49ers uniform (as nasty as that sounds!).

 

[kerouac9]

I like Lindley and was high on him coming out of SDSU. Logan is by far the better QB at this point. I am all for Arians giving him these games to showcase him to other teams. Lindley is way better than Gabbart, so maybe we will see Lindley in a 49ers uniform (as nasty as that sounds!).

I don't believe that this is objectively or subjectively true. Lindley was terrible; Gabbert was merely way below average. And injury prone. Gabbert has tools (namely mobility) that Lindley can't ever hope to possess.

 

[Mulli]

Trade value? Lindley? Wha?

 

[Chaz]

I like how everybody knows exactly how good or valuable Lindley is when nobody has seen him in a game situation for a year.

If the coaches thought he was that terrible (0 or <0 value)then he would be gone already.

I am not saying I like his chances but he deserves a chance to play in preseason and make his case.

 

[Mulli]

You have to take at least four QBs into camp. There aren't enough live balls for receivers without it. That's why Lindley is still here, because the difference between him and the camp arms we've seen in the past is zero in financial commitment but pretty large in terms of quality of production.

Lindley has no trade value. That's a joke.

Lindley has no chance of making this team unless something catastrophic happens to one of the other three quarterbacks.

Lindley is repaid for being a good solider on the field and in the media by getting a chance to put a bunch of plays on tape against a dreadful, terrible secondary and an even worse defensive line. If he can't succeed under this conditions, he's not going to be successful. Period.

This

 

[BullheadCardFan]

You have to take at least four QBs into camp. There aren't enough live balls for receivers without it. That's why Lindley is still here, because the difference between him and the camp arms we've seen in the past is zero in financial commitment but pretty large in terms of quality of production.

Lindley has no trade value. That's a joke.

Lindley has no chance of making this team unless something catastrophic happens to one of the other three quarterbacks.

Lindley is repaid for being a good solider on the field and in the media by getting a chance to put a bunch of plays on tape against a dreadful, terrible secondary and an even worse defensive line. If he can't succeed under this conditions, he's not going to be successful. Period.

Agree. Well put.

 

[D-Dogg]

Lindley time? Sounds like a threat.

 

[kerouac9]

I like how everybody knows exactly how good or valuable Lindley is when nobody has seen him in a game situation for a year.

If the coaches thought he was that terrible (0 or <0 value)then he would be gone already.

I am not saying I like his chances but he deserves a chance to play in preseason and make his case.

He does have value, just not as a roster-quality NFL football player. His value is as a camp arm to provide passes to players who may have a chance on an NFL roster, plus to make handoffs to players who may have a chance on an NFL roster.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Lindley gets this opportunity because he's been a good soldier and Arians is a man of his word; a message not lost on the dressing room.

He has an opportunity to put down some good tape, and perhaps some team will give up a 7th rather than wait on waivers.

As for Thomas... let's not exaggerate the importance of a pre-season half at this point in his career, considering that he'll get time under centre in the third and fourth game.

This... We may not get anything for Lindley... and I'm sure BA knows that. Which is why I respect BA even more, for providing Lindley the chance to put up a good enough showing such that, when the Cards do cut him loose he'll have some tape to use for his benefit...

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

Lindley time? Sounds like a threat.

Now that's funny!

 

[Cardiac]

You have to take at least four QBs into camp. There aren't enough live balls for receivers without it. That's why Lindley is still here, because the difference between him and the camp arms we've seen in the past is zero in financial commitment but pretty large in terms of quality of production.

Lindley has no trade value. That's a joke.

Lindley has no chance of making this team unless something catastrophic happens to one of the other three quarterbacks.

Lindley is repaid for being a good solider on the field and in the media by getting a chance to put a bunch of plays on tape against a dreadful, terrible secondary and an even worse defensive line. If he can't succeed under this conditions, he's not going to be successful. Period.

He did the individual quarterback drills and after practice would run through the practice script with little-used receivers Kevin Ozier and Reggie Dunn, just to get some throws. But for the bulk of practice, he had to watch as Logan Thomas took all the third-unit snaps and then played an entire half in the preseason opener.

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...rn-At-QB/60bc9cab-d29b-4a19-a635-248ab74c6456

It was always my understanding that teams needed 4 arms for camp but this article refutes that.

I can't see how Lindley would have trade value since we only had to give up a 7th rounder for CP, unless it's an age thing. If Lindley has a superb outing against the Vikings then maybe a QB starved team will over us ......

Sorry can't finish that sentence with a straight face.

IF Lindley lights up the Vikings they may want him after they cut Ponderererere.

I agree with Rugby's post and your point that BA is simply honoring his word with is the BA way which is a great thing.

 

[Shaggy]

So if Lindley has a 150 yrds, 2 TD, 0 INT outing, you guys still going to think that he doesn't belong on a roster somewhere and say he did so well because he was playing against 3rd stringers? I like Lindley. He was thrown to the wolves because KW and he really wasn't ready. I doubt he has a job here after TC but I hope he finds his way to another team.

 

[machgman]

There is really no downside to having Lindley play as long as you keep in mind that BA wants to see if Lindley has been able to improve under Tom Moore's pointers and if Lindley can finally produce some decent numbers in a NFL game, something he has been unable to do in every game he has played in so far.

If he can, then he is possible trade bait, especially to Whisenhunt who was totally mesmerized by the fact Lindley threw perfect, beautiful spirals that unfortunately, just as he did in college and in the pros, often were not accurate. Face it, the best Lindley ever did with good receivers in college was 55% completion. And he has never done well in the NFL. Granted, he got a raw deal in that he had to be "trained" by Whisenhunt who managed to "develop" every QB prospect into worse and worse performances than they produced the year before (Leinart, Anderson, the big back-up QB from Pittsburgh, Bartel, Hall, Skelton, Kolb, Hoyer, and Lindley - Warner was not a prospect, he merely ignored Whisenhunt's "tutoring" with Todd Hailey's help and instead played his game which led the Cards to wins).

Lindley has been a good soldier and teammate, so let's wish him the best and hopes he has improved under the genius of Tom Moore. If he plays lights out, they he could return some trade value to the Cards. If not, hopefully he may be signed by another team.

As for Logan Thomas, I agree with the Cards to bring him along slowly and keep him working to improve on the plays that give him trouble as well as maintaining his recent stellar improvement in passing accuracy.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

There is really no downside to having Lindley play as long as you keep in mind that BA wants to see if Lindley has been able to improve under Tom Moore's pointers and if Lindley can finally produce some decent numbers in a NFL game, something he has been unable to do in every game he has played in so far.

If he can, then he is possible trade bait, especially to Whisenhunt who was totally mesmerized by the fact Lindley threw perfect, beautiful spirals that unfortunately, just as he did in college and in the pros, often were not accurate. Face it, the best Lindley ever did with good receivers in college was 55% completion. And he has never done well in the NFL. Granted, he got a raw deal in that he had to be "trained" by Whisenhunt who managed to "develop" every QB prospect into worse and worse performances than they produced the year before (Leinart, Anderson, the big back-up QB from Pittsburgh, Bartel, Hall, Skelton, Kolb, Hoyer, and Lindley - Warner was not a prospect, he merely ignored Whisenhunt's "tutoring" with Todd Hailey's help and instead played his game which led the Cards to wins).

Lindley has been a good soldier and teammate, so let's wish him the best and hopes he has improved under the genius of Tom Moore. If he plays lights out, they he could return some trade value to the Cards. If not, hopefully he may be signed by another team.

As for Logan Thomas, I agree with the Cards to bring him along slowly and keep him working to improve on the plays that give him trouble as well as maintaining his recent stellar improvement in passing accuracy.

If we are counting this preseason game as "an NFL game" than we have to count what he did last preseason. He went 27/46 (59%), 370 yards (8 YPA), threw 2 TDs and had no interceptions. I would say those are at least decent numbers.