Livengood's replacement?

[Gaddabout]

Mao, you seem to be making a case that Livengood should offer Dykes the HC job. You haven't liked any of the other candidates.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Mao, you seem to be making a case that Livengood should offer Dykes the HC job. You haven't liked any of the other candidates.

Well, for starters Dykes and Jimbo don't have mutual interest so that's moot. Also I actually hope Livengood hires one of these guys and fails miserably as he deserves as much for John Mackovic and Tim Floyd.

Who do I think UNLV should hire? Considering Livengood and/or UNLV boosters have mandated that the candidate have HC experience it makes the pickings pretty slim. I'd probably go after DeWayne Walker. Las Vegas > Las Cruces.

 

[Dback Jon]

Not every Wildcat is a saint. I should know this as a former Wildcat later became a prized recruit for Hauck after Mike Stoops kicked him out of Tucson for incidents off the field (I heard he flashed a gun at a party amongst other things). This player later landed in jail for an armed home invasion in Montana. It might shock you but most coaches in this country choose not to have gun-waving headcases with awful grades join their program.

And as far as your second point goes - I do follow college football. It's not my fault you don't follow your own conference enough to realize one of it's coaches has been a scumbag at every level for the better part of the last decade.

I am very familiar with all the allegations against Hauck - I have seen Montana play both in Flagstaff and Missoula, and have a number of friends that are UM grads, read and post on egriz, championshipsubdivision.com, etc. Been through all of these allegations time and time again. Has Hauck recruited a couple of questionable players? Yup, like every other coach in America. Has he ever been dinged by the NCAA for it? Nope.

The reality of FCS level football is that you do get some of the scraps of FBS football. Are you saying these kids should NEVER get another chance to play football?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

The reality of FCS level football is that you do get some of the scraps of FBS football. Are you saying these kids should NEVER get another chance to play football?

Maybe they should get second chances, I just wouldn't want my program to be the one giving them out. There's enough good kids out there that can play and help your team win even at the FCS level.

You're also not acknowledging that Hauck recruited the same type of players at Washington when that program was the top dog on the West Coast.

 

[Dback Jon]

Maybe they should get second chances, I just wouldn't want my program to be the one giving them out. There's enough good kids out there that can play and help your team win even at the FCS level.

You're also not acknowledging that Hauck recruited the same type of players at Washington when that program was the top dog on the West Coast.

And they won. Did they get sanctioned by the NCAA?

To win in the NCAA, you can't win without a few thugs or questionable behavior guys.

 

[Gaddabout]

Well, for starters Dykes and Jimbo don't have mutual interest so that's moot. Also I actually hope Livengood hires one of these guys and fails miserably as he deserves as much for John Mackovic and Tim Floyd.

Who do I think UNLV should hire? Considering Livengood and/or UNLV boosters have mandated that the candidate have HC experience it makes the pickings pretty slim. I'd probably go after DeWayne Walker. Las Vegas > Las Cruces.

I think HC experience is overrated. It's an unwarranted requirement meant to show a lack of faith in the AD to hire a qualified head coach. Coordinator and recruiting experience is invaluable at the college level.

I'd definitely be interested in Dykes, but I'd give a longer thought about Bryan Harsin. Walker would be great if UNLV could get him because he could cherry pick USC's and UCLA's non-qualifiers. He'd have more money to hire a better recruiting staff. He could probably turn UNLV into another Utah, defense version.

Walker was my choice over Erickson at ASU, but Love had the same silly agenda. And look what we got. Unless your name is Bear, Paterno, or Petey, no such thing as a savior HC in college football. And even Carroll is looking less shiny these days. I fully believe college football is all about the staff, the staff, the staff. The staff recruits. The staff teaches. The staff game plans. The staff knows your player's indiscretions. HC's live and die by the quality of their staff. It's not all about money -- Tennessee tried to prove otherwise, but they're just full of themselves -- but it is all about the quality of recruiters, teachers and game planners you have on staff. My head coach would be the one that could assemble the best staff regardless of budget, and Walker could assemble in incredible staff -- especially a recruiting staff.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Dykes will go somewhere next year, Arizona returns basically their entire offense plus get Grigsby and Gronkowski healthy. He'll be a very hot name/ I think he'd be terrific at somewhere like UTEP who by now must be getting sick of the Mike Price charade. Boise coaches are going to be a tough sell to boosters these days after DK and Hawkins.

Surprised you're somewhat throwing in the towel on Erickson so soon, remember the state of ASU compared to Arizona two years ago today? You hit on a couple recruits and your future outlook can change very quickly. And I agree about coaching staffs in college unless you're a destination-type school. One thing you did not mention is evaluating however. The assistants do most of the player evaluation in high school and the head coach just signs off on whether or not to offer. That initial process of determining who is a good or bad fit systemically, physically, and emotionally to your specific program is the foundation of a good football team. That's where ASU has run into trouble just like Stoops did in his first few recruiting classes. Lots of high ratings on rivals, not much production on the field.

 

[Gaddabout]

Surprised you're somewhat throwing in the towel on Erickson so soon, remember the state of ASU compared to Arizona two years ago today? You hit on a couple recruits and your future outlook can change very quickly. And I agree about coaching staffs in college unless you're a destination-type school. One thing you did not mention is evaluating however. The assistants do most of the player evaluation in high school and the head coach just signs off on whether or not to offer. That initial process of determining who is a good or bad fit systemically, physically, and emotionally to your specific program is the foundation of a good football team. That's where ASU has run into trouble just like Stoops did in his first few recruiting classes. Lots of high ratings on rivals, not much production on the field.

Totally agree on evaluation, too. Another good point.

Not throwing in the towel on Erickson. He's doing the right thing by waiting on the OC, even if it cost him Pete Thomas. It's the right priority, and some of the people he's interviewing sound like the right fit to me (Eric Price, Mike Johnson, etc.). He was just never my choice. I hate "quick fixes." Don't believe in them. Love hired Erickson because she needed a safe hire so early in her tenure. She couldn't afford to swing for the fences and whiff.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

What's your take on Koetter and UNLV? He apparently really wants the job.

I think it would be a better fit for him from a personality-standpoint than ASU.

 

[Dback Jon]

What's your take on Koetter and UNLV? He apparently really wants the job.

I think it would be a better fit for him from a personality-standpoint than ASU.

Has he even interviewed? LV papers say only Hauck and Franchionne were interviewing.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Has he even interviewed? LV papers say only Hauck and Franchionne were interviewing.

Not sure if he's interviewed but I imagine Livengood knows him somewhat well regardless. Someone (probably himself) has been pushing his candidacy though as his name continues to pop up.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Totally agree on evaluation, too. Another good point.

Since I'm more of a jimmy's and joe's guy than an x's and o's I'll say it's the most important part of building a program when you're an ASU or UofA. When you don't have the homefield advantage of USC and UCLA or the brand name of Oregon (and soon to be Washington again it looks like) for the most part you will be duking it out with MWC and the other Pac-10 programs for 3* crapshoot recruits. The difference between hitting on these players and missing is 4-8 and 9-3 which we all know is the difference between getting canned or getting a raise.

 

[Dback Jon]

It's Hauck, apparently

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11717447