LJ to the Bills?

[joeshmo]

He has as many question marks as the guys in the second round area.

Any player in the draft has a question mark on every aspect of their game becuase they havent played in the NFL yet.

The only Question marks on Henry is, has he gotten over his fumbling problem and can he keep up with his 4.0+ YPC pace.?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Personally, I do not want LJ to go as I think he will be awesome at RT this year and I don't see the Cards getting anyone better to play RT than him.

Why give up good players just because he's mad at Denny.

If we trade LJ are we then ready for another AC (the human turnstyle) at right tackle all year???

 

[cardsunsfan]

I don't care who he goes to, the more teams that want him, the more likely we get something. I do think most backs in the second are younger,cheaper and potentially better than Henry (who only has 1 year on his contract left). I'd rather take the pick.

Ok show me all the backs in the second round that ended up better than Henry has done so far in their first yrs.. Doubt you'll find that many... Draft picks are always a huge risk..why do people always seem to think draft picks are so much better than proven players?!

 

[BACH]

Ok show me all the backs in the second round that ended up better than Henry has done so far in their first yrs.. Doubt you'll find that many... Draft picks are always a huge risk..why do people always seem to think draft picks are so much better than proven players?!

Okay... Good RBs drafted in the 2nd round or later in the last 5 years:

Julius Jones
Chris Brown
Onterio Smith
Dominick Davis
Quentin Griffin
Clinton Portis
Brian Westbrooks
LaMont Jordan
Rudi Johnson
Derrick Blaylock
Reuben Droughns

 

[az1965]

No way we should trade for Henry without getting him to sign an extension with Bills first. He is an unrestricted FA after next year.

 

[az jam]

No way we should trade for Henry without getting him to sign an extension with Bills first. He is an unrestricted FA after next year.

A very good point and could be a possible trade breaker.

 

[ajcardfan]

Okay... Good RBs drafted in the 2nd round or later in the last 5 years:

Julius Jones
Chris Brown
Onterio Smith
Dominick Davis
Quentin Griffin
Clinton Portis
Brian Westbrooks
LaMont Jordan
Rudi Johnson
Derrick Blaylock
Reuben Droughns

Hmmm...

I wonder if there have been any bust RBs drafted in the second round and later in the last five years.

 

[CardinalChris]

Ok show me all the backs in the second round that ended up better than Henry has done so far in their first yrs.. Doubt you'll find that many... Draft picks are always a huge risk..why do people always seem to think draft picks are so much better than proven players?!

Including NFL personel people. Why do you think teams hate trading picks.... it is economical, not just talent. The cost for the first 4 years of a player's career are a lot less than the 4-6 million we will need to sign Henry after this year. That's more my issue.

I also feel comfortable that no pick we make in the second will be required to come in and touch the ball 400 times. We have Shipp and probably Hambrick, so they would end up coming in during situation where they excel. They don't need to carry the load.

 

[john h]

Tell me who we pick at #36 that's a slam dunk to be better than Henry.

No one is a slam dunk. You know what you are getting with Henry and you know what your are losing in Shelton.

 

[cdex99]

The only thing that makes me worry about Henry is that if he's not playing he's whining. Say he were to get injured and Shipp came in and got it done like he has in the past. The last thing I want to hear is someone is complaining that they're not playing.

 

[TheCardFan]

The only thing that makes me worry about Henry is that if he's not playing he's whining. Say he were to get injured and Shipp came in and got it done like he has in the past. The last thing I want to hear is someone is complaining that they're not playing.

I don't think this is true. He made a statement in regard to him being the starter at the beginning of the year (coming off of 2 very good years)...then lost his job during the year and was a team player and I haven't read or heard where he was a distraction in any way...and then at the end of the year said he didn't want to be a back-up and wanted to be traded.

He is young and proven...I don't think it is a negative at all.

 

[Reddog]

Seemes to me with all the draft depth at RB we should seek to fill a CB, LB, DL, OL or QB either via a player trade or trade for a pick. Given the leap from college to pro I think an NFL proven CB would be more valuable than the pick to get one. If we could get LB Johnson at 8 that would be better than any LB trade prospect. No one will give up a stud DLman in a trade and there are servicable OLman in FA and a couple that are worthy of a top 50 pick. A QB drafted is typically a project and nobody will trade a decent QB for Shelton.

All this to say that if we trade for a pick we should take Johnson at 8 and a RB at 44. If we trade for a player it should be for a solid CB. If we can land Lucas as a FA I would keep LJ because he is an affordable solution at RT and still take Johnson at 8 and a RB in the 2nd.

 

[seesred]

LT is one of the most important positions as you all know. I'm sure we will milk this for all it's worth. I would love to see us try to get Rivers for him. Shelton I believe i scheduled to make around 3+ mi If Bress is franchised it means Rivers sits and ties up good money. I would also like to see us explore the Vickings for Bennett. I'm not sure who gives you more bang for the buck but they are different backs.

I would also like to see us add a draft pick with a player trade. We will be picking up someone who is not going to start for them and giving up a starting o-line man and maybe a LT. You might see us hold out from pulling a deal till all cards are turned over.

GBR
40

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I don't think this is true. He made a statement in regard to him being the starter at the beginning of the year (coming off of 2 very good years)...then lost his job during the year and was a team player and I haven't read or heard where he was a distraction in any way...and then at the end of the year said he didn't want to be a back-up and wanted to be traded.

He is young and proven...I don't think it is a negative at all.

Judging by your off-season plans, It looks like we should change the team name to the Buffalzona Cardnills...

 

[Redsz]

A very good point and could be a possible trade breaker.

I don't think it will be much of an issue. When this story first came out Henry and his agent both said that they would be more than willing to sign a new deal with the team he is traded too.

Henry wouldn't have much leverage (sp?) to make us over pay for him.

 

[john h]

If we trade LJ are we then ready for another AC (the human turnstyle) at right tackle all year???

Good point. Not easy to fill this slot and we have no one who is really good to fill it. These OL slots usually require a guy with some experience to be effective so do not expect some guy fresh out of the draft to be very effective his first year. There is always a price to be paid. L.J is a good player and some forget it and some do not believe it. I think there are more good RB's than there are LT's. You often can take a good RB right out of the draft and he is ready to start in the NFL. This does not happen very often with OL.

 

[john h]

Hmmm...

I wonder if there have been any bust RBs drafted in the second round and later in the last five years.

One thing about RB's coming out in the draft they are usually ready to start from day one as experience does not count for much with a RB. Few OL are ready to go from day one as they need a lot of experience to be effective.

 

[john h]

LT is one of the most important positions as you all know. I'm sure we will milk this for all it's worth. I would love to see us try to get Rivers for him. Shelton I believe i scheduled to make around 3+ mi If Bress is franchised it means Rivers sits and ties up good money. I would also like to see us explore the Vickings for Bennett. I'm not sure who gives you more bang for the buck but they are different backs.

I would also like to see us add a draft pick with a player trade. We will be picking up someone who is not going to start for them and giving up a starting o-line man and maybe a LT. You might see us hold out from pulling a deal till all cards are turned over.

GBR
40

You would have a better chance getting Rivers for Bolden as San Diego needs a WR and may take one in the first round.