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I know all we’ve been hearing is how deep this draft is in defense. Our biggest deficiency on this team is an offense so inept that it affected every other phase of this team. We had a game that we didn’t cross the 50 yard line for god sakes. The defense was put in a position where they needed to make a stop just about every series of downs and when they did their job they were back on the field in 3 plays. Half the time the opposing team was starting on the 50 yd.line. We need playmakers on offense. Please don’t tell me Chad Williams , Charles Clay, and Kevin White are going to blossom into the teams saviors. Keep Rosen. Trade down. Get a solid te, o-lineman and a “ take the lid off” wr. Murray or Rosen with this current roster will fail. We have the waiver wire to bulk up on the defensive side. Load up on playmakers and let’s score points. That alone will help the defense improve.
 

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In an other year, sure, perhaps... but, this draft is singularly deep in D-talent. We've added 3 lineman and a TE to our "0" mix and, yes, we should expect improvement from our 2nd and 3rd year pass catching options. If there's a potential stud that slips to 33, then we should pounce, but, short of that: load up on "D".
 

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Cards have 19 Offensive linemen already on the roster
Humphries,Gilbert,Pugh,Cole,Shipley,Vujonvich,Holden,Gossett,Garcia,Cunningham,Wetzel,Sweezy,Olhambio have starting experience of varying degrees
House,Evans,Golditch,Coleman,Lauderdale,Poutasi round out whats on hand right now.
I would be surprised if SK picked more than 1 OLINE guy this draft.

DLINE is very thin.
Peters,Malveaux,Philon,Gunter,Valentine,Tasoni.NKemdiche

TE-very very thin
Clay,Seals-Jones,Daniels

DLiNE and TE and quality WR are big need areas.
 
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Cards have 19 Offensive linemen already on the roster
Humphries,Gilbert,Pugh,Cole,Shipley,Vujonvich,Holden,Gossett,Garcia,Cunningham,Wetzel,Sweezy,Olhambio have starting experience of varying degrees
House,Evans,Golditch,Coleman,Lauderdale,Poutasi round out whats on hand right now.
I would be surprised if SK picked more than 1 OLINE guy this draft.

DLINE is very thin.
Peters,Malveaux,Philon,Gunter,Valentine,Tasoni.NKemdiche

TE-very very thin
Clay,Seals-Jones,Daniels

DLiNE and TE and quality WR are big need areas.
You talked me into it. Replace o-line suggestion to TE, Wr and d-line.
 

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Latest mock draft that I would love to become reality...

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Not a bad.I wouldn`t pick a safety or RB though.I would have went for a John Cominsky DE-DT from Charleton-in the 4th.A developing young DE-DT player with good athletic skills.
For pick 249 I would have gone for a LB/backup/ST guy -Ryan Connelly Wisconsin or Cole Holcomb North Carolina LB.
Still nice job
 

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You talked me into it. Replace o-line suggestion to TE, Wr and d-line.


But, you do make a good point.

I think the Cardinals are EXTREMELY foolish to not draft at least two receivers in this draft. #33, and #65 has to be a wide receiver. It would not be a "reach" to pick a receiver at one of the two spots. There are plenty that will be in that range, and available.

The 5th, 6th and 7th rounds should be filled with linebackers, receivers and interior linemen. As much as I would like the Cardinals to draft a cornerback in this draft, I think there is a chance that will not happen. There is a group of big bodied cornerbacks in this draft, that I would love to see the Cardinals draft, but I think the better ones will be gone by #65, and the talent at wide receiver will still be there at that point.

Unless Greedy Williams, or Baker fall to #33, I do not think a cornerback will be ......in the cards this year.
 

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Cards have 19 Offensive linemen already on the roster
Humphries,Gilbert,Pugh,Cole,Shipley,Vujonvich,Holden,Gossett,Garcia,Cunningham,Wetzel,Sweezy,Olhambio have starting experience of varying degrees
House,Evans,Golditch,Coleman,Lauderdale,Poutasi round out whats on hand right now.
I would be surprised if SK picked more than 1 OLINE guy this draft.

DLINE is very thin.
Peters,Malveaux,Philon,Gunter,Valentine,Tasoni.NKemdiche

TE-very very thin
Clay,Seals-Jones,Daniels

DLiNE and TE and quality WR are big need areas.

Agree on online. I believe the top 8 are already:

Humphries, Pugh, Shipley/Cole, Sweezy, Gilbert

Depth is set at Shipley/Cole, Garcia, Cunningham

If we get a trade back I expect to see a tackle, otherwise 3rd - 4th round
 

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But, you do make a good point.

I think the Cardinals are EXTREMELY foolish to not draft at least two receivers in this draft. #33, and #65 has to be a wide receiver. It would not be a "reach" to pick a receiver at one of the two spots. There are plenty that will be in that range, and available.

The 5th, 6th and 7th rounds should be filled with linebackers, receivers and interior linemen. As much as I would like the Cardinals to draft a cornerback in this draft, I think there is a chance that will not happen. There is a group of big bodied cornerbacks in this draft, that I would love to see the Cardinals draft, but I think the better ones will be gone by #65, and the talent at wide receiver will still be there at that point.

Unless Greedy Williams, or Baker fall to #33, I do not think a cornerback will be ......in the cards this year.
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Well, if this draft is so good defensively, then they must have been measured by a good offensive class to arrive at this... so everyone goes after the 'elite' defense and we clean up on the great offensive players :)
 

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I reckon you need to pick what is deepest for each draft and not for need necessarily. For example if you had the 20th pick and the best CB for that draft is still there but in the year before or after he would be rated say the 5th best CB then I wouldn't like the pick. If that makes sense??

This year its all about DL and WR with a few TEs and OGs
 

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But, you do make a good point.

I think the Cardinals are EXTREMELY foolish to not draft at least two receivers in this draft. #33, and #65 has to be a wide receiver. It would not be a "reach" to pick a receiver at one of the two spots. There are plenty that will be in that range, and available.

The 5th, 6th and 7th rounds should be filled with linebackers, receivers and interior linemen. As much as I would like the Cardinals to draft a cornerback in this draft, I think there is a chance that will not happen. There is a group of big bodied cornerbacks in this draft, that I would love to see the Cardinals draft, but I think the better ones will be gone by #65, and the talent at wide receiver will still be there at that point.

Unless Greedy Williams, or Baker fall to #33, I do not think a cornerback will be ......in the cards this year.

Noticing the CBs the Cards have met with at one time or the other
Corey Ballentine (washburn)5`11 196 4.46 speed 6-7 round
Derrek Thomas (Baylor)6`3 196 7rd/udfa
Kris Boyd (Texas)5`11 201 4.45 speed 4/5 rd
tim Harris (Virginia) 6`1 205 7rd/udfa

seems like any CBs will be very late rounders or UDFA guys from looking a the list AZ has seen so far.
 

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In one of the deepest defensive drafts, you can make a very strong argument that the Cardinals should go ALL offense. It is a deep WR draft, you can take two good ones and have them both be after the 3rd round. TE is super deep. We need them. Offensive line, we have holes all over.

You can have a draft that is
Kyler Murray - QB
Erik McCoy - C
Tytus Howard - OT
Dawson Knox - TE
KeeSean Johnson - WR

and be happy.

Another option would be...
Kyle Murray - QB
Cody Ford/Dalton Risner - OG/OT
Jace Sternberger - TE
Miles Boykin - WR

I will say that there are a couple of holding spots depending on who you take where.

1-I have a tough time seeing the Cardinals drafting a C that is not Garrett Bradbury or Erik McCoy. I just don't believe there are any other players who would be an upgrade over Mason Cole. So that means no C's drafted after round 2.

2-If you want a ready-made LT, you are going to probably need to get one in round 1. We don't look to have that option, so, if you want a developmental guy, look for rounds 3-5.

3-Targeting a RT, round 2 is a really good spot to get a RT who is a RG if he fails option. Risner or Ford could be available in round 2 and you have a bunch of options in round 3 as well. Past that, you are probably looking much later in the draft.

4-WR or TE. The argument here is if you think the top end of the TE position is higher than the top end of the WR position (which I believe is true) because both spots are deep. From my perspective it makes more sense to prioritize TE in rounds 2 - 4 OVER WRs because, IMO, the WRs are far more limited in what they offer. The WRs are EITHER fast, big, or unpolished, but few provide anything more than only one of those traits.
 

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Minski, you do realize, with your picks, you don't have a QB. Just hope you're not expecting Hundley to do the job. You might want a do-over.
 

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I believe they will be light on offense this year...minus the possibilities of Murray and a receiver or two .. then load up on that dline.
 

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Cards have 19 Offensive linemen already on the roster
Humphries,Gilbert,Pugh,Cole,Shipley,Vujonvich,Holden,Gossett,Garcia,Cunningham,Wetzel,Sweezy,Olhambio have starting experience of varying degrees
House,Evans,Golditch,Coleman,Lauderdale,Poutasi round out whats on hand right now.
I would be surprised if SK picked more than 1 OLINE guy this draft.

DLINE is very thin.
Peters,Malveaux,Philon,Gunter,Valentine,Tasoni.NKemdiche

TE-very very thin
Clay,Seals-Jones,Daniels

DLiNE and TE and quality WR are big need areas.

Wetzel moved on...
 

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I believe they will be light on offense this year...minus the possibilities of Murray and a receiver or two .. then load up on that dline.
If they do this, Murray will struggle. He needs more weapons and help on the offensive line.
 

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If they do this, Murray will struggle. He needs more weapons and help on the offensive line.
Imo.. I just don't think this is the route they will go is all. They found alot of vet free agent olinemen that I think they want to start. Keim also mentioned with enthusiasm that this was a deep dline draft that could get him pretty excited about loading up on d. But I do believe they will grab a couple young stud wide outs. That seems to be the only sure thing right now. Imo
 

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If they do this, Murray will struggle. He needs more weapons and help on the offensive line.

Remember when you thought Greg Little and Brice Butler were going to make the team? You thought they were no-brainers?

Last year's offseason was a total disaster. I can't believe the Cards are excited about where the passing game is right now. I think we'll pick up someone in the draft and get some vet like Jermaine Kearse or Michael Crabtree once the draft is over and there's no comp pick penalty for signing guys.
 

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Murray at 1
TE at 17 (rosen trade)
33 trade back and get picks (likely a 2 and a 3) - take O lineman
take one more o lineman
remaining picks - Call Mike Mayock and ask him

The entire O line is poo right now. Murray can run, but he needs better than what's there. Cards may have 19 o lineman on the roster, but not one is a starting caliber guy...not one (maybe Sweezy who they just got) and (DJ is serviceable)
 

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Murray at 1
TE at 17 (rosen trade)
33 trade back and get picks (likely a 2 and a 3) - take O lineman
take one more o lineman
remaining picks - Call Mike Mayock and ask him

The entire O line is poo right now. Murray can run, but he needs better than what's there. Cards may have 19 o lineman on the roster, but not one is a starting caliber guy...not one (maybe Sweezy who they just got) and (DJ is serviceable)

That would quite literally the worst draft scenario ever for me
 

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I know all we’ve been hearing is how deep this draft is in defense. Our biggest deficiency on this team is an offense so inept that it affected every other phase of this team. We had a game that we didn’t cross the 50 yard line for god sakes. The defense was put in a position where they needed to make a stop just about every series of downs and when they did their job they were back on the field in 3 plays. Half the time the opposing team was starting on the 50 yd.line. We need playmakers on offense. Please don’t tell me Chad Williams , Charles Clay, and Kevin White are going to blossom into the teams saviors. Keep Rosen. Trade down. Get a solid te, o-lineman and a “ take the lid off” wr. Murray or Rosen with this current roster will fail. We have the waiver wire to bulk up on the defensive side. Load up on playmakers and let’s score points. That alone will help the defense improve.
I feel the same way, we've added enough pieces on the defense already to be competitive at the very least & they can still add a few more. The offense needs more, a lot more. WR's & OL. Score points & win some 45-38 games, outscore teams & make it exciting again for us fans. My belief is having a high scoring offense with a blitzing/attacking defense we can win some games & be very competitive again.
 
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