Lon Babby Press Conference July 11th

[SweetD]

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/2012/07/11/20120711LonPCwmv-2153589

 

[SunsTzu]

I like the way Babby conducts himself and what he's saying, I'm just skeptical of the moves the team has made. Hopefully whatever plan he and the FO is working on pans out.

 

[mojorizen7]

Mojo


Why did it take the Suns 2 years to realize what i've been bitching about for 3 years?

Cheers to moving forward,anyway.

Thx for posting btw SweetD.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

I like the way Babby conducts himself and what he's saying, I'm just skeptical of the moves the team has made. Hopefully whatever plan he and the FO is working on pans out.

Im starting to like him more and more as well. The moves he made last offseason though are totally rediculous. So far i like their thought process and direction this offseason though

 

[SunsTzu]

Im starting to like him more and more as well. The moves he made last offseason though are totally rediculous. So far i like their thought process and direction this offseason though

That's odd I liked how the managed last offseason.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

That's odd I liked how the managed last offseason.

Whats with the sarcasm? I take it the wife hasnt been puttin out lately?

 

[SunsTzu]

Whats with the sarcasm? I take it the wife hasnt been puttin out lately?

I wasn't being sarcastic but I appreciate the personal comment.


Stay classy(sarcasm).

 

[carey]

That's odd I liked how the managed last offseason.

I agree, though maybe not as strongly.

• He drafted Morris, but I wanted Leonard or Faried.
• He signed Shannon Brown for a one year deal. I had fairly high hopes for that signing.
• He signed Ronnie Price for a one year deal.
• He signed Sebastian Telfair for a 2 year deal, with partially guaranteed 2nd year. I was a little surprised by this one, but it was a low cost, low risk move.
• He signed Michael Redd to a one year, veterans minimum deal. A nother low risk, but potentially high reward move.
• Resigned Grant Hill to a one year deal. I still think we needed him back last year.
• Waived Pietrus. He had to go.

What's to hate in there?

 

[Phrazbit]

I agree, though maybe not as strongly.

• He drafted Morris, but I wanted Leonard or Faried.
• He signed Shannon Brown for a one year deal. I had fairly high hopes for that signing.
• He signed Ronnie Price for a one year deal.
• He signed Sebastian Telfair for a 2 year deal, with partially guaranteed 2nd year. I was a little surprised by this one, but it was a low cost, low risk move.
• He signed Michael Redd to a one year, veterans minimum deal. A nother low risk, but potentially high reward move.
• Resigned Grant Hill to a one year deal. I still think we needed him back last year.
• Waived Pietrus. He had to go.

What's to hate in there?

Yep. Agree across the board. Only move that really bothered me last year was drafting Morris. I really wanted Faried, and just on principle I really didnt want to draft another twin brother.

I would have LOVED if they had blown up the team last offseason but I would assume Babby didnt have that kind of discretion from Sarver while Nash still had a year left on his deal,

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yep. Agree across the board. Only move that really bothered me last year was drafting Morris. I really wanted Faried, and just on principle I really didnt want to draft another twin brother.

I would have LOVED if they had blown up the team last offseason but I would assume Babby didnt have that kind of discretion from Sarver while Nash still had a year left on his deal,

agreed.

 

[SweetD]

I found this intresting also and with Warrick/Childress there might be some wiggle room to redue contracts.

Can existing contracts be renegotiated?
A contract for four or more seasons can be renegotiated after the third anniversary of its signing, extension, or previous renegotiation (if the previous negotiation increased any season's salary by more than 4.5%). Contracts for fewer than four seasons cannot be renegotiated. A contract cannot be renegotiated between March 1 and June 30 of any year.
Only teams under the cap can renegotiate a contract, and the salary in the then-current season can be increased only to the extent that the team has room under the cap (and cannot increase the player's salary beyond the maximum salary). A renegotiation can only be used to provide a salary increase -- players can't take a "pay cut" in order to create more cap room for the team.

 

[SunsTzu]

I found this intresting also and with Warrick/Childress there might be some wiggle room to redue contracts.

It has only been 2 years since they were signed so they don't qualify and contracts can only increase in value so there really isn't any wiggle room to work with.

 

[elindholm]

I found this intresting also and with Warrick/Childress there might be some wiggle room to redue contracts.

Did you even read it? This provision clearly can't help the Suns with Warrick or Childress.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

I wasn't being sarcastic but I appreciate the personal comment.


Stay classy(sarcasm).

If you werent then i apologize haha. I just figured there wasnt a suns fan out there that agreed with last years moves: childress, warrick, *****, dragic trade, mediocrity, blah blah blah

 

[SunsTzu]

If you werent then i apologize haha. I just figured there wasnt a suns fan out there that agreed with last years moves: childress, warrick, *****, dragic trade, mediocrity, blah blah blah

Childress, Warrick and the Dragic trade were all done during the 2010-2011 offseason/season. There were players I preferred to Morris, but I was mainly talking about the signings they made. They didn't sign any long term contracts last offseason in desperation to try and ensure a low playoff seed. They signed low risk 1 year deals to maximize cap space. Sure they were a year late, but I was judging 2011 offseason at face value and not saddling it with the shortsighted 2010 offseason.

 

[carey]

Did you even read it? This provision clearly can't help the Suns with Warrick or Childress.

You know what can work though? The stretch provision. I think Warrick is a big time candidate for it if they do not envision using it as an expiring.

 

[Griffin]

You know what can work though? The stretch provision. I think Warrick is a big time candidate for it if they do not envision using it as an expiring.

Stretch provision cannot be applied to contracts signed under the old CBA.

The only thing the Suns can do to get rid of Warrick's salary for this season is to either trade him without receiving any salary back in return or to amnesty him. That would create an extra $4.25M of cap space this season. Amnestying Childress would create more cap space over longer period of time, but I doubt the Suns are willing to pay $21M over three years to a player not on the roster.

Most likely candidates for the stretch provision will be the questionable signings the Suns make this summer.

 

[Joe Mama]

Stretch provision cannot be applied to contracts signed under the old CBA.

The only thing the Suns can do to get rid of Warrick's salary for this season is to either trade him without receiving any salary back in return or to amnesty him. That would create an extra $4.25M of cap space this season. Amnestying Childress would create more cap space over longer period of time, but I doubt the Suns are willing to pay $21M over three years to a player not on the roster.

Most likely candidates for the stretch provision will be the questionable signings the Suns make this summer.

questionable signings they've made this summer? I don't know what you are talking about.

Joe

 

[Griffin]

questionable signings they've made this summer? I don't know what you are talking about.

Joe

Dragic, Beasley and Mayo, should he be signed. All three have the potential to become really bad contracts if these players don't perform as expected. All three come with major questions given their history.

 

[Joe Mama]

Dragic, Beasley and Mayo, should he be signed. All three have the potential to become really bad contracts if these players don't perform as expected. All three come with major questions given their history.

I should have noted my sarcasm. I agree. I don't like these signings. It's not just that they have the potential really bad contracts. That could probably be said about most contracts in the NBA. From my perspective the chances these become burdensome contracts are greater than the chances they have positive value in a year or two. It will be fun to watch them develop as there is some significant upside. I just don't think this is what we should have done this summer. I think we are going to end up with a draft pick in the 6-12 range and no flexibility under the salary cap.

Joe