Long DWash suspension?

[Jetstream Green]

We know nothing yet, let's see what will happen

 

[ajcardfan]

We know nothing yet, let's see what will happen

Sure we do. We know he is trouble and is going to be punished. And, we know it's his fault.

 

[Shane]

And, we know it's his fault.

That's an assumption

But though this has been debated to it's end in he other thread.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Sure we do. We know he is trouble and is going to be punished. And, we know it's his fault.

I'm not talking about whether he will be suspended or not silly rabbit, I'm talking about how long he will be suspended because it is coming lol

 

[Jetstream Green]

Call me crazy but one would have to assume that the Cards FO had or have some kind of idea of the punishment being doled out... They also have to be damn confident DW has turned a corner in his life or maturity level.

Otherwise there is no way they bother to pick up his 10 million dollar bonus option. Just a month or 2 ago.

JMO

You're not crazy and I'm sure they have an idea but I happen to think Washington is one of the best LBs in the game and an elite guy which can change a game as many here including yourself I think believe... for a guy like that who is as young as he is, the Cards will roll dice I think even under this present scenario in my opinion. Now if he got bust selling heroin or shot someone, then the Cardinals might think differently... maybe lol

 

[TJ]

When I posted the NFLPA agreement when he got arrested last summer, once he reaches the spot he is at, there is no difference in any of the violations. Drugs, a criminal case... it's all treated the same.





He will be out eight games MINIMUM. The entire season is not out of the question.

Nothing in your NFLPA documentation indicates length of suspension in this particular case.

There's no way in hell he gets 8 games.

 

[ajcardfan]

That's an assumption

But though this has been debated to it's end in he other thread.

Um, it's no longer an assumption when he has plead guilty. If he is truly innocent, that was a really dumb move he made.

 

[ajcardfan]

Nothing in your NFLPA documentation indicates length of suspension in this particular case.

There's no way in hell he gets 8 games.

I think it's BAD for Washington that nothing is in black and white and it's up to Goddell's discretion.

I have had a bad feeling about this since the very first day it happened.

The move of signing Foote Was another bad sign IMO. To me, that reeked of the Cards knowing he will be out for more than a game or two.

Obviously, I hope you are right. I really don't want to be right in this situation.

 

[TJ]

I think it's BAD for Washington that nothing is in black and white and it's up to Goddell's discretion.



I have had a bad feeling about this since the very first day it happened.



The move of signing Foote Was another bad sign IMO. To me, that reeked of the Cards knowing he will be out for more than a game or two.



Obviously, I hope you are right. I really don't want to be right in this situation.

The Foote signing was more a product of the lack of depth at ILB overall than anything. It's just compounded by the looming D-Wash suspension.

 

[Shane]

Um, it's no longer an assumption when he has plead guilty. If he is truly innocent, that was a really dumb move he made.

Pleading guilty doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the criminal world on many occasions. All it means is that he chose the path of least resistance. That's the problem with scenarios of he said she said. I can't and don't want to walk in his shoes. But sometimes the deal offered is just the way to go when there really is no way to prove ones side of the story to anothers. Especially with a guaranteed bleeding heart jury if you go to trial.

I get he's now "guilty" but doesn't necessarily mean he's the devil you all think. I have to much experience in domestic cases and women can be scandalous, violent and downright mean!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I get he's now "guilty" but doesn't necessarily mean he's the devil you all think. I have to much experience in domestic cases and women can be scandalous!

It would be scandalous if she broke her own collarbone.

 

[Shane]

It would be scandalous if she broke her own collarbone.

Once again doesn't make him a monster. She per the report iirc was attacking him and going after him as he's trying to leave. He shoves her off to get away and she falls breaking her collarbone..... In this scenario not a monster imo. Not saying that's exact or not but highly feasible. Your caught up on the collar bone. Good for you! :golfclap:

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Once again doesn't make him a monster. She per the report iirc was attacking him and going after him as he's trying to leave. He shoves her off to get away and she falls breaking her collarbone..... In this scenario not a monster imo. Not saying that's exact or not but highly feasible. Your caught up on the collar bone. Good for you! :golfclap:

You forgot the part where choking her was part of "shoving her away." I get that you've seen some crazy things, but try to stick to the facts of the case.

 

[unseenaz]

Wasn't he already punished for this? How is this not
Double jeopardy

 

[Shane]

You forgot the part where choking her was part of "shoving her away." I get that you've seen some crazy things, but try to stick to the facts of the case.

You know that as a fact how? Because it was claimed by her and in a report? Now we get back to the scandalous part

 

[ajcardfan]

Wasn't he already punished for this? How is this not
Double jeopardy

His suspension last year was for failing a drug test. Which we now know he had to have failed at least one or two more tests before that.

That's why I think Goddell is going to send a message. He was suspended for drugs on April 3rd, and he was arrested for the DV situation on May 3rd.

 

[NJCardFan]

Pleading guilty doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the criminal world on many occasions. All it means is that he chose the path of least resistance.

That's what a no contest plea is for.

Call me crazy but one would have to assume that the Cards FO had or have some kind of idea of the punishment being doled out... They also have to be damn confident DW has turned a corner in his life or maturity level.

Otherwise there is no way they bother to pick up his 10 million dollar bonus option. Just a month or 2 ago.

JMO

Which makes their not drafting a LB a head scratcher as well as not re-signing Dansby or someone other than Foote.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Wasn't he already punished for this? How is this not
Double jeopardy

Depending on your line of work - if you commit certain offenses your employer can suspend or even fire you. Not any kind of double jeopardy at all.

In the case of the NFL - anything you do that embarrasses the league may get you fined or suspended. Getting caught doing drugs or breaking your baby mama's collarbone will definitely get you suspended.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You know that as a fact how? Because it was claimed by her and in a report? Now we get back to the scandalous part

Police report. I guess they are in on it too. Poor DWash.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

You forgot the part where choking her was part of "shoving her away." I get that you've seen some crazy things, but try to stick to the facts of the case.

The point of it being he said she said means that only DWash and the female involved actually know the "facts" of the case. Also if we are going to talk about these so called "facts" than I would point out that all the reports that I have read stated that he "had his hand on her neck almost choking her".

 

[Cheesebeef]

His suspension last year was for failing a drug test. Which we now know he had to have failed at least one or two more tests before that.

That's why I think Goddell is going to send a message. He was suspended for drugs on April 3rd, and he was arrested for the DV situation on May 3rd.

which means this didn't just happen all at once. players gets suspended well after the drug tests, and he got busted twice...which means for probably at least a year, he was doing REALLY stupid crap repeatedly...and then even after he got officially suspended, he went full ****** and broke a woman's collarbone. that's bad news and I think his suspension will reflect that.

 

[ajcardfan]

You know that as a fact how? Because it was claimed by her and in a report? Now we get back to the scandalous part

She had marks on her neck.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22158514/2013/05/03/daryl-washington-booked-makes-bond

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Police report. I guess they are in on it too. Poor DWash.

A police report isn't based on facts unless they were there to see the whole thing go down, otherwise they take their report based on what the 2 parties involved report to them.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

which means this didn't just happen all at once. players gets suspended well after the drug tests, and he got busted twice...which means for probably at least a year, he was doing REALLY stupid crap repeatedly...and then even after he got officially suspended, he went full ****** and broke a woman's collarbone. that's bad news and I think his suspension will reflect that.

Exactly. Not like this guy was a saint that had a bad day.

When police spoke to the couple they found that they had been in previous altercations which were not reported to the police. Highly likely this was not the first time he laid his hands on a woman. This was likely an escalation of previous incidents.

 

[ajcardfan]

A police report isn't based on facts unless they were there to see the whole thing go down, otherwise they take their report based on what the 2 parties involved report to them.

They had facts like a broken collarbone and bruises on her neck. So, him getting arrested in the first place was justified. I don't think the cops were so bored with their day that they decided to just make up crap to put in the report.