Looks Like Frye is the Starting Center

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I am a bit more relieved now. Sounds as if Amare will not be our starting center. Sounds like it was a two horse race between Frye and Lopez with Frye winning the race.

Also, sounds like the Suns are in fact down on Lopez. I think maybe they are seeing what everybody else had seen before they even drafted the guy. He will never start on the NBA for a good team IMO. Mark it down now that if the Suns get a chance to bring in another center or draft a young one.....Lopez won't be here anymore IMO.

One other thing to note is that Gentry said they are going back to run and gun but he is going to "demand" more on the defensive end. My first response is "yeah right". My second response is at least by thinking it at least he appears to want to try and not make the same mistake D'Antoni did between his defensive comment and not starting Amare at center.

Also, this seems to just another confirmation that D'Antoni was never demanding when it came to defense.

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Frye atop Suns’ depth chart, other notes

September 28th, 2009, 2:05 pm · Post a Comment · posted by Scott Bordow

Just returned to the office from Suns Media Day and thought I’d pass along a few notes:

The most interesting news was coach Alvin Gentry saying that if the season started today Channing Frye would be the starting center rather than Robin Lopez.

The Suns think Frye’s outside shooting touch will help open the floor for Amare Stoudemire, who will have more freedom to play in the lane with Shaquille O’Neal gone.

Does that mean the Suns are down on Lopez? They say they aren’t, but think about it. The team’s needs on the interior — defense and rebounding — are supposed to be Lopez’s strengths, yet Frye likely will start at center.

The Suns are going back to the run-and-gun style that defined them under Mike D’Antoni, but Gentry insisted, “We’re going to be a little more demanding defensively.”

“We don’t have to be Cleveland or San Antonio because we are good offensively,” he said. “But we have to be more consistent.”

Hmmm. Seems like we’ve heard that before.

One interesting note is that Gentry has made Stoudemire a tri-captain along with Steve Nash and Grant Hill. The Suns want Stoudemire to grow up and take some responsibility for how the team is playing, and they’re hoping being named a captain will nudge him in that direction.

Finally, general manager Steve Kerr said he never considered resigning despite suffering through “by far” the worst season of his professional life. Kerr was barbecued for some of his moves and fired his good friend, Terry Porter, after just 51 games.

“It was difficult,” Kerr said … “I definitely deserve a lot of the blame. But part of the job is accepting that and moving forward.”
 

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I have not heard much about Lopez making any progress so it doesn't surprise me that Frye will be the starting center. Of the players the Suns drafted and kept it is not pretty: Strawberry, Tucker, Lopez and Griffin... here is hoping Clark is a keeper. The Suns do not know how to evaluate and draft NBA talent. It's likely as the season progresses Amare will end up as the starting center after the Suns FO have paid homage to their mistake in drafting Lopez and giving a role playing FA (Frye) a try at center. Actually the Suns season may well rest upon Frye being able to play center so I'm hoping he can find a niche with the Suns.
 

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Interesting that they named Amare a captain. A move like that signals to me that they will end up re-signing him assuming he comes back 100% from his injury.
 

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Interesting that they named Amare a captain. A move like that signals to me that they will end up re-signing him assuming he comes back 100% from his injury.
Wasn't Amare already a co-captain a few seasons back before getting "demoted"?

Anyway, in Amare's own words (from late last season):

"I’m not a captain so you can’t place too much of the blame on me. It’s not my job to rally the troops and get everybody on board. It’s the captain’s job to do that.”

I guess he can't use that as an excuse anymore.
 
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Wasn't Amare already a co-captain a few seasons back before getting "demoted"?

Anyway, in Amare's own words (from late last season):

"I’m not a captain so you can’t place too much of the blame on me. It’s not my job to rally the troops and get everybody on board. It’s the captain’s job to do that.”

I guess he can't use that as an excuse anymore.

Amen. It was like a little kid pouting in the corner when he said that. I don't want to hear anything about him not leading by example this season.
 

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^yup^

Now Amare doesnt have to stretch out his hand as far when assigning blame.


And if anyone thought Lopez was going to be starting you were fooling yourself. Once Frye was signed he was in the starting lineup.
 

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I think Frye is going to help the Suns more than many of you think. He is a better option than Lopez.
 

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Let's trade Lopez and Tucker to Nets for Boone and Williams + a future 1st!
 

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Anyone have an idea when the Suns have an option not to renew Lopez' contract?
 

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Anyone have an idea when the Suns have an option not to renew Lopez' contract?

I think the way it works is that the team decides on the third-year option after one season, and then decides on the fourth-year option after the second season. I would assume that the Suns have at least picked up the third-year option by now (it's pretty much automatic), but they may decline the fourth-year. I believe they are going to decline the fourth-year on Tucker.
 

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Amare believes that his being named "captain" means he's allowed to argue with the refs more.
 

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1. Nash, Dragic
2. Richardson, Barbs, Tucker
3. Hill, Dudley, Griffin
4. Stoudemire, Amundson, Clark
5. Frye, Lopez

After the initial starting line-up positions, will be irrelevant. I imagine we will see a lot of movement of positions 2-5 depending who is on the floor. The only ones set in stone are Nash and Lopez at 1 and 5 respectively.

Frye and Clark are going to be the players who interest me the most this season.
 
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More than likely, Amundson will be playing backup C behind Frye and Lopez will be on the end of the bench next to Tucker & Taylor Griffin (if he's not in the D-League). Clark & Dudley will be splitting the backup SF & PF minutes with Richardson playing some SF when we go smallball.
 
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1. Nash, Dragic
2. Richardson, Barbs, Tucker
3. Hill, Dudley, Griffin
4. Stoudemire, Amundson, Clark
5. Frye, Lopez

After the initial starting line-up positions, will be irrelevant. I imagine we will see a lot of movement of positions 2-5 depending who is on the floor. The only ones set in stone are Nash and Lopez at 1 and 5 respectively.

Frye and Clark are going to be the players who interest me the most this season.

I agree. There will be much switching around out of position. I think Tucker, Griffin, and Lopez might have a hard time getting on the court.

The X-factor is Clark. If Clark produces he will get playing time I think. Same with Dragic. If 2 of those guys step up, some of those others are going to have a very hard time getting playing time.
 

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I think the way it works is that the team decides on the third-year option after one season, and then decides on the fourth-year option after the second season. I would assume that the Suns have at least picked up the third-year option by now (it's pretty much automatic), but they may decline the fourth-year. I believe they are going to decline the fourth-year on Tucker.

That is correct:

"Teams have until the October 31 preceding the player's second season to exercise their option for the player's third season. Likewise, they have until the October 31 preceding the player's third season to exercise their option for the player's fourth season."

-Larry Coon's Salary Cap FAQ
 
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I think the way it works is that the team decides on the third-year option after one season, and then decides on the fourth-year option after the second season. I would assume that the Suns have at least picked up the third-year option by now (it's pretty much automatic), but they may decline the fourth-year. I believe they are going to decline the fourth-year on Tucker.

You think Lopez is probably already gone or you think it will take another signing or drafting of a FC player?
 

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You think Lopez is probably already gone or you think it will take another signing or drafting of a FC player?

Lopez is automatically on the books for this season (it's only his second), and most likely already guaranteed for 2010-11 as well, although I don't think I've read an announcement.
 
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Lopez is automatically on the books for this season (it's only his second), and most likely already guaranteed for 2010-11 as well, although I don't think I've read an announcement.

Sorry I meant after the option is done.
 

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1. Nash, Dragic
2. Richardson, Barbs, Tucker
3. Hill, Dudley, Griffin
4. Stoudemire, Amundson, Clark
5. Frye, Lopez

After the initial starting line-up positions, will be irrelevant. I imagine we will see a lot of movement of positions 2-5 depending who is on the floor. The only ones set in stone are Nash and Lopez at 1 and 5 respectively.

Frye and Clark are going to be the players who interest me the most this season.

I really believe Clark will be ahead of Dudley and Amundson on the depth chart for both positions.
 
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I really believe Clark will be ahead of Dudley and Amundson on the depth chart for both positions.

Supposedly Dudley is looking good. They are going to have to find a way to get him on the court. My guess is that if Clark really comes on, it might be Amundson who is the odd man out unless Frye or Amare are having a really bad game or are in foul trouble.
 

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Well if we're going back to run & gun & playing undersized then we'll probably be in foul trouble most nights as teams try to pound the ball into the paint... so Amundson will probably still get playing time @ center. Plus he's a hustling rebound guy so that should keep him on the floor as long as he can make the outlet pass to get the offense running.

Dudley looked good last year so if he's improved then he'll be a big part of our team this year... he'd be my 2nd guy off the bench after LB. There were games in the 2nd half of last year when the 2nd unit was outplaying the starters and they obviously played better defense. Clark is supposed to be a good defender too so our 2nd unit might be even better this year... even if the starters are worse.
 
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Lou/Duds/Dragic would make a hardcore defensive unit to put pressure on the other team. If two of young legs Clark/JR/LB fill in with more scoring power without lowering the def. pressure, we'd have a great bench play to save energy on the vets Nash/Amare/Hill for endgame situations.
 

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