Lott wants Porter to lose 15 pounds and get to 240!

[Mulli]

Porter is nowhere near fat even at 255.

So what. Fatty McPeez is his new nickname.

 

[earthsci]

Fatty McPeez is his new nickname.

Sweet. Time for a new avatar.

 

[Mulli]

Sweet. Time for a new avatar.

YES!!!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Harrison is listed on nfl.com as 6.0. Porter is 6.3 that's a big difference in how the weight is going to be distributed.

Dansby is 6.4 250. Look how much bulkier Harrison looks on the field than Dansby. Same thing with Dockett (6.4) and Campbell (6.8) who are both listed at 285-290.

I think 240 is too light for a 6.3 OLB but then if Lott's in favor of it I am too.

Gotcha.

So, I am crazy, and completely wrong. There is no way an OLB should be 240lbs. and the 3 inches makes all the difference.

But, you agree that Porter being 240 lbs next season will be fine.

Thanks, I am glad to shake up my logic, and realize that I have no idea what I am talking about, and unless I know what I am talking about.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Exactly. There is a huge difference in how weight is distributed on 3 inches of body frame. How anyone wouldn't be concerned about the loss in strength is beyond me.

Then the issue is beyond you.



I am being told that 240lbs is too light for OLB, yet there are successful ones out there.

I am being told that because he is 3 inches taller, he cannot be at 240lbs. Cause the 3 inches is all that matters right ? His shoulder width, waist, legs, and arms have nothing to do with it ?

But, after I get through reading about how wrong I am, we all agree that John Lott knows better than any of us.

Seriously. Sometimes it seems it is thrown out there just to say white is black and black is white.

Might I ADD the only comment I answered to was that "240lbs is too light for an OLB." Which is wrong, and there are facts supporting that it is wrong.

Deal with it.

And if you can't, go talk to Lawrence Taylor and tell him your can't play 3-4 OLB at 6'3" and 240lbs, or Gregg Lloyd, or Carl Banks.

 

[WarnerHOF]

I think this pretty much signals that Porter isn't going to be anything more than a situational pass rusher for us.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I think this pretty much signals that Porter isn't going to be anything more than a situational pass rusher for us.

It signals to Joey, that if he pays attention to what Lott is preaching, he'll put up good numbers and extend his career.

 

[TruColor]

I thought the 5 layer burritos used to be 7 layers. Doesn't losing the two layers make them "diet" burritos?

Taco Town has it right:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/taco-town/229053/

 

[Duckjake]

Gotcha.

So, I am crazy, and completely wrong. There is no way an OLB should be 240lbs. and the 3 inches makes all the difference.

But, you agree that Porter being 240 lbs next season will be fine.

Thanks, I am glad to shake up my logic, and realize that I have no idea what I am talking about, and unless I know what I am talking about.

You used Harrison as an example. I was simply saying that Harrison was not a good example because of the height difference. That's it.

And if you can't, go talk to Lawrence Taylor and tell him your can't play 3-4 OLB at 6'3" and 240lbs, or Gregg Lloyd, or Carl Banks.
Today 06:25 AM

I still think that 240 at 6'3" is too light to play OLB in 2010.

That 6'3" 240 was big enough to play 15-20 years ago is irrelevant. The weights for the Cards 1993 starting offensive line: 295LT,305RT,297G,282G,285C.

The 2009 line: 324,316,312,338,305(C).

Current ROLBs in the nfl

Bowens of Cleveland 6'3" 265
Thomas in NE 6'2" 270
Pace in NY 6'4" 265
Merriman in SD 6'4" 265
Hali 6'3' 275
Haralson 6'0" 255
Will Davis 6'2" 260
Ware 6'4" 262
Suggs 6'3" 260
Harrison 6'0" 245
Dumervil 5'11" 248

Note that the ONLY guys under 260 are 6.0 or less.

BTW: It appears the blog was an April Fools joke. Couldn't load it before today so hadn't read it.
Doesn't detract from the debate over size for a ROLB though.

 

[Shane]

Then the issue is beyond you.



I am being told that 240lbs is too light for OLB, yet there are successful ones out there.

I am being told that because he is 3 inches taller, he cannot be at 240lbs. Cause the 3 inches is all that matters right ? His shoulder width, waist, legs, and arms have nothing to do with it ?

But, after I get through reading about how wrong I am, we all agree that John Lott knows better than any of us.

Seriously. Sometimes it seems it is thrown out there just to say white is black and black is white.

Might I ADD the only comment I answered to was that "240lbs is too light for an OLB." Which is wrong, and there are facts supporting that it is wrong.

Deal with it.

And if you can't, go talk to Lawrence Taylor and tell him your can't play 3-4 OLB at 6'3" and 240lbs, or Gregg Lloyd, or Carl Banks.

Wow. You so got me there. 2 of those LBer's you list as a comparison played in another ERA of pro football. Greg Fricken Lloyd has been out of football for 12 years himself. So you could almost make a case that he did too. Seems NFL talent gets bigger, stronger, and faster form year to year and definitely from decade to decade.

But even after saying that could you please quote anywhere in this thread where you were told by me that you are just plain wrong? Like you are inferring in this post?

In fact I directly stated before you even chimed in that I like the premise but am skeptical. Due to the amount of strength he is sure to lose in the transition. The guy isnt fat and that weight has to come from somewhere IE muscle.

I understand that you are grumpy: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2207808&postcount=5762

But no need to bring it out in here.

 

[Stout]

I didn't know Lott trained our players to lose strength. That doesn't seem to make sense, so I'm going to believe that isn't the case.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I didn't know Lott trained our players to lose strength. That doesn't seem to make sense, so I'm going to believe that isn't the case.

The training is designed to increase strength, stamina and find optimum weight.

He made it clear. for example, that Herman Johnson should drop to 350 to reach his potential, and Beanie dropped about 20 lbs under Lott's approach.

 

[Mulli]

This thread rules.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I understand that you are grumpy: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2207808&postcount=5762

But no need to bring it out in here.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

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I apologize if the post was too aggressive, and yet I feel I am no more aggressive than 95% of the other posts on this board if it is offensive in some way then those apologies are offered.

I do appreciate you using my frustrations against me tho, it will help remind me to try not to make both mistakes again.

Enjoy the pic. She is a hottie.

......but 240 lbs is plenty for an 2010 NFL OLB in a 3-4, just ask Elvis Dumerville

 

[WildBB]

...and booze!

And driving.

+2

 

[Shane]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

You must be registered for see images attach

I apologize if the post was too aggressive, and yet I feel I am no more aggressive than 95% of the other posts on this boardif it is offensive in some way then those apologies are offered.

I do appreciate you using my frustrations against me tho, it will help remind me to try not to make both mistakes again.

Enjoy the pic. She is a hottie.

......but 240 lbs is plenty for an 2010 NFL OLB in a 3-4, just ask Elvis Dumerville

Way to avoid the whole rest of the post that was part of the topic at hand. Also I didnt use anything against you. You were blatantly frustrated at least in tone in your post. You were claiming things that weren't true by stating that we said you were "wrong" which we never did either.

 

[Shane]

I didn't know Lott trained our players to lose strength. That doesn't seem to make sense, so I'm going to believe that isn't the case.

You go ahead and believe that. Its your right.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Way to avoid the whole rest of the post that was part of the topic at hand. Also I didnt use anything against you. You were blatantly frustrated at least in tone in your post. You were claiming things that weren't true by stating that we said you were "wrong" which we never did either.

Fair enough on all accounts.

Please discount my comments, you are correct with your breakdown above. It is a new age, with new players.

I apologize for putting words in your mouth which you never said.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

You go ahead and believe that. Its your right.

You sound frustrated.

 

[Shane]

You sound frustrated.

I'm downright pissed

 

[Stout]

You go ahead and believe that. Its your right.

I will. You go ahead thinking you know more than Lott. It's your right, and you tend to exercise it a lot

 

[Shane]

I will. You go ahead thinking you know more than Lott. It's your right, and you tend to exercise it a lot

Is it a Pun?

Nope already stated I don't know more than Lott. I'm just skeptical you can take 15 pounds off a guy who IS NOT FAT and not expect to lose some strength in the deal. It may be possible. But I have my doubts.