Lottery day thread

[JCSunsfan]

Today is the day and I am encouraged as a Suns fan.

The reason, of course, is that for the first time in a lottery, nothing bad can happen. The worst thing that can happen is the most likely thing to happen--number 14. No losing a coin flip for big Lew. No second place for the Admiral. No Atlanta Hawks to get lucky and move up and rob us of our pick.

The only surprise that can happen today is a good one.

Unless the Lakers win. . .

 

[HooverDam]

We're moving up. Speak victory. Its going to happen!

 

[KloD]

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[Griffin]

nothing bad can happen.

Unless the Lakers win.

Agreed. Which is why I fully expect that.

 

[Superbone]

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[Dback Jon]

Agreed. Which is why I fully expect that.

Lakers-Celtics have to get better picks - the NBA demands it

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

At least we'll know first-up if we jumped. If so, wild ride!
If not, we can watch to see if there are any "market corrections"...

 

[B-Dogg]

Im really starting to like Austin out of Baylor with late 1st or 2nd he can shot and is a decent rebounder and fits the Suns style of basketball really well.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I am absolutely convinced we are going to get lucky tonight. Not that I haven't been just as convinced in previous unsuccessful lotteries. But this is the year, for sure.

Steve

 

[devilalum]

I am absolutely convinced we are going to get lucky tonight. Not that I haven't been just as convinced in previous unsuccessful lotteries. But this is the year, for sure.

Steve

The Suns have definitely been riding a lucky streak.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Suns have definitely been riding a lucky streak.

And Minnesota is definitely on an unlucky streak.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I am absolutely convinced we are going to get lucky tonight. Not that I haven't been just as convinced in previous unsuccessful lotteries. But this is the year, for sure.

Steve

i'm with you 100%.

 

[slinslin]

winning the lottery would be the best thing that ever happened to this franchise

imagine choosing between Wiggins(TMac) and Parker(Melo/Pierce) and having enough assets left to trade up for either Aaron Gordon or Vonleh. Filling argueably our biggest needs at both forward spots with top prospects.

 

[slinslin]

If we dont move up I would like to move up for either Vonleh or Gordon while keeping one pick to get G/F James Young.

I believe those 3 are the youngest US players in the draft, although that is not the reason they pique my interest.

 

[Cheesebeef]

winning the lottery would be the best thing that ever happened to this franchise

imagine choosing between Wiggins(TMac) and Parker(Melo/Pierce) and having enough assets left to trade up for either Aaron Gordon or Vonleh. Filling argueably our biggest needs at both forward spots with top prospects.

you really think if we win the lottery that the Wolves pick (14), the 18th pick and 27th pick will move us up into the top seven? I just don't see that happening.

 

[slinslin]

you really think if we win the lottery that the Wolves pick (14), the 18th pick and 27th pick will move us up into the top seven? I just don't see that happening.

Gordon and Vonleh will likely not both go top 7.

Last year Utah traded #21 and #14 for #9 to pick Trey Burke.

I don't see how we could not trade for #6 Lakers, #7 Kings or #8 Pistons with the assets we have - #14, #18, #27, Lakers 2015.

All of those teams were mentioned as teams that could either trade their pick, or acquire additional picks.

If we offered all those picks for the Lakers #6 I don't see how they could turn that down. We might be overpaying a lot as I expect the Lakers to be in the lottery again next year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Gordon and Vonleh will likely not both go top 7.

Last year Utah traded #21 and #14 for #9 to pick Trey Burke.

last year's draft was tabbed as the weakest draft in a decade. this year's draft is tabbed as one of the strongest in recent memory.

I don't see how we could not trade for #6 Lakers, #7 Kings or #8 Pistons with the assets we have - #14, #18, #27, Lakers 2015.

All of those teams were mentioned as teams that could either trade their pick, or acquire additional picks.

If we offered all those picks for the Lakers #6 I don't see how they could turn that down. We might be overpaying a lot as I expect the Lakers to be in the lottery again next year.

ah, you're including the Lakers pick next year. maybe that sweetens the pot enough.

 

[slinslin]

last year's draft was tabbed as the weakest draft in a decade. this year's draft is tabbed as one of the strongest in recent memory.

How does that change anything?

Strongest draft in recent memory might also mean that teams are going to value later picks more depending on how they evaluate the talent some teams might feel like the difference in player quality between #6-8 and #13-15 might not be that big because the draft might be considered deeper than usual.

I am sure there are plenty more examples of a team trading up using multiple picks.

Houston traded #13 Richard Jefferson, #18 Jason Collins and #23 Brandon Armstrong for #7 Eddie Griffin in 2001.

Plus we have more assets, all of our players should have positive trade value and we might still have some capspace to simply absorb a contract.

 

[AzStevenCal]

How does that change anything?

Strongest draft in recent memory might also mean that teams are going to value later picks more depending on how they evaluate the talent some teams might feel like the difference in player quality between #6-8 and #13-15 might not be that big because the draft might be considered deeper than usual.

I am sure there are plenty more examples of a team trading up using multiple picks.

Houston traded #13 Richard Jefferson, #18 Jason Collins and #23 Brandon Armstrong for #7 Eddie Griffin in 2001.

Plus we have more assets, all of our players should have positive trade value and we might still have some capspace to simply absorb a contract.

I don't think we'll be able to trade up to get any of the six top picks using just this year's picks. We might be able to move up for Gordon (at 7 or below) but if you asked me if I'd rather have our three picks or Gordon, it's not even close. For me it would be like asking us to choose between Kevin Love or Channing Frye.

Steve

 

[SirStefan32]

How does that change anything?

Strongest draft in recent memory might also mean that teams are going to value later picks more depending on how they evaluate the talent some teams might feel like the difference in player quality between #6-8 and #13-15 might not be that big because the draft might be considered deeper than usual.

I am sure there are plenty more examples of a team trading up using multiple picks.

Houston traded #13 Richard Jefferson, #18 Jason Collins and #23 Brandon Armstrong for #7 Eddie Griffin in 2001.

Plus we have more assets, all of our players should have positive trade value and we might still have some capspace to simply absorb a contract.

All I know is that every year people talk about the Suns (and a bunch of other teams) moving up, and it almost never happens.

 

[slinslin]

We didn't have these kind of assets in any of those years.

Anyway
Vonleh is
#7 DX, #6 .net , #5 espn

Gordon
#9 DX, #11 .net, #7 espn

Young
#13 DX, #15 .net, #15 espn

Lavine
#16 DX, #11 .net, #12 espn

 

[AzStevenCal]

We didn't have these kind of assets in any of those years.

Anyway
Vonleh is
#7 DX, #6 .net , #5 espn

Gordon
#9 DX, #11 .net, #7 espn

Young
#13 DX, #15 .net, #15 espn

Lavine
#16 DX, #11 .net, #12 espn

I have no idea where Gordon is going but I just can't see Smart getting drafted before Vonleh, as DX has it.

Steve

 

[Chris_Sanders]

It would be fitting that the only team that didn't tank when they were expected to actually won the lottery. Would certainly quiet the lottery critics.

 

[Cheesebeef]

all I know is I'm going out and buying some depends today because I fully expect to crap my pants when Minnesota is shown to have the 14th pick.

 

[Mainstreet]

Gordon and Vonleh will likely not both go top 7.

Last year Utah traded #21 and #14 for #9 to pick Trey Burke.

I don't see how we could not trade for #6 Lakers, #7 Kings or #8 Pistons with the assets we have - #14, #18, #27, Lakers 2015.

All of those teams were mentioned as teams that could either trade their pick, or acquire additional picks.

If we offered all those picks for the Lakers #6 I don't see how they could turn that down. We might be overpaying a lot as I expect the Lakers to be in the lottery again next year.

I do not see a lock star player at selections #6, #7 or #8 especially for all those assets you propose giving up supposedly in a strong draft. If there were lock stars they would be going in the top five picks. However, I believe there is a star in all those picks you mention giving up.

Because the Suns have draft picks as assets does not mean they should not be highly valued. I would entertain moving up if a player slips and the asking price is less than four first round draft picks.

Also if the Suns do a trade, they should try to secure second round draft picks as there will be talent in that round.