Lute dismisses Chris Rodgers from the team

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I don't mean to rip or degrade your coach, staff, or team...This kinda reminds me of the 97 team...The team finished like 5th in the Pac? But won the national title...The problem player (grades) was Miles that season...
 

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Wow. Someone needs to harness that kid.

He's an "introvert AND an extrovert"? I suggest picking one of those Chris, and sticking to it. If not, anti-depressants may be in your future.

If Rodgers would just shut up, his chances of returning would increase. I'd be surprised if Lute took him back.
 

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green machine said:
I'm an intern for KGUN, and we cleaned up the email as best we could as far as grammar goes. Wow, reading the original set me back as a writer about 7 years I think.

:lmao:

His email gave me a headache ... I can only imagine what the un-edited version did to you!
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:


You have to admit, the unintentional comedy rating for this one is off the charts....


Some gems:

"Just because I was the ‘man’ at my high school, that shouldn't be used against me in college."

"ts' kind of like David and Goliath.

If you have ever seen the movie Braveheart or Gladiator then you will understand exactly how I feel about my situation here. "

Sure...I'm feeling you Chris, you are a modern day William Wallace...:biglaugh:
 

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Russ Smith said:
Here's an article that rips Lute for saying he might take Rodgers back.

From whatMao said he's got the timeline wrong.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9183071
This is probably the dumbest articles I have ever read by someone who is supposedly a legitimate journalist. For one, Doyel admits to ignoring what his sources in the Arizona program told him so that he could run with an unproven conspiracy theory. Secondly, his theory is ridiculously flawed. Let's go through this one step at a time:

Two major points are -

1. Chris Rodgers was kicked off the team on January 18th.

2. Jawaan McClellan has his season-ending surgery on January 19th.

So Doyel is assuming Lute thought everything was fine with McClellan on 1/18 which allowed him to boot Rodgers. Assuming that was the case, then McClellan must have found out about his hand injury on 1/19 which then prompted Lute to leave the door open for Rodgers to return to the team.

Now to reality. Does anyone who knows anything about sports actually beleive that a coach would not know one of his players was going in for a surgery the day befopre it was supposed to happen? Does Doyel actually believe that over the course of about 12 hours that McClellan's injury was diagnosed, had the full surgical procedure both prepared and performed, and was released in time to sit on the bench for the game against Stanford? And if Lute only found out about the injury on Thursday as Doyel insists, then how come Jawaan sat much of Saturday's Oregon game with ice on his hand? And how come he did not practice all week and had an MRI on Monday?

And from a personal perspective when I made this post and referenced Arizona getting thinner, I had already knew about Jawaan's injury but didn't bring it up because nobody on the internet or elsewhere had ran with it. If Doyel's theory is to be believed and that Lute only found out about Jawaan's injury on 1/19, then I suppose I'm more in the know regarding Arizona basketball than Lute Olson.

I know Doyel has a point in that better players are given a longer leash at Arizona and Kentucky than marginal players. But the reality of college sports is that wins are the most valued commodity and that sometimes you have to put up with a headache player if he's going to help you win games. This is the case at every college in every sport. Singling out Arizona does not surprise me considering the source, but Doyel could have at least tried to make a sweeping statement regarding the matter and his point probably would have been taken more seriously. Solely targeting Lute and Tubby just makes him look like a vindictive hack.
 
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Was this part wrong?

"It was more sad than funny, how Arizona coach Lute Olson needed 3½ years to kick guard Chris Rodgers off the team.

Rodgers was usually a bad teammate"
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
I know Doyel has a point in that better players are given a longer leash at Arizona and Kentucky than marginal players. But the reality of college sports is that wins are the most valued commodity and that sometimes you have to put up with a headache player if he's going to help you win games. This is the case at every college in every sport. Singling out Arizona does not surprise me considering the source, but Doyel could have at least tried to make a sweeping statement regarding the matter and his point probably would have been taken more seriously. Solely targeting Lute and Tubby just makes him look like a vindictive hack.

How so?

He's pointing out facts...isn't he?
I hate journalists most of the time (politics). According to your own words, ua basketball players can break the rules and get away with it...

You shouldn't group ALL schools into your opinion on higher education...what proof do you have? You use the statement "the case at every college in every sport" very losely...
 

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AZBALLER said:
How so?

He's pointing out facts...isn't he?
I hate journalists most of the time (politics). According to your own words, ua basketball players can break the rules and get away with it...

You shouldn't group ALL schools into your opinion on higher education...what proof do you have? You use the statement "the case at every college in every sport" very losely...
You really don't think schools overlook indiscretions by important athletes for the sake of winning football games? Time to get your head out of the sand. Just in the last year I can think of a few examples when players who probably should have been booted off their teams yet have hung around because they could help win games. Loren Wade, Marcus Vick, Ernie Sims, Herschel Dennis, Rey Mauluga, Marcus Williams, Chris Rodgers, and Luther Head are just some examples off the top of my head who have been caught and incidents been reported.

I'm not saying this mindset is right, but in this day in age major college coaches are paid to win first with eveything else coming second. And to do that you have to sometimes take in kids with questionable backgrounds and sometimes ignore things you really don't want to. But what are you goingt o do? With all the money now wrapped in college sports, it's become the nature of the beast.
 

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I thought the article had some merit, at least, when it was talking about Walters and Onobun. Kirk didn't play that much last year after he lost the red shirt, and Fendi won't see alot of minutes this year. Why lose the red shirt?
 
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