Making Of A Murderer (Netflix)

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http://www.businessinsider.com/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-exoneration-2016-3?r=UK&IR=T

March 18, 2016

"Making a Murderer" subject Steven Avery's new attorney, Kathleen Zellner, is highly confident she'll get the murder convict out of prison — possibly even without a new trial. That's according to Curtis Busse, which works with the Avery family to deliver information to the public.

"We're not even looking for a new trial. We're actually looking for an exoneration," Busse said in a recent interview with WIBX 950AM. "Zellner's very confident, and Steven is also very confident that it's not gonna take that much time. And we're talking months here."

When asked what new evidence made Avery and his attorney so confident, Busse answered: "Phone records, DNA, there's alibis there that weren't proven the first time that Zellner is taking to the next level and gone the extra mile to prove. They're going to show that the blood [in victim Teresa Halbach's car] and the age of the blood, it's not going to match up between the two."

And if Avery gets exonerated for the 2005 Teresa Halbach murder, he plans to make his town pay for the mistaken conviction, again. He previously filed a $36 million civil suit against Manitowoc County, in Wisconsin, and its police department after he was exonerated for a sexual-assault conviction for which he served 18 years in prison. "If they thought that [the] $36 million lawsuit was huge, a $100 million lawsuit will be a lot worse on their plate this time," Busse said.
 

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http://www.businessinsider.com/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-exoneration-2016-3?r=UK&IR=T

March 18, 2016

"Making a Murderer" subject Steven Avery's new attorney, Kathleen Zellner, is highly confident she'll get the murder convict out of prison — possibly even without a new trial. That's according to Curtis Busse, which works with the Avery family to deliver information to the public.

"We're not even looking for a new trial. We're actually looking for an exoneration," Busse said in a recent interview with WIBX 950AM. "Zellner's very confident, and Steven is also very confident that it's not gonna take that much time. And we're talking months here."

When asked what new evidence made Avery and his attorney so confident, Busse answered: "Phone records, DNA, there's alibis there that weren't proven the first time that Zellner is taking to the next level and gone the extra mile to prove. They're going to show that the blood [in victim Teresa Halbach's car] and the age of the blood, it's not going to match up between the two."

And if Avery gets exonerated for the 2005 Teresa Halbach murder, he plans to make his town pay for the mistaken conviction, again. He previously filed a $36 million civil suit against Manitowoc County, in Wisconsin, and its police department after he was exonerated for a sexual-assault conviction for which he served 18 years in prison. "If they thought that [the] $36 million lawsuit was huge, a $100 million lawsuit will be a lot worse on their plate this time," Busse said.

God help him if he gets out again armed with an even more damaging lawsuit.

I'm guessing his next go-round will involve them finding a mass grave on his property.. That's if the corrupt Manitowoc County doesn't do some serious house-cleaning.
 

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God help him if he gets out again armed with an even more damaging lawsuit.

I'm guessing his next go-round will involve them finding a mass grave on his property.. That's if the corrupt Manitowoc County doesn't do some serious house-cleaning.

He should move out, and far away from the county first, then file the lawsuit. ;)
 

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God help him if he gets out again.

Brown matter may be starting to hit the fan. Avery's attorney is scheduled to file a brief with the court May 31. Interesting tweet from her:

@ZellnerLaw: Planted evidence: In SA's trailer, pit/barrel, garage & BD's head. #MakingAMurderer Science will #MakeItRight #ConvictGuilty

lots going on it appears: https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc
 
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Brown matter may be starting to hit the fan. Avery's attorney is scheduled to file a brief with the court May 31. Interesting tweet from her:

@ZellnerLaw: Planted evidence: In SA's trailer, pit/barrel, garage & BD's head. #MakingAMurderer Science will #MakeItRight #ConvictGuilty

lots going on it appears: https://www.reddit.com/r/makingamurderer

Cool. I wonder what Netflix has been doing since the last show ended. What have they been documenting/recording? The plans are to come up with a second series, but I doubt it comes out before all this happens.
 

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Holy cow, Brendan Dassey's conviction has been overturned!

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...urderer_us_57ae2f42e4b0718404117823?section=&

A federal judge on Friday overturned Brendan Dassey’s conviction in the death of Teresa Halbach.

The 26-year-old Dassey, who was featured in the Netflix mini-documentary series “Making A Murderer,” was sentenced in 2007 on homicide and sexual assault charges to life without parole over the murder of Halbach in Manitowoc County, Wisconsin.

In the documentary, Dassey appeared as a sympathetic character who seemed to be bullied by investigators during his followup interviews. According to court documents, a federal judge has agreed — stating that investigators made false promises to Dassey and claimed to “already know what happened” when they interrogated him.

The judge rendered Dassey’s confession involuntary under the Fifth Amendment.

He’s to be released within 90 days, WISN reports.
 
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There is a fascinating precedent being set with these active crime documentaries having real life impact on these cases. Theres this one but also "The Jinx" which virtually single handedly is the reason Robert Durst was arrested.
 

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Will be interesting to see if Wisconsin tries to re-try him
 

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Wow! Now they have even more to add to their 2nd show(if they decide to make one). Glad he was freed.
 
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There is a fascinating precedent being set with these active crime documentaries having real life impact on these cases. Theres this one but also "The Jinx" which virtually single handedly is the reason Robert Durst was arrested.

yup. people say investigative journalism is pretty dead and there's no more Woodward and Bernsteins out there and even if there were, no one reads papers anymore anyway. Well, this, plus the Durst thing is the new wave. Pretty cool to see how much of an impact a doc can have.
 

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Will be interesting to see if Wisconsin tries to re-try him

I don't think there was much evidence on him outside of the confession, so a re-trial would probably be DOA. And what prosecutor in his right mind would want to take on this albatross with the whole world watching and criticizing? The state will likely appeal though and hope for the best which will keep Dassey in prison for quite a while longer. However, if Avery's lawyer indeed drops a major bomb on Manitowac in the coming weeks as she has indicated, then who knows what will happen when the cockroaches start to scatter.
 

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Brendan Dassey Of 'Making A Murderer' Wins Federal Appeals Court Case

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ng-a-murderer-wins-federal-appeals-court-case

A federal appeals court has upheld a lower court ruling that the confession of Brendan Dassey, whose case was part of the Netflix documentary series Making a Murderer, was involuntary. Dassey was found guilty of helping his uncle kill a young woman in 2005, and has been held in a Wisconsin prison. The case against Dassey was constructed largely on that confession, in which he stated that he helped to rape and kill a woman named Teresa Halbach.

A three-judge panel from the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in its majority opinion that Dassey should be released unless the state of Wisconsin decides to retry him within 90 days or appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court.
 
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Brendan Dassey Of 'Making A Murderer' Wins Federal Appeals Court Case

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ng-a-murderer-wins-federal-appeals-court-case

A federal appeals court has upheld a lower court ruling that the confession of Brendan Dassey, whose case was part of the Netflix documentary series Making a Murderer, was involuntary. Dassey was found guilty of helping his uncle kill a young woman in 2005, and has been held in a Wisconsin prison. The case against Dassey was constructed largely on that confession, in which he stated that he helped to rape and kill a woman named Teresa Halbach.

A three-judge panel from the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in its majority opinion that Dassey should be released unless the state of Wisconsin decides to retry him within 90 days or appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court.

I can't even imagine how good it must feel for the people who made this. Documentarians goal is always to achieve change, to right wrongs in society and so rarely accomplish that.

Bravo to them and good luck to Brendan who got completely railroaded by the system.
 

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I don't know if anyone is still interested in these kinds of shows, but Netflix just released another mini called "Evil Genius". I just binged the first 2 episodes and I'm not sure I'm going to get to sleep tonight. Talk about anxiety! This is a much weirder case and it's a bit different than Making of a Murderer, but it is fascinating to watch. And only 4 episodes.
 

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I don't know if anyone is still interested in these kinds of shows, but Netflix just released another mini called "Evil Genius". I just binged the first 2 episodes and I'm not sure I'm going to get to sleep tonight. Talk about anxiety! This is a much weirder case and it's a bit different than Making of a Murderer, but it is fascinating to watch. And only 4 episodes.

I have considered watching that. based on previews it looks like the criminals made it all such a colossal cluster fork the cops cant figure out what even happened
 

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I can't even imagine how good it must feel for the people who made this. Documentarians goal is always to achieve change, to right wrongs in society and so rarely accomplish that.

Bravo to them and good luck to Brendan who got completely railroaded by the system.
Didn't this get re-overturned and he is still in prison? Despite any perceived guilt or innocence, I cannot fathom how anyone with eyes and ears could be comfortable with the way the police and prosecutors dealt with this kid. It was unconscionable.
 

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Didn't this get re-overturned and he is still in prison? Despite any perceived guilt or innocence, I cannot fathom how anyone with eyes and ears could be comfortable with the way the police and prosecutors dealt with this kid. It was unconscionable.

Yep. Brendan is pretty much out of appeals at this point. His legal team is currently in the process of requesting the Supreme Court hear the case. Long shot. His best hope probably is for Steven Avery's lawyer to prove they didn't commit the crime and exonerate them.
 

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I don't know if anyone is still interested in these kinds of shows, but Netflix just released another mini called "Evil Genius". I just binged the first 2 episodes and I'm not sure I'm going to get to sleep tonight. Talk about anxiety! This is a much weirder case and it's a bit different than Making of a Murderer, but it is fascinating to watch. And only 4 episodes.

Yep. Finished it a few nights ago. It was great! Crazy how it all went down. The guy that created it did leave a few things unfinished with a few people, but it was good.
 

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Yep. Brendan is pretty much out of appeals at this point. His legal team is currently in the process of requesting the Supreme Court hear the case. Long shot. His best hope probably is for Steven Avery's lawyer to prove they didn't commit the crime and exonerate them.

Really? That's to bad. I thought for sure he was going free.
 

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