Matrix Goes Off About Not Winning a Title w/ PHX

[TJ]

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This was intense to watch and listen to. *Language*

 

[Cheesebeef]

Marion can EAD. I remember that second half of Game 5 in 2007, where he went TOTAL TORTILLA like he ALWAYS did when the chips were down. You can go back to that thread and I was probably shredding him for shrinking in the moment.

And of course it came down to what Steve did... that's because MARION NEVER DEVELOPED ANY HANDLES or any kind of post game and couldn't take advantage of them putting Tony Parker on him.

 

[Germz249]

Man.. his pinky..

 

[GatorAZ]

Dude is all over the place. If he was like that behind the scenes it must’ve been exhausting.

 

[95pro]

You know what I’m sayin

 

[SirStefan32]

First off, Marion would routinely shrink when it counted. Year after year, he would disappear. That said, I do think he is right. San Antonio would beat us year after year doing the exact same thing, and D'Antoni would refuse to adjust.

 

[Ronin]

Its a slam dunk!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

First off, Marion would routinely shrink when it counted. Year after year, he would disappear. That said, I do think he is right. San Antonio would beat us year after year doing the exact same thing, and D'Antoni would refuse to adjust.

Agree. Just bc matrix is wrong about what he was capable of and shirking his role in the failures doesn’t make his rant about Dantoni any less accurate.

 

[Hoop Head]

He had me confused by saying the Suns should have won the next year, not the year Amare got suspended in the Spurs series. That next year they lost to the Spurs in the first round. He did say the year Dallas went to the finals though which was a year prior. He's really all over the place with how he talks.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He had me confused by saying the Suns should have won the next year, not the year Amare got suspended in the Spurs series. That next year they lost to the Spurs in the first round. He did say the year Dallas went to the finals though which was a year prior. He's really all over the place with how he talks.

I definitely noticed that as well.

yes, DA didn’t make adjustments. Water is wet. Thanks for the rant Shawn.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd say to Shawn, if you're getting open, taking and making shots in the second half, Steve Nash gets you the ball.

 

[TJ]

I could listen to angry Matrix all day

*LANGUAGE*

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[Raindog]

Well, D'Antoni sucked eggs. I can't argue with that part.

 

[GatorAZ]

Shawn complaining about something?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Shawn complaining about something?

Well sure, the Boomerang Channel no longer shows any Yogi Bear cartoons.

 

[Phrazbit]

I could listen to angry Matrix all day

*LANGUAGE*

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I've talked about this before, you look at the metrics that define a hall of famer... Marion is DEEPLY in the margin of hall of fame players. Basketball reference's HOF measurement has him as one of the best 100 players of all time.

His gripe is legit, a player who was one of the best rebounders of his era, one of the best defenders of his era, a guy who could defend virtually any position and someone who was able to score 20 a game in his prime while feasting on scraps and corner threes... which at the time were not valued at near the level they are now.

 

[Bufalay]

I've talked about this before, you look at the metrics that define a hall of famer... Marion is DEEPLY in the margin of hall of fame players. Basketball reference's HOF measurement has him as one of the best 100 players of all time.

His gripe is legit, a player who was one of the best rebounders of his era, one of the best defenders of his era, a guy who could defend virtually any position and someone who was able to score 20 a game in his prime while feasting on scraps and corner threes... which at the time were not valued at near the level they are now.

It's crazy that the Suns haven't even put him in the ring of honor. Same with Stoudemire.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He had me confused by saying the Suns should have won the next year, not the year Amare got suspended in the Spurs series. That next year they lost to the Spurs in the first round. He did say the year Dallas went to the finals though which was a year prior. He's really all over the place with how he talks.

I had to come back in to this forum after not posting for years for this rant...

I think Shawn was right about most of what he said. I do think the Suns were a better overall team the year they lost to Spurs in R1.

With that said, I can't stand it when players rant like this, while at the same time taking 0 responsibility for their own failures at the same time.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It's crazy that the Suns haven't even put him in the ring of honor. Same with Stoudemire.

It is criminal.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It's crazy that the Suns haven't even put him in the ring of honor. Same with Stoudemire.

It is criminal.

Marion refused a trade that would have put us in great shape for a championship, Stoudemire demanded a trade putting an end to those championship hopes. So I suspect when they make the movie it will be called The Small-Minded Emperor Strikes Back.

 

[Finito]

Marion refused a trade that would have put us in great shape for a championship, Stoudemire demanded a trade putting an end to those championship hopes. So I suspect when they make the movie it will be called The Small-Minded Emperor Strikes Back.

That would of brought KG to Phoenix and Amare would of been delt for Steph Curry right?

Good lord could you imagine

 

[AzStevenCal]

That would of brought KG to Phoenix and Amare would of been delt for Steph Curry right?

Good lord could you imagine

With Marion's okay I think just the KG thing happens. The Warriors changed their mind on the Amare deal but Stat playing next to Garnett could have been special for a few years.

 

[Mainstreet]

That would of brought KG to Phoenix and Amare would of been delt for Steph Curry right?

Good lord could you imagine

I could have settled for Garnett.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Marion refused a trade that would have put us in great shape for a championship, Stoudemire demanded a trade putting an end to those championship hopes. So I suspect when they make the movie it will be called The Small-Minded Emperor Strikes Back.

Boohoo. I thought this was a 'business?' Why do owners do this? Also looking at Bidwill and Anquan here...

 

[JCSunsfan]

My goodness. Shawn is a lot more . . . errr . . . eloquent than he was when here as a player. He could hardly talk then. Anyone remember how painful interviews were with him. His speech was unintelligible. We commented about it here often. The difference is so stark that I almost wonder if it really him on this clip.