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I noticed a few recent threads labeling him a bust. For the most part it’s hard to argue he wasn’t. In one of my recent posts I talked about first round QBs ruined by their teams. I’d put Leinart in that category. Leinart could have come out a year earlier and might have been the first QB selected. No one doubted his athletic abilities, but in his final year at USC they must have set a record for drops. The dropoff in record was unfairly tied to Leinart and in the draft he fell to the Cards at ten. A bright guy (98th percentile on the Wonderlic), he wanted to be paid on ability, not draft slot. He held out, eventually signing after the Cards openly said they were losing patience.

The Cards already had Warner, but he hadn’t recovered his confidence after the NY debacle. With him struggling Leinart got his chance. He started game 5 and threw for 2 TDs, completing 22 of 35 attempts. The next week against the Bears he threw for 2 first half TDs, completing 24 of 42. Despite throwing no interceptions in that game, Dennis Green got very conservative and lost the game 24-23. After the game Green exploded and the Cards were never the same. The team was in shock the next couple of games and Leinart’s completion percentage dropped to 40 in both games. Leinart’s next game against the Boys was slightly better, but in the 3 games Leinart threw for only 1 TD and 5 interceptions.

In the final 6 games Leinart returned to his best form. He completed more than 60% of his passes, setting a Cardinal rookie record for passing yards in a game (405) and for a rookie season (2547). The Cards won 4 of those 6 games. Overall he completed 57% of his throws for the season.

Predictably Green was fired and Whisenhunt brought in a new offense. He and Leinart were never really on the same page and Whisenhunt seemed to desire the experience of Warner. Leinart lost 2 road games and won both home games. In the next game Leinart suffered a broken collarbone and Leinart wouldn’t start again for more than 2 years. It’s certainly important to add Warner played great. When Leinart did finally start against Tennessee, he lost a tough game even though he completed nearly 68% of his passes. I’ve heard he was promised the starting job would be his when Warner retired. However when Leinart played poorly in the following preseason the job was given to Derek Anderson. Anderson was so bad Max Hall eventually replaced him. Anderson was released after being caught on TV laughing at the Cards’ poor play.

Leinart kicked around a couple more years but was never the same. I’m not certain he would have led the Cards to numerous victories but I think he might have been a successful QB.
 

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Good points but Leinart's success after his 1st year also went to his head to a certain degree. Him and Whisenhunt are to blame for sure.
 

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Leinart states that the first QB coach who taught him to tie his eyes to his feet was when he was with the Texans. That should tell you enough.
 

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Whiz and the media treated Leinart unfairly. Whiz got bent when told that Leinart had questioned why he wasn't starting, but those media butt clowns always made out like Leinart called a press conference to ask these bold questions.

The reporters themselved backed Leinart up against a tree and asked repeatedly "Do you wonder why you're not starting?" Leinart goes "umm, sure" and a scandal was born from these idiots starting a fire and reporting on the flames.
 

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Let's not forget all the alleged cocaine and all the very real partying.

He wasn't some saint
 
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Let's not forget all the alleged cocaine and all the very real partying.

He wasn't some saint
I’m never big on “alleged”. With all the testing why risk a huge paycheck? I remember one silly hot tub picture. When he was on the field, he looked like a young, developing QB to me.
 

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Whatever he was or wasn't he was better than Anderson, Hall, and what's his name. Still think he should have been given a season.


Oh yeah I don't really care what he did off the field im not one of these guys oh our team is so classy guys.

Just win baby
 

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I’m never big on “alleged”. With all the testing why risk a huge paycheck? I remember one silly hot tub picture. When he was on the field, he looked like a young, developing QB to me.

Leinart would’ve been good but he never cared to improve and crumpled when he was asked to compete for a starting spot twice. One of the most mentally weak QBs in NFL history
 

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Whiz hated him Day 1 from the 2007 Super Bowl when Leinart blew him off on a dinner invite.

Leinart had maturity issues for sure, it wasn't just an organizational failure.
 

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Dude was content with being a backup in Houston and never went anywhere else to try to fight for a starting position. That makes it easy to say he just didn't have what it takes.
 

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Lienart sucked because if Leinart... He was not a professional didn't take his craft seriously and he paid for it not to mention he had a noodle arm....

Still better than what Whiz rolled with so called noodle arm and all.

Should have got his year.
 

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Still better than what Whiz rolled with so called noodle arm and all.

Should have got his year.

He had his opportunity he blew it in wind like a little baby in a bitch too...

He was a mental midget he was never going to be successful in the NFL
 

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He had his opportunity he blew it in wind like a little baby in a bitch too...

He was a mental midget he was never going to be successful in the NFL

Bitch? Whiz poo on him and gave us worse. Plus to accomplish what he did in his sports career I would never call someone like that a bitch. Still should have got his year IMO.
 
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Still better than what Whiz rolled with so called noodle arm and all.

Should have got his year.

He did and he blew it before the regular season; to Derek Anderson of all people. Leinart wasn’t mature or dedicated enough to run an NFL offense. His failure was due to his inability to improve and his finger-pointing when things went wrong.
 

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Guess I was a decade early haha - Leinart broke records as a rookie - I wish he had another season with Denny - I think Denny was pulled early by Michael Bidwill - Mr Green would have kept our drafting competitive -

It was really Leinart 2 shoulder injury’s - i remember the red and white scrimmage in Flagstaff, Leinart threw a TD and Whiz called it back to see how Leinart respondeded to adversity - instead of supporting and building confidence in the young QB - I disagreed loudly then, caught hell from other fans, and got kicked off the main board. well that was whiz’s theme for months and years with many QBs after Kurt - none responded well to his bs manufactured adversity.

Leinart came in as a cold back up for Texans with 9-10 before breaking his shoulder again. Leinart was ruined by Monday night meltdown followed by Whisenhunt BS imo. He had the skills and talent to be very good - but even more so Josh Mcnown - we would have done worse than keep Mcnown as back up to Kurt/ Leinart/ massive QB turnover- Mcnown was another fine Denny pick.

All would have done better if we didn’t pass 66% or more of the time over the last decade.
 

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Leinart was the real deal. Whiz gave him a raw deal. anyone who was there saw it,...sans homer haters of course....some just hate anyone who didnt win it all for their team.
 

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Leinart was the real deal. Whiz gave him a raw deal. anyone who was there saw it,...sans homer haters of course....some just hate anyone who didnt win it all for their team.
If he was such the real deal, why didn't he do anything after playing for us? I think without the shoulder injuries his career would have been different, but I am not convinced he ever would have had any great success in the league.

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Leinart was the real deal. Whiz gave him a raw deal. anyone who was there saw it,...sans homer haters of course....some just hate anyone who didnt win it all for their team.

Whiz gave him two chances to win the starting job, and each time had him slotted as the QB1 to start those competitions. How did Whiz give him a raw deal?
 

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Leinart states that the first QB coach who taught him to tie his eyes to his feet was when he was with the Texans. That should tell you enough.
It tells me nothing. Leinart sucked with the Texans & never started another game after leaving the Texans, and never even got a sniff from another team after being a 3rd stringer for the Raiders.
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He did and he blew it before the regular season; to Derek Anderson of all people. Leinart wasn’t mature or dedicated enough to run an NFL offense. His failure was due to his inability to improve and his finger-pointing when things went wrong.

He did everything the Whiz asked. He was never going to start him and that's a fact. If he wanted more deep balls he should have told him and he never did. Matt had a lot of check downs but that's preseason and the Whiz said himself he was on track. The two didn't jive and the Whiz was just buying his time to run him out of town and he did. The team put a lot into him and he should have got a prove it season. Anderson, Hall, and what's his name sucked and the Whiz was gone.

Saying the coaching staff picked Anderson and the other clowns is a knock on them not Matt.
 

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