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Leinart determined to win in community

May 13, 2011 9:46 PM
By DAN WOIKE
OCVARSITY.COM

SANTA ANA – You don't know Matt Leinart.

You might know the high school quarterback that was on all kinds of All-American teams. You might know the young man who took the reins from Carson Palmer and helped transform USC back into a national powerhouse. You might know the quarterback who won trophies on the field and dated them off of it.

You might know the prospect who had his character questioned after pictures of him partying in a hot tub became public. And you might know the guy who was the supposed to be the future for the Arizona Cardinals before being released in 2010.

But you don't know Matt Leinart, because if you did, you'd know that those things don't matter all that much. You'd know that what happens eight Saturdays a year at Mater Dei High School is what he feels defines him as a person.

"This is what I love," Leinart said. "This is what inspires me to be better."

The Urban Youth Football League has changed in the five years since its inception. An idea that Leinart had while still in college, the UYFL buses players from inner-city Los Angeles and Santa Ana to Mater Dei, where the kids suit up in pads, helmets, cleats and uniforms, keeping them off of the streets and out of trouble – at least for a few hours each week. And it has evolved to include academic support, medical exams and nutritional information.

Jason Rivera, 35, directs the UYFL in Santa Ana.

"We send the buses out to pick the kids up," Rivera said. "We bring them in. We have some kids that live underneath freeways. We let them know as long as they show up, we'll get them fed with some Subway and teach them football – the game of life.

"It's about making good decisions, trusting the person next to you, and it's about following a great leader."

And for many of these kids, finding a great leader isn't easy. Parental involvement in the UYFL is nearly non-existent. Rivera estimates that 90 percent of the participants in the league are legitimately at risk for gang activity, violence, drug use and other societal plights.

"The target is kids that come from bad neighborhoods, and what we want to let them know is that we grew up in the same kinds of neighborhoods and made the right decisions, choosing sports," Rivera said. "We want to let them to know that just because you're in a neighborhood, you don't have to be part of a neighborhood."

Rivera knows about these neighborhoods because he grew up in one. Before playing football at Mater Dei, Rivera navigated a world filled with police cars, helicopters, gang shootings, drug dealers, burglary and stolen cars in Santa Ana's Delhi neighborhood.

It's an upbringing Leinart can relate with more than most realize.

Leinart and his older brother Ryan grew up off of South Bristol Street and West Segerstrom Avenue in Santa Ana, and while the neighborhood wasn't as dangerous as the children they're now mentoring experience, it wasn't without its perils.

"I'm not saying I grew up in a terrible area, but I did have gang members four or five houses down from me and my brother," Leinart said. "We laugh about it now, but when we were younger, whether it was baseball or basketball or whatever, if a ball rolled down the street toward them, we'd just say, 'OK, let's play later.' We didn't want to run down there."

And then there was the time where Matt and Ryan got off the bus and headed home, only to walk by chalk outlines on their street. Making things even more difficult, Matt was a really big kid. He was tall; he was wide.

"He was just humongous," Ryan Leinart said.

When Matt was 9 years old, his weight would have forced him to play Pop Warner football with kids three or four years older. So, he didn't play. Instead, he gravitated to baseball and basketball, the two sports his parents could afford.

Eventually, Leinart grew into his body, going on to star at Mater Dei and USC, where he won two national championships and a Heisman Trophy. While at USC, Leinart's movie-star looks and constant winning coupled to make him something bigger than the average college football star.

"We've had a lot of great players who have been stars here, media stars if you will, and when Matt was here, he took it to another level where he was more of a celebrity," USC sports information director Tim Tessalone said. "What he did wasn't just sports news, it was news in Hollywood and the entertainment world."

After leaving USC, photos of Leinart partying with various women started popping up online, including shots of him holding a beer bong and hot-tubbing with attractive young women in bikinis. Leinart's name started to be linked to women like Paris Hilton, earning him even more unwanted attention.

"He's been through the wringer," Ryan Leinart said.

Still, he stayed focused on the things he really wanted to accomplish off the field.

The Matt Leinart Foundation was the second thing Leinart did after being selected by the Arizona Cardinals 10th overall in the 2006 NFL Draft. The first? He bought his parents a new house and moved them out of the increasingly dangerous Santa Ana neighborhood where he and his brother grew up.

But Leinart didn't leave Santa Ana behind, just like he didn't leave inner-city Los Angeles after he left USC.

The UYFL buses in 200 children from eight schools in Los Angeles and two in Santa Ana, bringing them to Mater Dei High eight Saturdays a year. With a staff of young and old coaches, teams get to compete with one another and gain a better understanding about life and about caring.

"Just being around, what I want them to know is that there are people who care about them," Rivera said. "Some of them don't have parents, and they don't know what a hug is.

"Seeing these coaches flying around, hugging them, getting involved with these kids, that's what this is about."

In addition to gaining a better understanding of football, the children receive tutoring at school and, perhaps most important, medical physicals.

Just this year, doctors discovered undiagnosed cases of juvenile diabetes, high blood pressure and a heart murmur – ailments that potentially could be fatal if untreated.

"When we can see the lives we've saved, that's just huge for us," Ryan Leinart said.

For Matt, who has a 5-year old son, Cole, setting a good example is a big motivation. Leinart shares custody with his son's mother, former USC basketball player Brynn Cameron.

"Matt's an awesome father," Ryan Leinart said. "He's addicted."

Leinart's parental instincts can be seen in his actions on the field during the UYFL. Just like he is with his son, Leinart wants to be on the field with the kids participating, encouraging them and coaching them up.

It's a big part of the reason why Leinart is so hands on when it comes to his foundation.

"It's very easy to always write a check and not find out what the check is for and not get involved," Ryan Leinart said. "If an athlete writes a check, I have nothing but respect for that person, but if an athlete writes a check and wants to find out where it goes and wants to effect changes in kids' lives, to me, that's a special person."

And Matt Leinart said being there at Mater Dei is a huge thing for him.

"Donating your time is as important, if not more important, than donating your money," he said.

And by being there, he has been able to see the differences he's made.

The program has also made an impact on homeless children, including one who caught Leinart's eye. Nicknamed "Sunshine" after the long-haired character in "Remember the Titans," he sleeps in shelters in West Los Angeles. But on Saturdays, he flies around the football field, his hair hanging out of the back of his helmet, and he smiles.

"I don't know how to explain it. I just can't," Leinart said. "I don't even know how to come to terms with it. But the fact that he's here, it's really inspiring to me."

Leinart's NFL future isn't in doubt, but it is clouded with uncertainty. Currently a free agent, Leinart will have to wait until the end of the league lockout to negotiate with any teams. After being released by Arizona last year, Leinart signed a one-year deal with Houston to be the Texans' back-up quarterback, but he did not get on the field.

He hopes to find a team willing to let him compete for the starting job, but regardless of where he is playing, Leinart will still have Santa Ana on his mind, thinking about those Saturdays when he can get out on the field and play football with kids in desperate need of hope and opportunities.

"This is, besides my family and my career, this is right up there at the top," he said. "For me, it's what's it all about, to be in a position to be a positive influence in these kids' lives, to change their lives even in the slightest bit.

"I've seen it have a huge impact over these kids' lives. It's awesome, man. I love it."
 
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Texans first round tendered matty, moves him to the top of the FA class as I said then now and forever. I aint flopping my assessment, some people are damn fools.

I predicted that Leinart would have been a top 10 elite QB for the Cardinals last year, His 130 QB rating 78% completion percentage and outstanding performance ON THE FIELD last year , only made me more concrete on the matter.

I don't know what the hell others was watching! Matt has a 405 yard rookie record game, 200 + yards lots as a rookie, 3 -100 + QB ratings as a rookie, scored 2 TD's in the first 1/4 of his first 2 rookie starts, including MNM against the Best SB Bears defense in many years.

Boys got skills, great all around QB with no glaring weaknesses in any QB skillset, Not the best at any one but top 10 in all of them at prototypical size.

the strongest stupidest voices are not always right. Our team culture sucks and is getting worse. DD deserves top money, Matt needs cut ,crap, has buried us! And we can't get up.

I might blame the players like whiz, If it was not happening, all over the field in every unit O, D and ST! Our players are plummeting in production and value, While the are a first round tender to a team with a top 10 QB.

I assessed that matty would need a year to get acclimated on a new team in a new offense and only be a mid level NFL QB ranked about 15-16 his next year out. But not so in Seattle under Carrol.

he could be top 10 immediately, like He would have been after 5 years in Arizona.

Some peoples Kids?

I was waiting for the J/K...This is some funny stuff right here!!!!

Matty boy will never be a starter in the NFL bank it. He couldn't even take second string from a nobody last year.
 

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I hope like some said above that Matt gets another shot. I wish the guy luck. Hopefully, his experiences have taught him something to this point.
 

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I hope like some said above that Matt gets another shot. I wish the guy luck. Hopefully, his experiences have taught him something to this point.

His experiences have taught him to hire a good PR agent.
 

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Great find and read moklerman, thanks for posting it.

It's hard to root against ML when you read this article.

"But you don't know Matt Leinart, because if you did, you'd know that those things don't matter all that much."

I think this line is spot on and why ML will never be a QB that leads his team to the SB. I for one don't think that's a bad thing unless he is the QB on your team. Having someone who gives back to the community is more important then being a QB in the NFL so follow your true path ML.

The OP was about the Seahawks being interested in ML at this time. Riddle me this, why didn't the Seahawks grab him last year for nothing instead of now having to bargain with the Texans?
 

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Great find and read moklerman, thanks for posting it.

It's hard to root against ML when you read this article.

"But you don't know Matt Leinart, because if you did, you'd know that those things don't matter all that much."

I think this line is spot on and why ML will never be a QB that leads his team to the SB. I for one don't think that's a bad thing unless he is the QB on your team. Having someone who gives back to the community is more important then being a QB in the NFL so follow your true path ML.

The OP was about the Seahawks being interested in ML at this time. Riddle me this, why didn't the Seahawks grab him last year for nothing instead of now having to bargain with the Texans?
I don't know...Warner took immense pride in winning the Man of the Year award and his off the field stuff has always been a big priority. I mean, when talking about the "big picture". I think that's what the author is saying, not that Leinart doesn't care about football. Just that it's secondary to helping underprivileged children.

As to why the Seahawks didn't grab Lienart last year? They had just given up two draft picks to the Chargers to get Whitehurst(God only knows why) and he was supposed to be the heir apparent to Hasslebeck. By the time Leinart was released, it was far too late for the Seahawks to make that kind of move.
 

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I don't know...Warner took immense pride in winning the Man of the Year award and his off the field stuff has always been a big priority. I mean, when talking about the "big picture". I think that's what the author is saying, not that Leinart doesn't care about football. Just that it's secondary to helping underprivileged children.

As to why the Seahawks didn't grab Lienart last year? They had just given up two draft picks to the Chargers to get Whitehurst(God only knows why) and he was supposed to be the heir apparent to Hasslebeck. By the time Leinart was released, it was far too late for the Seahawks to make that kind of move.

I don't believe anyone can mistake the drive and desire that Warner has to win with ML.

Grabbing a PQBOTF for nothing is never a bad thing. Don't care what transpired during the offseason, QB's are gold and a valuable commodity. Who is Seattle's #3 QB? Nuff said.
 

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Nice new insights on Leinart. You have to admire what he's doing away from football and from a personal standpoint, hope he becomes a success on the field as well.

But that doesn't make him right for us - in terms of his own skill set, performance-level or fit within the Cardinal system, culture or offensive philosophy.

Lots of variables go into becoming a successful QB - some driven by the individual himself, others by the team, surrounding cast, fans or individual coaches. Or simply dumb luck (or lack thereof).

I really believe that (although there are some QB's who will thrive anywhere) some guys who are successful in one team-environment would likely flounder in a different one ( & vice versa - sometimes a bust will blossom into a rose on a different team).

Add to this the Branch Rickey observation that "luck is the residue of design" and, of course, you'll find certain teams and coaches who (the way Penn St. turns out LB's) consistently manufacture winning QB's. That counts for something.

Bottom line - In finding the guy to lead your team, there are no set rules - you just try to tilt the odds in your favor by doing the best you can to evaluate and acquire good talent, hire the right coaches, develop the young man the right way and install an offense that gives him the best chance to succeed.

Even then, you'll need to at least break even luck-wise..
 

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Nice new insights on Leinart. You have to admire what he's doing away from football and from a personal standpoint, hope he becomes a success on the field as well.

But that doesn't make him right for us - in terms of his own skill set, performance-level or fit within the Cardinal system, culture or offensive philosophy.

Lots of variables go into becoming a successful QB - some driven by the individual himself, others by the team, surrounding cast, fans or individual coaches. Or simply dumb luck (or lack thereof).

I really believe that (although there are some QB's who will thrive anywhere) some guys who are successful in one team-environment would likely flounder in a different one ( & vice versa - sometimes a bust will blossom into a rose on a different team).

Add to this the Branch Rickey observation that "luck is the residue of design" and, of course, you'll find certain teams and coaches who (the way Penn St. turns out LB's) consistently manufacture winning QB's. That counts for something.

Bottom line - In finding the guy to lead your team, there are no set rules - you just try to tilt the odds in your favor by doing the best you can to evaluate and acquire good talent, hire the right coaches, develop the young man the right way and install an offense that gives him the best chance to succeed.

Even then, you'll need to at least break even luck-wise..

I dont think it's luck, but rather, discovering that fire and enhancing his mental skills, which could make him a successful QB. I said this yesterday. He has the physical talents, but lacks the drive, confidence, leadership skills and maturity required to succeed in that position.

He could have been successful in AZ had he had the mental toughness to shake off the detractors. Aaron Rodgers was in a similar situation when he replaced. Fans went as far as to tell Rodgers, "we don't love you." This was from a 6-year old boy. Didn't matter to him. He put up gaudy numbers and won a Superbowl. No big deal :D

Leinart can continue to do interviews to sugar coat the situation and make everyone think he is ready to lead a team, but he needs to make good on his promise and be the Leinart he was at USC and parts of his rookie season. Perhaps Seattle is a good fit because Carrol knows how to turn on that switch.
 

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His experiences have taught him to hire a good PR agent.

I applaud the community work Matt is doing but....

Bristol and Segerstrom is NOT a rough area. Nice big houses, built in the 70's, in a nice, almost upper middle-class part of town. Nobody's got bars on the windows. The vatos and the gangbangers aren't lurking on the corner. I don't know who decided it was a good idea to make it look like Matt grew up in the hood but I just spit my coffee all over the computer screen.
 
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He has the physical talents, but lacks the drive, confidence, leadership skills and maturity required to succeed in that position.
I think maturity has been what most feel his biggest shortcoming has always been. If so, perhaps he is "getting it" more than before? Maturing.
Bristol and Segerstrom is NOT a rough area. Nice big houses, built in the 70's, in a nice, almost upper middle-class part of town. Nobody's got bars on the windows. The vatos and the gangbangers aren't lurking on the corner. I don't know who decided it was a good idea to make it look like Matt grew up in the hood but I just spit my coffee all over the computer screen.
I don't think that's fair. Whether or not his neighborhood is gang central, the experience he and his brother had was reality to them. Plus, it's "his" neighborhood. That's sort of where all players tend to try and help. Where they grew up.
 

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I don't think that's fair. Whether or not his neighborhood is gang central, the experience he and his brother had was reality to them. Plus, it's "his" neighborhood. That's sort of where all players tend to try and help. Where they grew up.

It's just sort of an eye roll for those of us who grew up in and know MUCH worse neighborhoods in Orange County. (My brother burst out laughing when I told him this over the phone.)

I'll give Matt credit for one BIG thing. The kids he has coming to his league are not from the neighborhood he grew up in. They're from the really rough parts of SoCal. (I've known about what he's doing for a while.) And he's taking kids in from the neighborhood around Mater Dei. Not a lovely place to live. I'll absolutely give him a thumbs up for that.
 
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I says again the strongest stupidest voices are not always right.

You can say that again.

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As far as why not Seattle last year, Reggie Bush and ripping away of a NCAA Championship is why!

Ok Guys you know my view, grade. Whiz just dropped a bomb on a KTAR read about being stupid about QB last year, but He will not admit, even though he screwed Matt and punked him every chance he got, like Beanie.


Dansby, Rolle, Q couldn't get away fast enough. and it was not about money. Whiz has this idea that only the strong survive, and he has to pressure his players into submission to get the best out of them.

Well all other coaches have integrity and dignity and show it to their players, even star players. They don't kick em in the nuts constantly and "see how they respond to adversity" They don't humiliate Deuce like Whiz did.

Sorry guys that belongs in the locker room, and these players stay the hell away from Whiz's open door policy, If they want to play.
 

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I can't bash Leinart at all for anything. He got caught behind one of the greatest performances of all time by a QB.

Kurt Warner, at 37 years old, took us to the Super Bowl despite a Defense that gave up 426 points, only 8 fewer than last season, and a run game that finished dead last in attempts and yards per game. Gaining even fewer yards per game than they did last season.

I wonder if any team has ever been to the SB without having a single RB average 40 yards per game or averaging less than 80 yards rushing.

Thank you Kurt, Q and Fitz.
 

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I can't bash Leinart at all for anything. He got caught behind one of the greatest performances of all time by a QB.

Kurt Warner, at 37 years old, took us to the Super Bowl despite a Defense that gave up 426 points, only 8 fewer than last season, and a run game that finished dead last in attempts and yards per game. Gaining even fewer yards per game than they did last season.

I wonder if any team has ever been to the SB without having a single RB average 40 yards per game or averaging less than 80 yards rushing.

Thank you Kurt, Q and Fitz.

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I think it's strange that some people think Matt is going to be successful, yet give Kolb no chance. They both could end up good or both stink. Kolb was kind of in the same sitaution where he was the starter, went down, and the other guy came in and played lights out. The difference is Kolb didn't get cut for the likes of Scud, Hall, and Skelton.
 

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I like Kolb

I like Kolb, but He is way unproven, 7 games? hurt? is not as cool in the pocket as ML. more Jake plummerish, great in crisis, sucks in a normal set with hings going right. Kolbs starting debut was not close to the way Matty started out, record breaking.

When and all is said and done and folks are done screaming at me for being an idiot. We cut a Franchise QB, for no good reason, that Kubiak values as a 1st round tender and Carrol is considering giving Seattle's first round pick for, to kick our AZ for the next several years.

While We haven't got a clue about the QB position, Chris Miller has never came close to coaching, much less developing a QB. Mike miller promoted to OC, after placing near last in the NFL as a stupid PGC.

Whiz has abandoned the run in play calling, has not drafted anybody that we could trade for a first round pick in the last 5 years, everybody He has drafted has lost value and developed into a piece of crap or underachieved.

Whiz has re signed only drafted Cardinals DD, Fitz and AW in 5 years. His FA acquisitions are a laughable, Our new DC said it took him a whole year to get the Cardinal out of Mcfad! WE had him for less than a year! Horton took him back to the SB!

And Whiz and Graves refuse too bring in any outside brains, Horton should help, I give them credit for that. I hope Pittsburg don't have to take Horton back and wring the Cardinal out of him next year!

I love my Cardinals, But I don't like their behavior. I just gotta say it as I see it, hoping I'm wrong. If WE follow our normal pattern we'll trade Beanie for Kolb. and get the worse end of the deal.

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I think it's strange that some people think Matt is going to be successful, yet give Kolb no chance. They both could end up good or both stink. Kolb was kind of in the same sitaution where he was the starter, went down, and the other guy came in and played lights out. The difference is Kolb didn't get cut for the likes of Scud, Hall, and Skelton.
 

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We cut a Franchise QB, for no good reason, that Kubiak values as a 1st round tender and Carrol is considering giving Seattle's first round pick for, to kick our AZ for the next several years.

We're still talking Leinart, right? This comment isn't meant for some other board and some other QB?

You do remember that the Cards tried to trade Leinart for a nickle and a stick of gum and NOBODY was interested? That when he finally signed with a team, they got him for minimum wage and he couldn't beat out their 2nd string QB? And you know that a 1st round tender means dick and all at this point of the non-season?

I think it's great that Matt visited Seattle ("Hey! You guys need a quarterback? I'd like to be a quarterback!") but nobody is gonna offer a 1st for a player that is, at this moment, considered a huge bust. I hope ML gets a chance to play somewhere, somehow, and I'm confident he will be adequate when the opportunity arises. No more than that.
 
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Ok Guys you know my view, grade. Whiz just dropped a bomb on a KTAR read about being stupid about QB last year, but He will not admit, even though he screwed Matt and punked him every chance he got, like Beanie.

Dansby, Rolle, Q couldn't get away fast enough. and it was not about money. Whiz has this idea that only the strong survive, and he has to pressure his players into submission to get the best out of them.

Well all other coaches have integrity and dignity and show it to their players, even star players. They don't kick em in the nuts constantly and "see how they respond to adversity" They don't humiliate Deuce like Whiz did.

Sorry guys that belongs in the locker room, and these players stay the hell away from Whiz's open door policy, If they want to play.
Question for the writer - Are you a player? A coach? Have locker-room credentials? Because your comments seem to be coming from an insider.

Those are pretty strong accusations (ones not commonly aired). Were your comments about "pressuring players into submission", "screwing and punking Matt and Beanie", "kicking 'em in the nuts", "humiliating Deuce" & "staying the hell away from Wiz's open door policy" borne out of (a) in-person experience, (b) gleaned from the headlines, (c) based on "something you heard somewhere" or (d) the product of speculation on your part?

They sounded like they came from someone inside who has a personal axe to grind. Without revealing anything that could compromise your situation - on what facts or experiences are you basing your comments.
 
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Question for the writer - Are you a player? A coach? Have locker-room credentials? Because your comments seem to be coming from an insider.

Those are pretty strong accusations (ones not commonly aired). Were your comments about "pressuring players into submission", "screwing and punking Matt and Beanie", "kicking 'em in the nuts", "humiliating Deuce" & "staying the hell away from Wiz's open door policy" borne out of (a) in-person experience, (b) gleaned from the headlines, (c) based on "something you heard somewhere" or (d) the product of speculation on your part?

They sounded like they came from someone inside who has a personal axe to grind. Without revealing anything that could compromise your situation - on what facts or experiences are you basing your comments.

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I seen it on tv

Read it on the cards site over the years!

You seen edge complain? What happened? He went from NFL royalty to a piece of crap

Q recruited edge, what happened to q? Seems to have a good stories and high character....: elsewher, and under Denny

Matt, r wells, the list is on and on not just Eric green and mcfad

But that and mike Adams have a job, must be nice to be starters, haha

Whiz hasn't hid it ! Where have you seEn anything else?

Other teams and coaches do not act like this! Name one?



UOTE=JeffGollin;2451386]Question for the writer - Are you a player? A coach? Have locker-room credentials? Because your comments seem to be coming from an insider.

Those are pretty strong accusations (ones not commonly aired). Were your comments about "pressuring players into submission", "screwing and punking Matt and Beanie", "kicking 'em in the nuts", "humiliating Deuce" & "staying the hell away from Wiz's open door policy" borne out of (a) in-person experience, (b) gleaned from the headlines, (c) based on "something you heard somewhere" or (d) the product of speculation on your part?

They sounded like they came from someone inside who has a personal axe to grind. Without revealing anything that could compromise your situation - on what facts or experiences are you basing your comments.
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Read it on the cards site over the years!

You seen edge complain? What happened? He went from NFL royalty to a piece of crap

Q recruited edge, what happened to q? Seems to have a good stories and high character....: elsewher, and under Denny

Matt, r wells, the list is on and on not just Eric green and mcfad

But that and mike Adams have a job, must be nice to be starters, haha

Whiz hasn't hid it ! Where have you seEn anything else?

Other teams and coaches do not act like this! Name one?

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Ok some of what you say maybe true but here is a different look.
Edge was old and he was running behind a much inferior line compared to the Colts, so he complained. If he was so good why doesn't he have a job somewhere?
Leinart, I completely agree, Whis handled it poorly, but he does have issues with big name QB alla Ben Roethlisberger.
Quan, had more issues with Haley than Whis and got an oppurtunity to go be the man in Baltimore, good on him and good luck.
Rolle thought he was bigger than the D and wanted a big payday. He is an upgrade for the G Men, but honestly Rhodes is far superior to him.
Eric Green had his best years hhere and isn't around anymore.
McFadden was asked to play zone too much, not his strong suite and got the opp to go back to where he felt more loved. Good on him.
Adams is legit, regardless of his size he makes tackles and can cover and is a good ST player. HE IS NOT A STARTER on this team, nickel is not starting.
I am far more critical of Whis and the Cardinals personel decisions rather than his coaching style.

Oh by the way REX RYAN treats his players the same way maybe worse, read his book. Also there are other coaches who have similar styles.
 

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Read it on the cards site over the years!

You seen edge complain? What happened? He went from NFL royalty to a piece of crap

Q recruited edge, what happened to q? Seems to have a good stories and high character....: elsewher, and under Denny

Matt, r wells, the list is on and on not just Eric green and mcfad

But that and mike Adams have a job, must be nice to be starters, haha

Whiz hasn't hid it ! Where have you seEn anything else?

Other teams and coaches do not act like this! Name one?


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