McCarthy to Browns

[NJCardFan]

Yeah only took 18 years to be 7-8-1

They've had 2 winning seasons since reinstatement. 2002, 2007. 1 playoff game in 2002 and they lost to Tommy Maddox and the Stealers. Take a guess who their OC was that year.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

BA was the OC

 

[Chopper0080]

That’s cool we shall see. So a big comeback & throwing the ball all over the field against a tough Ravens D doesn’t count? Lol

I think what’s makes them contenders is that Stealers are at the end with no apparent QBOTF, the Bugles are the Bungles & the Ravens are hoping on LJ becoming a better passer. The Bolts & Pats are at the end with Rivers & the Goat as well. The AFC is fast changing & will look so much different very very shortly.

Mayfield is a freaking stud & only going to get better. Brownies are loaded & on the verge, and a very attractive gig for a new HC. If they somehow land Lincoln Riley, watch out Chop lol

Game tape and fame can impact young players a ton. I think the Browns could be in the playoff hunt next year if they progress, but Mayfield isn't going to evolve a ton. He is not going to become taller or more athletic. He isn't going to develop a stronger arm. His progress will be determined by his ability to become as disciplined of a player as Brees and Russ Willson who are/were both more athletic.. I don;t know that he has that in him.

 

[Buckybird]

Game tape and fame can impact young players a ton. I think the Browns could be in the playoff hunt next year if they progress, but Mayfield isn't going to evolve a ton. He is not going to become taller or more athletic. He isn't going to develop a stronger arm. His progress will be determined by his ability to become as disciplined of a player as Brees and Russ Willson who are/were both more athletic.. I don;t know that he has that in him.

You know what he has that makes him great? Doubters who doubt his ability & talent, arm strength, size, a chip on his shoulder & huge desire to be great!!! He’s got the “it” factor that many don’t.

I still remember many here saying the same things about Russell Wilson lol

Btw it still kills me people doubt his arm talent when games & the people in the business talk about how good his arm is.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Mayfield is the real deal...

 

[Chopper0080]

You know what he has that makes him great? Doubters who doubt his ability & talent, arm strength, size, a chip on his shoulder & huge desire to be great!!! He’s got the “it” factor that many don’t.

I still remember many here saying the same things about Russell Wilson lol

Russ was and is more athletic and much more disciplined. "It factor" is Tim Tebow garbage. If Mayfield can evolve into a disciplined grinder, he can elevate the team. If not, he is an average QB.

Again, I am not saying that Mayfield can't be successful, but Andy Dalton can be successful in this league. Same with Dak Prescott. I think he is more talented than those guys. That being said, he has to become a very disciplined player in order to take the next step and I am not sure it is in his nature.

 

[Chopper0080]

Mayfield is the real deal...

Making definitive conclusions on rookie QBs after one season is a great way to look like a donkey in the future. The NFL adjusts...quickly. He has a very successful season despite organizational turmoil. He is going to have to progress in order to get better, and there are only so many ways he is going to be able to improve. His knock in the draft was high floor, low ceiling. It still applies.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Making definitive conclusions on rookie QBs after one season is a great way to look like a donkey in the future. The NFL adjusts...quickly. He has a very successful season despite organizational turmoil. He is going to have to progress in order to get better, and there are only so many ways he is going to be able to improve. His knock in the draft was high floor, low ceiling. It still applies.

I disagree, I think Mayfield has a great career:

https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/f...-that-made-me-a-believer.255982/#post-3599030

 

[PACardsFan]

Making definitive conclusions on rookie QBs after one season is a great way to look like a donkey in the future. The NFL adjusts...quickly. He has a very successful season despite organizational turmoil. He is going to have to progress in order to get better, and there are only so many ways he is going to be able to improve. His knock in the draft was high floor, low ceiling. It still applies.

I agree that it's way too soon to crown his a$$. Do I like Mayfield? Absolutely! Do I think he's the real deal? Absolutely! BUT, we have all been wrong at times when we slap a "can't miss" label on a guy after 1 year. I love watching the kid play, and hope he plays 15 years. But...………………….……...

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Rick Mirer was the real deal after his rookie year ..lol

Let's reevaluate in another year or two.

He's on the right tract, so far, though.

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[PACardsFan]

Let's not forget RG3.

 

[GatorAZ]

Baker was oldest QB in this class by two years. Would I take him based on what we’ve seen so far, yes, but these things can’t be set in stone after one year.