MCU: Captain America: Brave New World

[Stout]

I’m intrigued by Thunderbolts, but only because I love Florence Pugh and think her Elena character is one of the only good new ones in the universe (along with Shang-Chi).

I love quite a few of them. Hers, Bucky, Ladyhawke (can't remember her real name), Red Guardian, and maybe even Zemo. This movie just seems fun.

 

[Devilmaycare]

Man… has any franchise ever coasted on the goodwill Marvel’s bought itself with everything leading up to Endgame? By most accounts, very few people dig Mackie as Cap, the movie is apparently super mid and the brand alone still drags this to a 100 million dollar opening.

It’ll fall like a rock next week, but impressive considering everything.

My question is this though… what if the next two years of movies don’t work? Will Thunderbolts actually be a hit? Dubious. F4 I can see being a decent hit if it’s just decent. But what if the whole RDJ as Doom thing doesn’t work and people don’t go gaga over this new batch of Avengers?

The weekend 2 numbers are going to be interesting to see with the word of mouth on it. Week 1 is still living off of the legacy like you mentioned. So do we see a 70+% drop like with most of the phase 4 movies or can it have better legs?

For your question, I think the next 2 years might be rough and that it'll lead to a soft reboot where they reset a bunch of the narrative mistakes they've made to try to get back on track. I don't think Thunderbolts will a huge hit and I'm really not sure on FF. My gut is saying Love and Thunder type of numbers but I could see it breaking a bit higher if things hit right. I'm skeptical of that though.

 

[Stout]

Man, a reboot would be dumb. Hard pass.

 

[Devilmaycare]

Man, a reboot would be dumb. Hard pass.

A full one yes, I think they need to do a bit of a soft one though where they mainly get rid of the multiverse. It was a bad move to make and they need to correct it. It's lazy writing since it makes for no real stakes and everything can be undone.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The weekend 2 numbers are going to be interesting to see with the word of mouth on it. Week 1 is still living off of the legacy like you mentioned. So do we see a 70+% drop like with most of the phase 4 movies or can it have better legs?

For your question, I think the next 2 years might be rough and that it'll lead to a soft reboot where they reset a bunch of the narrative mistakes they've made to try to get back on track. I don't think Thunderbolts will a huge hit and I'm really not sure on FF. My gut is saying Love and Thunder type of numbers but I could see it breaking a bit higher if things hit right. I'm skeptical of that though.

They’d prob be over the moon with Love And Thunder money from F4.

 

[oaken1]

They’d prob be over the moon with Love And Thunder money from F4.

Agree. I'm a huge F4 fan and this edition looks like the biggest F4 flop yet

 

[Dan H]

A full one yes, I think they need to do a bit of a soft one though where they mainly get rid of the multiverse. It was a bad move to make and they need to correct it. It's lazy writing since it makes for no real stakes and everything can be undone.

That's pretty much implied with the upcoming Secret Wars storyline.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Agree. I'm a huge F4 fan and this edition looks like the biggest F4 flop yet

Interesting. I’m not a big F4 guy, but I think this will easily be the biggest success over the previous two abominable attempts at starting the franchise.

 

[oaken1]

Interesting. I’m not a big F4 guy, but I think this will easily be the biggest success over the previous two abominable attempts at starting the franchise.

The first one was better than the last one.
But with this one I just can't get past what they did to Ben Grimms voice

 

[GatorAZ]

The Ringer ppl are panning this movie. Sounds like a mess with the bad CGI and reshoots.