Melo officially a Knick!

[jagu]

At this point, I don't think that fitting in nice with Nash should be criteria for a trade. If management is still building around Nash, then we are in some real trouble.

I think he'd be a decent fit without Nash as well. He's also a good player to add as a player we can package for something better.

 

[JCSunsfan]

At this point, I don't think that fitting in nice with Nash should be criteria for a trade. If management is still building around Nash, then we are in some real trouble.

Our focus right now should be on obtaining some sort of "big three" for the future. We need star caliber players.

I do not mind gathering young assets that can be used in trade. But the goal has to be the big guns.

I doubt Gortat can be one of that type of trio. Suns brass has alot of work ahead.

 

[Magnus]

I definitely agree on the Gallinari trade. I don't think he'll be a good fit in Denver, and it would be a great chance to trade for him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Portland is now openly trying to move Miller and Camby. I could see those two as a fit for Atlanta. I wonder if we could get in on a three way deal there.

Maybe we could do:

Camby, Lopez, 2 1st rounders (from Phoenix) and a second rounder (from Portland) to Atlanta
Josh Smith to Phoenix
Warrick, Childress, and Teague to Portland

Atlanta gets a very good older C and a young prospect C along with picks to go along side Horford.

Phoenix gets its star caliber pf

Portland gets some younger talent for Camby, which is what they say they want.


At that point, we would be looking at picking up a quality starting sg (Richardson?) in the off season.

 

[Mainstreet]

I definitely agree on the Gallinari trade. I don't think he'll be a good fit in Denver, and it would be a great chance to trade for him.

The word is the Nuggets are not making Gallinari available.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211278/Denver_Not_Making_Gallinari_Available

 

[Chaplin]

Portland is now openly trying to move Miller and Camby. I could see those two as a fit for Atlanta. I wonder if we could get in on a three way deal there.

That's a tough one, salaries are hard to match up for the 3 teams.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That's a tough one, salaries are hard to match up for the 3 teams.

Just updated that post with an idea that works salary-wise. Not that proposed trades on boards count for anything but a conversation.

 

[slinslin]

Matching salaries in a 3-way really isn't harder than in a 2-way trade. Actually often it is easier because more pieces are available and also often the 15% margin is bigger.

 

[Chaplin]

Matching salaries in a 3-way really isn't harder than in a 2-way trade. Actually often it is easier because more pieces are available and also often the 15% margin is bigger.

It's tough for those 3 teams SPECIFICALLY. Since you are the all-knowing god of basketball, why don't you grace us with something? Then again, you'll just turn everything into a negative like you always do.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It's tough for those 3 teams SPECIFICALLY. Since you are the all-knowing god of basketball, why don't you grace us with something? Then again, you'll just turn everything into a negative like you always do.

Camby, Lopez, 2 1st rounders (from Phoenix) and a second rounder (from Portland) to Atlanta
Josh Smith to Phoenix
Warrick, Childress, and Teague to Portland

Atlanta gets a very good older C and a young prospect C along with picks to go along side Horford.

Phoenix gets its star caliber pf

Portland gets some younger talent for Camby, which is what they say they want.

 

[Chaplin]

Camby, Lopez, 2 1st rounders (from Phoenix) and a second rounder (from Portland) to Atlanta
Josh Smith to Phoenix
Warrick, Childress, and Teague to Portland

Atlanta gets a very good older C and a young prospect C along with picks to go along side Horford.

Phoenix gets its star caliber pf

Portland gets some younger talent for Camby, which is what they say they want.

So you'd give up both our first rounders, Childress, Warrick and Lopez for Josh Smith? Sorry, but that's WAAAAAAAY too much.

And I doubt Portland would be happy with any of those guys except Teague, even if they are younger.

 

[JCSunsfan]

So you'd give up both our first rounders, Childress, Warrick and Lopez for Josh Smith? Sorry, but that's WAAAAAAAY too much.

And I doubt Portland would be happy with any of those guys except Teague, even if they are younger.

I probably would. Usually I get accused of being to much of a homer in trade proposals, so I tried to compensate.

 

[Chaplin]

I probably would. Usually I get accused of being to much of a homer in trade proposals, so I tried to compensate.

Even then, it's too much. Josh Smith would be nice, but he's not worth that much. Heck, he's only Atlanta's 3rd best player after all.

 

[elindholm]

So you'd give up both our first rounders, Childress, Warrick and Lopez for Josh Smith? Sorry, but that's WAAAAAAAY too much.

I'm not sure why. Warrick has about zero value and Childress's value is negative. So it's Lopez and two late first-round picks for Smith. It's probably an overpayment, but not a severe one.

And I doubt Portland would be happy with any of those guys except Teague, even if they are younger.

That's for sure. Portland wants good young players, not just mediocre guys who happen to be early in their careers. There's no chance that they'll give up expiring contracts in order to take on Warrick's and Childress's long deals.

 

[sunsfan88]

We ASKED for Noah and Chicago said no, not the other way around. And please give a link about Portland offering Aldridge. I don't remember hearing that at all.

"The deal Portland was discussing with Phoenix involved LaMarcus Aldridge, Jerryd Bayless, and Raef LaFrentz's $12.7 million expiring contract."

Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_...-portland-fails-heat-takes-lead#ixzz1EjZehqMi
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Also ask around, many here know about the Alridge thing.

 

[sunsfan88]

Camby, Lopez, 2 1st rounders (from Phoenix) and a second rounder (from Portland) to Atlanta
Josh Smith to Phoenix
Warrick, Childress, and Teague to Portland

Atlanta gets a very good older C and a young prospect C along with picks to go along side Horford.

Phoenix gets its star caliber pf

Portland gets some younger talent for Camby, which is what they say they want.

You do realize Suns have to have at least 1st rd pick for the 2011 NBA draft right?

Its against NBA rules to not have 1st rd picks for consecutive years.

 

[Evil Ash]

You do realize Suns have to have at least 1st rd pick for the 2011 NBA draft right?

Its against NBA rules to not have 1st rd picks for consecutive years.

There's an easy workaround with that with the ever so famous "player to be named later"

 

[AzStevenCal]

There's an easy workaround with that with the ever so famous "player to be named later"

I don't think it works that way in the NBA. It doesn't matter though because the Stepien rule only limits your ability to trade future picks in consecutive years. Even if you've traded away each of the last 10 first rounders, you can still trade this years pick as long as you hold the rights to a first round pick next year. The rule only prohibits trading future consecutive picks.

Steve

 

[Covert Rain]

The Knicks will be better IMO. Not only did they get Melo but they received Billups which IMO is frosting on the cake.

IMO, no doubt this team is better after the trade.

 

[Errntknght]

You do realize Suns have to have at least 1st rd pick for the 2011 NBA draft right?

Its against NBA rules to not have 1st rd picks for consecutive years.

Actually, that is not the rule at all. Years in the past never count in this rule, which is: a team may not have two consecutive future years without a first round pick.

Edit: Sorry about this as Steve already set it straight.

 

[mojorizen7]

Good trade for NY i think. Getting Melo,Billups & Corey Brewer in there. I'll be interested in how patient D'Antoni is with Brewer's inconsistent(but improving) offensive game. Both Billups and Brewer can play defense so,if DA can evolve his flawed philosophy a bit,NY could make a nice run IMO.

However if DA continues to run the same ole same ole.....they wont even sniff a title no matter who they bring in....unless of course the NBA changes the way they officiate playoff basketball.

 

[BC867]

However if DA continues to run the same ole same ole.....they wont even sniff a title no matter who they bring in....unless of course the NBA changes the way they officiate playoff basketball.

You never know how Stern will advise the refs handling Knicks playoff games.

The New York metropolitan area is a very major market. Revenue from fans, revenue from TV.

 

[leclerc]

Psychologically, Amare has peed on the bushes in New York, so Carmelo will be joining his team. Personality wise, Melo is no match for Amar'e either. So they will probably get along fine with one basketball.

With Stoudemire leading the Knicks with 8.6 rebounds per game, Carmelo's 7.6 will be the second highest on the team. That shouldn't hurt the Knicks either.

But it looks like replacing Felton's 9.0 team leading assists with Billups' 5.3 will hurt the Knicks. Do you guys have any ideas about that?

Not to mention what their +/- will look like sharing the ball.

 

[jibikao]

You never know how Stern will advise the refs handling Knicks playoff games.

The New York metropolitan area is a very major market. Revenue from fans, revenue from TV.

True da. I heard on howard stern show that knick's ticket price has gone up too after the trade!

Funny, I never think Melo is "that" good. I thought he is pretty overrated. He is pretty inconsistent and I only see him as a good offense player. Hell, I think Lebron's defense is better than him.

 

[jagu]

I'm with jibikao, I think he is overrated, always have and still do. He is a good player but he scores a lot because he is hoisting up 19.5 attempts per game. Not only that, in the top 10 players in FGA per game, he has the lowest shooting percentage among them. In the top 40 players in FGA per game, only 5 players are shooting a lower percentage than he is. Let's not even get into his defense or lack thereof.