MHJ is actually good and will get better

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I know the negativity will never end here but to those who are subconsciously succumbing to the boards’ relentless whimpers of massive disappointment in Harrison…. Stop.

We aren’t in the playoffs. The team faded, yet again, down the stretch. Murray didn’t mystically all of the sudden become Mahomes. Harrison, though def not perfect and not the iron-clad immediate HOFer that some expected, actually had a damn good year and showed a ton of promise. No, he wasn’t the best rookie this year, let alone this decade. He’s got work to put in as far as beating press coverage, coming back to the ball, fighting to win contested catches and breaking tackles, amongst plenty of other things. He did, however have a better statistical year than plenty of other guys who turned out to be good. His size, speed, agility, work ethic, intelligence and character, all main components to the consensus high opinion of him pre-draft, were just as good as expected.

The results of my 2-1/2 minute google search showed his first year to be better than that of:
Fitz
Marvin Harrison Sr
Tyreek Hill
Cooper Kupp
Devonte Adams
Ceedee Lamb
Deandre Hopkins
Stefon Diggs
Deebo Samuel

Maybe he’ll never as good be Amon-ta St Brown, Jamar Chase or Malik Nabers. Time will tell. This season, however, was not a sign that he can’t be. Chase was reunited with his college quarterback, St Brown had a rookie RB and a not yet great Hockenson as the only other weapons and Nabers was option 1-5 for New York this year. None of those three had 1 let alone 2 other offensive skill position players as good as McBride or Conner to compete with for looks and touches their rookie year. Jaylen Waddle had 100+ catches and 1000+ yards his rookie year when his running back was my Uncle Remis’ plumber and the only other WR whose name people know was Devante Parker. The following offseason, the team signed Tyreek Hill. Waddle played more games and more snaps in 2022 but finished with 30 less catches. Since then, his receptions have dropped ever year. His yardage increased the next year but, I think it’s fair to say, that was due in part due to Hill’s presence and Waddle having a year of NFL experience under his belt to help exploit the defenses not prioritizing him. This stuff could be spun multiple ways, I know.
 

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Agreed. MHJ had a very good rookie season, just not up to our massive expectations.
Well, to be fair, he was the one "doing things differently" (skipping the combine, no pro day, etc.). He told us about his special insight and advice from his father who played in the league and how that was going to give him an advantage and he would be an instant pro WR from day one...blah, blah, blah.

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Just another rookie.
 

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I was disappointed in his contested catch abilities. He made some excellent boundaries catches. At this time Nabers appears to be the more explosive and dynamic WR.
 

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MHJ seems very dedicated to his craft and I’m sure he will look to improve on all his deficiencies we are pointing out
 

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I know the negativity will never end here but to those who are subconsciously succumbing to the boards’ relentless whimpers of massive disappointment in Harrison…. Stop.

We aren’t in the playoffs. The team faded, yet again, down the stretch. Murray didn’t mystically all of the sudden become Mahomes. Harrison, though def not perfect and not the iron-clad immediate HOFer that some expected, actually had a damn good year and showed a ton of promise. No, he wasn’t the best rookie this year, let alone this decade. He’s got work to put in as far as beating press coverage, coming back to the ball, fighting to win contested catches and breaking tackles, amongst plenty of other things. He did, however have a better statistical year than plenty of other guys who turned out to be good. His size, speed, agility, work ethic, intelligence and character, all main components to the consensus high opinion of him pre-draft, were just as good as expected.

The results of my 2-1/2 minute google search showed his first year to be better than that of:
Fitz
Marvin Harrison Sr
Tyreek Hill
Cooper Kupp
Devonte Adams
Ceedee Lamb
Deandre Hopkins
Stefon Diggs
Deebo Samuel

Maybe he’ll never as good be Amon-ta St Brown, Jamar Chase or Malik Nabers. Time will tell. This season, however, was not a sign that he can’t be. Chase was reunited with his college quarterback, St Brown had a rookie RB and a not yet great Hockenson as the only other weapons and Nabers was option 1-5 for New York this year. None of those three had 1 let alone 2 other offensive skill position players as good as McBride or Conner to compete with for looks and touches their rookie year. Jaylen Waddle had 100+ catches and 1000+ yards his rookie year when his running back was my Uncle Remis’ plumber and the only other WR whose name people know was Devante Parker. The following offseason, the team signed Tyreek Hill. Waddle played more games and more snaps in 2022 but finished with 30 less catches. Since then, his receptions have dropped ever year. His yardage increased the next year but, I think it’s fair to say, that was due in part due to Hill’s presence and Waddle having a year of NFL experience under his belt to help exploit the defenses not prioritizing him. This stuff could be spun multiple ways, I know.


I don't know how anybody with a straight face can say his speed was as good as expected? The whole year the only deep balls he got were plays where someone fell down and left him wide open. The one thing everyone has said about him this year is he looked faster in college than he did in the NFL. I suspect it's a combo of him thinking too much, and he's not very physical and NFL CB's didn't just let him run downfield, they weren't afraid of chucking him coming off the LOS.

I thought he had a good year, not nearly as good as I expected or the team needed. Wasn't all his fault, but it's reality he wasn't as good as we needed him to be.
 

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I think this MHJ bashing is a joke TBH.
He ranked as the 10th best rookie by cbs and 11th best rookie by pff - yet people are disappointed because two other rookie WR did better.

The fact that two other rookies produced more had no impact on MHJ's development.

Nabers was the #1 weapon on his team, Thomas was the #1 weapon on his team. MHJ was the #3 weapon on his team.

He outperformed basicly all elite WRs as a rookie.

Chill! Relax! Nothing indicates that he will not be an elite WR
 

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A majority of the disappointment comes from the ‘Hold The Line’ folks that didn’t watch him in college.
 

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I think this MHJ bashing is a joke TBH.
He ranked as the 10th best rookie by cbs and 11th best rookie by pff - yet people are disappointed because two other rookie WR did better.

The fact that two other rookies produced more had no impact on MHJ's development.

Nabers was the #1 weapon on his team, Thomas was the #1 weapon on his team. MHJ was the #3 weapon on his team.

He outperformed basicly all elite WRs as a rookie.

Chill! Relax! Nothing indicates that he will not be an elite WR
For the 4th overall pick to be at best, the 4th best receiver drafted is not good by any standard. He didn't at all look like what we were expecting. He was touted as a plug and play #1 receiver!

Not polished, not good at all on 50/50 balls, not aggressive. He had OK stats, and an OK year. He has a long way to go to live up to the expectations set.

Let's try to be at least a little bit realistic here.
 

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For the 4th overall pick to be at best, the 4th best receiver drafted is not good by any standard. He didn't at all look like what we were expecting. He was touted as a plug and play #1 receiver!

Not polished, not good at all on 50/50 balls, not aggressive. He had OK stats, and an OK year. He has a long way to go to live up to the expectations set.

Let's try to be at least a little bit realistic here.
MHJ is not responsible for your personal expectations
 

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I think this MHJ bashing is a joke TBH.
He ranked as the 10th best rookie by cbs and 11th best rookie by pff - yet people are disappointed because two other rookie WR did better.

The fact that two other rookies produced more had no impact on MHJ's development.

Nabers was the #1 weapon on his team, Thomas was the #1 weapon on his team. MHJ was the #3 weapon on his team.

He outperformed basicly all elite WRs as a rookie.

Chill! Relax! Nothing indicates that he will not be an elite WR
More than 2
 

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For the 4th overall pick to be at best, the 4th best receiver drafted is not good by any standard. He didn't at all look like what we were expecting. He was touted as a plug and play #1 receiver!

Not polished, not good at all on 50/50 balls, not aggressive. He had OK stats, and an OK year. He has a long way to go to live up to the expectations set.

Let's try to be at least a little bit realistic here.

The fact is he was a rookie and still put up very solid numbers.

He was a top 30 WR in receiving yards (885 yards)

He was a top 15 WR in Receiving TD (8)

Those receiving yard numbers will most likely only go up as he gets more experience in the NFL and spends more time with Murray.

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The fact is he was a rookie and still put up very solid numbers.

He was a top 30 WR in receiving yards (885 yards)

He was a top 15 WR in Receiving TD (8)

Those receiving yard numbers will most likely only go up as he gets more experience in the NFL and spends more time with Murray.

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Nobody is denying he had a solid season or even debating that.

Based on his profile/pedigree, the expectations were that he'd be more NFL ready, better at 50-50 balls, and perform more like a #1.

Nobody is saying he won't be good or that he's a failure. I don't see why this is so hard to understand.
 

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Based on his profile/pedigree, the expectations were that he'd be more NFL ready, better at 50-50 balls, and perform more like a #1.
it’s still hype

The prevailing thought does seem to be there was better available value in the draft. Not necessarily a bang on MHJ but the wrong decision by whoever made the decision to draft MHJ at the #4 pick.
 

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Based on his profile/pedigree, the expectations were that he'd be more NFL ready, better at 50-50 balls, and perform more like a #1.
This is my biggest disappointment with him. We thought he'd be DeAndre Hopkins on 50/50 balls, but instead he was more like Telma Hopkins.
 

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I think this MHJ bashing is a joke TBH.
He ranked as the 10th best rookie by cbs and 11th best rookie by pff - yet people are disappointed because two other rookie WR did better.

The fact that two other rookies produced more had no impact on MHJ's development.

Nabers was the #1 weapon on his team, Thomas was the #1 weapon on his team. MHJ was the #3 weapon on his team.

He outperformed basicly all elite WRs as a rookie.

Chill! Relax! Nothing indicates that he will not be an elite WR
why do people keep saying 2 rookie WR did better than him? McConkey blew him away also.

The fact that we yet again took the first WR off the board only to see him be the 4th best in his rookie class mirrors the same issue we saw with Paris last year, when he was the first OT taken off the board yet 3rd or 4th best in his own class.

Which is actually more of a Monti issue - you can't keep hitting doubles at home-run positioning, especially when we see the home-runs hit in the draft in those positions AFTER we drafted.

WRs come in and make splashes all the time now in the league and so comparatively speaking to the modern NFL (stop using 20 years ago as barometers, the league is different). Marv was okay. I expect him to get better, but to say he was "good" this year is stretching truth, IMO.
 

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